Brian Rice begs for cash as he faces jail in Qatar over £65,000 betting debt

[YehButNoBut]

Oh dear, not looking good for Brian Rice

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/sc...n-rice-2046228

A FALLEN football star ruined by a betting addiction is facing jail in Qatar over a £65,000 gambling debt.

And desperate Brian Rice is begging his friends in the game for money to save him.

He’s sent heart-wrenching letters to football pals including St Mirren boss Danny Lennon and Kilmarnock assistant Sandy Clark, pleading with them to help him get out of the Gulf state.

Brian says he won’t be allowed to leave until the debt is paid, and has been told he’ll be jailed if he doesn’t find the money in the next week.

[Beefster]

What a mess - probably one of the worse countries to get into debt, I'd imagine. The perils of getting addicted to gambling.

[Hibercelona]

Shame for the man. Gambling is right up there with other serious addictions. Hopefully he'll get the rest some how and then he can get back home and start his road to recovery.

[basehibby]

Not without pity for the guy but would not blame his mates for keeping their hands in their pockets in the circumstances as it's money they'd probably never see again. I wonder how long the jail sentance would be?

[LeighLoyal]

Sad state to get in, but at least he can star in a future banged up abroad episode.

[Hibercelona]

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Not without pity for the guy but would not blame his mates for keeping their hands in their pockets in the circumstances as it's money they'd probably never see again. I wonder how long the jail sentance would be?

Over there, you don't get out until the debt is paid off.

So he'll be stuck there until he comes up with the other 25k.

[Scouse Hibee]

Interesting to see what sympathy he gets on here in relation to the Gascoigne thread!

[joe breezy]

I hope they get him back and make sure he gets help in beating it - gambling is a crap drug that addicts will try and justify to themselves through the false hope it might make them rich

[Hibercelona]

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I hope they get him back and make sure he gets help in beating it - gambling is a crap drug that addicts will try and justify to themselves through the false hope it might make them rich

For most gamblers, its the feeling rather than the money. Most gambling addicts know that when they occasionally do win money, they're just going to gamble their winnings away again, because they're trying to chase that same buzz.

[LeighLoyal]

I remember Archie McPherson once described him when commentating on a Hibs game as 'the very intelligent Brian Rice'

[Craig_in_Prague]

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For most gamblers, its the feeling rather than the money. Most gambling addicts know that when they occasionally do win money, they're just going to gamble their winnings away again, because they're trying to chase that same buzz.

yes, no win is ever big enough.

[CRAZYHIBBY]

He could raise some cash by betting how many lashes he'll recieve

[Peevemor]

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I remember Archie McPherson once described him when commentating on a Hibs game as 'the very intelligent Brian Rice'

The biggest gambler I knew (unfortunately he died young) was also one of the brightest guys I knew. He was a Scottish junior chess champion and, ironically, a very successful financial adviser. However he bet on everything. It became unbearable watching matches in the pub with him as he always had a spread on the number of corners, number of throw-ins, etc. He also had other addictions (fags, "recreational" drugs ...) and I guess he was one of these people who are prone to addicitions - I believe it can be genetic.

All I want to say is that addicition shouldn't be confused with stupidity.

[LeighLoyal]

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The biggest gambler I knew (unfortunately he died young) was also one of the brightest guys I knew. He was a Scottish junior chess champion and, ironically, a very successful financial adviser. However he bet on everything. It became unbearable watching matches in the pub with him as he always had a spread on the number of corners, number of throw-ins, etc. He also had other addictions (fags, "recreational" drugs ...) and I guess he was one of these people who are prone to addicitions - I believe it can be genetic.

All I want to say is that addicition shouldn't be confused with stupidity.

They come from all walks of life of course. But would your pal, or any degenrate gambler, with half a brain get his balls in a sling in Sharia s-hole like Qatar though? You're risking more than just money as Rice now knows.

[Hibercelona]

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They come from all walks of life of course. But would your pal, or any degenrate gambler, with half a brain get his balls in a sling in Sharia s-hole like Qatar though? You're risking more than just money as Rice now knows.

An addiction is something that you do repetitively regardless of the consequences.

It's not about not being aware of the consequences.

[basehibby]

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Over there, you don't get out until the debt is paid off.

So he'll be stuck there until he comes up with the other 25k.

Oh - right! - that puts a bit of a different spin on it. Time for a whip round?

[joe breezy]

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They come from all walks of life of course. But would your pal, or any degenrate gambler, with half a brain get his balls in a sling in Sharia s-hole like Qatar though? You're risking more than just money as Rice now knows.

'Degenerate'?

95% of human behaviour is based on habit and our subconscious. It's not rational.
Gambling starts as rational. I'll have a shot and see if I win. soon it becomes an exciting rollercoaster of emotion that you can't get off.
games like roulette and slot machines are highly addictive, the rational side of him would be saying one more spin and i might win the money back, then he'd win some back and he would think maybe another shot and I'll be up, then he'd lose big again.
You can lose a fortune really quickly on online

I've done most things in life without a problem but i've betted compulsively a few times and afterwards thought what the F*** was that about - now i just avoid those machines and online betting but it takes hard work sometimes. If you're a bit drunk and on your own passing a bookie it's very easy to get caught up in it.

It's easy to be self righteous about it but it's the most addictive thing I've encountered.

[Treadstone]

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They come from all walks of life of course. But would your pal, or any degenrate gambler, with half a brain get his balls in a sling in Sharia s-hole like Qatar though? You're risking more than just money as Rice now knows.

What's Qatar like ?

[Magnifique]

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Oh dear, not looking good for Brian Rice

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/sc...n-rice-2046228

A FALLEN football star ruined by a betting addiction is facing jail in Qatar over a £65,000 gambling debt.

And desperate Brian Rice is begging his friends in the game for money to save him.

He’s sent heart-wrenching letters to football pals including St Mirren boss Danny Lennon and Kilmarnock assistant Sandy Clark, pleading with them to help him get out of the Gulf state.

Brian says he won’t be allowed to leave until the debt is paid, and has been told he’ll be jailed if he doesn’t find the money in the next week.

Brian is a decent bloke remember him from out west when I unfortunately stayed there as a kid and he got me some bits n pieces and I had a shirt of his for a long time, hope he gets out of there soon

Obviously I expect our First Minister will be having a wee word in the ear of the Qatari big wigs to help his pligh

[rcarter1]

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'Degenerate'?

95% of human behaviour is based on habit and our subconscious. It's not rational.
Gambling starts as rational. I'll have a shot and see if I win. soon it becomes an exciting rollercoaster of emotion that you can't get off.
games like roulette and slot machines are highly addictive, the rational side of him would be saying one more spin and i might win the money back, then he'd win some back and he would think maybe another shot and I'll be up, then he'd lose big again.
You can lose a fortune really quickly on online

I've done most things in life without a problem but i've betted compulsively a few times and afterwards thought what the F*** was that about - now i just avoid those machines and online betting but it takes hard work sometimes. If you're a bit drunk and on your own passing a bookie it's very easy to get caught up in it.

It's easy to be self righteous about it but it's the most addictive thing I've encountered.

I agree. It is just another trap for people to fall into (how many ex 'rich' footballers get stung by this?).. Hope he sorts it.

I suspect the Yams are undergoing withdrawal at this moment - while holding out for the mega bucks owner that'll give em another hit.

'Ken likes, I need another 5-1 likes, another 5-1, .. no man, 2-0 winnae dae it, Im talkin 5 -1'

[Pretty Boy]

Whilst actions have consequences etc etc it really does beggar belief that the World Cup is to be held in a country with such a poor human rights record and where potential life imprisonment is seen as suitable punishment for getting into debt.

[joe breezy]

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I agree. It is just another trap for people to fall into (how many ex 'rich' footballers get stung by this?).. Hope he sorts it.

I suspect the Yams are undergoing withdrawal at this moment - while holding out for the mega bucks owner that'll give em another hit.

'Ken likes, I need another 5-1 likes, another 5-1, .. no man, 2-0 winnae dae it, Im talkin 5 -1'

We probably just see the tip of the iceberg with footballers.

Young guys with cash and plenty spare time on their hands...

[Sanger]

Very sad. His intelligent play play kept us up. But intelligence does not stop you gambling.

[Lester B]

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They come from all walks of life of course. But would your pal, or any degenrate gambler, with half a brain get his balls in a sling in Sharia s-hole like Qatar though? You're risking more than just money as Rice now knows.

From wikipedia:

Sharia is the main source of legislation. Codified family law was introduced in 2006. Sharia courts were abolished in 2003 but Sharia principles are still applied in matters related to personal status (such as marriage, divorce and child custody). In some cases a woman’s testimony is worth half a man’s and in some cases a female witness is not accepted at all.[78] Article 1 of the Law No. 11 Of 2004 (Penal Code) allows for the application of "sharia provisions" for the crimes of theft, adultery, defamation, drinking alcohol and apostasy if either the suspect or the victim is a Muslim.

That isn't how you spell degenerate either. Have you ever been to Qatar? And is your mention of 'half a brain' something you aspire to?

[CropleyWasGod]

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It's easy to be self righteous about it but it's the most addictive thing I've encountered.

For me, it's the most insidious of the addictions and vices. Unlike most of the others, it has no physical manifestation, which makes it so much more difficult for other people to spot or intervene in.

[Lester B]

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For me, it's the most insidious of the addictions and vices. Unlike most of the others, it has no physical manifestation, which makes it so much more difficult for other people to spot or intervene in.

Good point well made sir!

[LeighLoyal]

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From wikipedia:

Sharia is the main source of legislation. Codified family law was introduced in 2006. Sharia courts were abolished in 2003 but Sharia principles are still applied in matters related to personal status (such as marriage, divorce and child custody). In some cases a woman’s testimony is worth half a man’s and in some cases a female witness is not accepted at all.[78] Article 1 of the Law No. 11 Of 2004 (Penal Code) allows for the application of "sharia provisions" for the crimes of theft, adultery, defamation, drinking alcohol and apostasy if either the suspect or the victim is a Muslim.

That isn't how you spell degenerate either. Have you ever been to Qatar? And is your mention of 'half a brain' something you aspire to?

And your giddy aspirations are what exactly, Mr spell-check Nazi? A halal ready meal after 12am tonight? :giruy: They recently jailed a foreign language teacher for 'insulting' Islam. If that's your idea of a good place maybe you should aspire to a one way ticket.

[CropleyWasGod]

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And your giddy aspirations are what exactly, Mr spell-check Nazi? A halal ready meal after 12am tonight? :giruy: They recently jailed a foreign language teacher for 'insulting' Islam. If that's your idea of a good place maybe you should aspire to a one way ticket.

... and released him without charge.

[Dashing Bob S]

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Oh dear, not looking good for Brian Rice

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/sc...n-rice-2046228

A FALLEN football star ruined by a betting addiction is facing jail in Qatar over a £65,000 gambling debt.

And desperate Brian Rice is begging his friends in the game for money to save him.

He’s sent heart-wrenching letters to football pals including St Mirren boss Danny Lennon and Kilmarnock assistant Sandy Clark, pleading with them to help him get out of the Gulf state.

Brian says he won’t be allowed to leave until the debt is paid, and has been told he’ll be jailed if he doesn’t find the money in the next week.

Not to make light of a disturbing situation a Hibs hero finds himself in, but wouldn't it be great if Sandy Clark stepped forward with 25 big ones? "I was keeping this back for my old club, Hearts, to help them through their extreme financial difficulties, but when I found out my old mate Ricey was heading for the chokie in Qatar..."

[Lester B]

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And your giddy aspirations are what exactly, Mr spell-check Nazi? A halal ready meal after 12am tonight? :giruy: They recently jailed a foreign language teacher for 'insulting' Islam. If that's your idea of a good place maybe you should aspire to a one way ticket.

Oh I think only one of us is a Nazi son. It isn't me.

Totally scoobied is no way to go through life.

My giddy aspirations are intelligence and tolerance. Sorry.

Oh and about 18 months ago I took my stepdaughter's son to a Hibs game. His dad is an Asian Muslim. You have a problem with that little man? Would you rather I bought him a 'one-way ticket' somewhere? Would you? Where to?

I would debate this further but I fear getting a level of understanding would be like trying to teach a goldfish to tap dance.