Should we drop McPake?

**spike220** · 10-05-2013 01:28 AM

Should we drop McPake?
I think we need to find a new back 4 for the SC final. With time running out I think McPake is out of form and we need to have a rethink.

Is it time to drop McPake and give the youngsters a run?

Who should be a back 4 in the final?

**MWHIBBIES** · 10-05-2013 01:44 AM

Originally Posted by spike220

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Should we drop McPake?
I think we need to find a new back 4 for the SC final. With time running out I think McPake is out of form and we need to have a rethink.

Is it time to drop McPake and give the youngsters a run?

Who should be a back 4 in the final?

Giving a center back his debut in the Scottish cup final is probably the most risky thing possible. McPakes performance against Celtic at home only has to be remembered for it to be obvious that he is the right choice.

Clancy McPake Hanlon McGivern

**~~Hibercelona~~** · 10-05-2013 01:48 AM

It's a difficult one.

Personally I feel he should have been dropped ages ago to allow another CB to get settled in.

On the one hand, we can play McPake and risk him not being anywhere near match fit, on the other hand, we could put somebody else in there who may just not be prepared for such a big game.

It'll be interesting to see if Pat will be willing to change things over the last few league games to give somebody else some game time.

**PerfectlyFranck** · 10-05-2013 02:02 AM

We've seen Daly make the transformation effectively for Dundee United, so...

Ladies & Gentlemen, I bring you...

Shefki Kuqi

Centre-back, Sweeper and 'he was probably brought into help the youngsters' -er

Has anyone noticed how people just laughed when he played rather than yell the more familiar abuse.
I really wanted him to prove me wrong as he seems like an excellent chap in-person.

Like Kujabi, we seem to have accepted that they were hanging about until their contracts expire but I was desperate for them to prove us wrong more than most duds. i.e. Done.

***lord bunberry*** · 10-05-2013 03:24 AM

We need to stick with clancy, mcpake, hanlon and mcgivern and hope they can get back to doing what they were doing earlier in the season. At this stage of the season it's probably to late to be trying out new combinations

**Beefster** · 10-05-2013 05:51 AM

Never mind dropping him, I think we should try to not destroy the confidence of our captain and guaranteed cup final starter any more. Might be a good idea before he leads the team out in the cup final.

***lucky*** · 10-05-2013 05:59 AM

I'd play Stevenson and Marbury as the full back. Clancy has been awful since returning from injury and Mcgirven makes to many mistakes

***lord bunberry*** · 10-05-2013 06:03 AM

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I'd play Stevenson and Marbury as the full back. Clancy has been awful since returning from injury and Mcgirven makes to many mistakes

If mcgivern is fit he will play ahead of stevenson and clancy is a far better player than maybury imo.

**marinello59** · 10-05-2013 06:07 AM

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Never mind dropping him, I think we should try to not destroy the confidence of our captain and guaranteed cup final starter any more. Might be a good idea before he leads the team out in the cup final.

Well said.

**Holmesdale Hibs** · 10-05-2013 06:11 AM

I'd consider resting him and others vs the ****bos but wouldn't drop him.

Clancy, McPake, Hanlon, McGirvin

**LioNeilMessi** · 10-05-2013 08:15 AM

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I'd consider resting him and others vs the ****bos but wouldn't drop him.

Clancy, McPake, Hanlon, McGirvin

You would think (on paper) that would be one of the most solid back 4s in the league, especially with Williams behind them

I wouldn't drop McPake but he seriously needs a good game soon.

***Stevie Reid*** · 10-05-2013 08:43 AM

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We've seen Daly make the transformation effectively for Dundee United, so...

Ladies & Gentlemen, I bring you...

Shefki Kuqi

Centre-back, Sweeper and 'he was probably brought into help the youngsters' -er

Has anyone noticed how people just laughed when he played rather than yell the more familiar abuse.
I really wanted him to prove me wrong as he seems like an excellent chap in-person.

Like Kujabi, we seem to have accepted that they were hanging about until their contracts expire but I was desperate for them to prove us wrong more than most duds. i.e. Done.

I'm not one for getting all hot and bothered when other teams sign players but if another SPL team had signing Kuqi I would have been genuinely disappointed that we hadn't picked up someone of his pedigree. I was chuffed when we signed him but it hasn't worked out.

***Scouse Hibee*** · 10-05-2013 08:49 AM

Originally Posted by spike220

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Should we drop McPake?
I think we need to find a new back 4 for the SC final. With time running out I think McPake is out of form and we need to have a rethink.

Is it time to drop McPake and give the youngsters a run?

Who should be a back 4 in the final?

I think we've passed the time when we can find a new back four for the cup final! I would much rather we protect what we have by resting players and get behind what is probably our strongest back four of McGivern, McPake, Hanlon and Clancy if all fit.

**hibs4thecup1988** · 10-05-2013 08:53 AM

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I'd play Stevenson and Marbury as the full back. Clancy has been awful since returning from injury and Mcgirven makes to many mistakes

Agreeed.

***JimBHibees*** · 10-05-2013 08:59 AM

Originally Posted by Beefster

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Never mind dropping him, I think we should try to not destroy the confidence of our captain and guaranteed cup final starter any more. Might be a good idea before he leads the team out in the cup final.

Spot on thought he does need to up his game IMO.

Personally dont see any changes to Clancy JMCP Hanlon and McGivern injuries aside.

**NOLA** · 10-05-2013 09:15 AM

If we drop him he might lose his match sharpness...

**--------** · 10-05-2013 09:18 AM

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I'd play Stevenson and Marbury as the full back. Clancy has been awful since returning from injury and Mcgirven makes to many mistakes

Originally Posted by Mikey_S

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I'd consider resting him and others vs the ****bos but wouldn't drop him.

Clancy, McPake, Hanlon, McGirvin

I don't know who Marbury and Mcgirven (McGirvin? Same guy or have we signed THREE new defenders?) but if we can get away with fielding Stevenson and Marbury (whoever he is) as one player, that would be really good.

I just hope Pot Flennon can spell the names of his players better than some of the fans, or we'll surely be done for fielding an unregistered team at Hampden ...

I understand that Jake is playing with an injury. MAYBE it would be sense to rest him for the final, except of course we do have a derby coming up (SUNDAY, in case we hadn't noticed), and it's kinda important that we don't lose our last three matches before the Final (I would say).

The main problem I see isn't in terms of personnel (do we really have anyone better?) but rather that we're back in our old bad habit of the back four dropping back to defend too deep.

***hibee_girl*** · 10-05-2013 09:25 AM

It needed doing weeks ago, it's too late now to bring someone else in. Think we all just need to accept he'll be in the team and hope he can pull some good performances out the bag!

***Brightside*** · 10-05-2013 09:28 AM

maybury, hanlon, mcgivern, stevenson. Play mcPake upfront!

**Beefster** · 10-05-2013 10:10 AM

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It needed doing weeks ago, it's too late now to bring someone else in. Think we all just need to accept he'll be in the team and hope he can pull some good performances out the bag!

That's the spirit.

***Stevie Reid*** · 10-05-2013 10:19 AM

I've been critical of McPake on here recently, but he hasn't been bad for a long time, he's just been a jaded character not performing at the level we expect - however, what is most concerning is that what was a plateau of average performances has become a gradual dip in form, which has really hit a low in the last couple of games. The timing couldn't be worse.

However, he is our captain and has walked the walk as well as talking the talk in the past - Sunday is a big day for him, given his recent form and what he has said re: Hearts in the past.

***silverhibee*** · 10-05-2013 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by spike220

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Should we drop McPake?
I think we need to find a new back 4 for the SC final. With time running out I think McPake is out of form and we need to have a rethink.

Is it time to drop McPake and give the youngsters a run?

Who should be a back 4 in the final?

No

We have to stick with him now.

**Green Fish** · 10-05-2013 12:34 PM

Our CAPTAIN will come good and do us proud. Let's get behind him and the team. I'm more worried about injuries to our players on Sunday.

**jdships** · 10-05-2013 12:40 PM

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It needed doing weeks ago, it's too late now to bring someone else in. Think we all just need to accept he'll be in the team and hope he can pull some good performances out the bag!

That's it for me in the short term anyway !
However I would expect to see anew CB in place before the new season begins .
For me McPake has ' flattered to deceive ' - have never felt confident about him from the first game I saw him play

**~~Judas Iscariot~~** · 10-05-2013 12:43 PM

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Our CAPTAIN will come good and do us proud. Let's get behind him and the team. I'm more worried about injuries to our players on Sunday.

Best post of the thread

**Beefster** · 10-05-2013 01:21 PM

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That's it for me in the short term anyway !
However I would expect to see anew CB in place before the new season begins .
For me McPake has ' flattered to deceive ' - have never felt confident about him from the first game I saw him play

If you're expecting McPake to be replaced next season, you're going to be disappointed.

**yekimevol** · 10-05-2013 06:45 PM

I don't think the first choice defense is the problem i.e. Clancy Mcpake Hanlon Mcgivern

The squad cant keep possession for longer than five seconds. This puts our back four under so much pressure and of course it is going to look worse than it is, conceding more goals than it should. if the other team have one chance on goal they can only score one goal, if they have ten chances they can score ten goals. Think i seen a possession table of the SPL the other day in which we were 11th. That is the true cause of the problem, to quote the old cliche "If we have the ball they can't score" .

**West hamBERNIAN** · 10-05-2013 07:29 PM

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Giving a center back his debut in the Scottish cup final is probably the most risky thing possible. McPakes performance against Celtic at home only has to be remembered for it to be obvious that he is the right choice.

Clancy McPake Hanlon McGivern

Dont know what it is but he always seems to perform in big games. Draw at Celtic he was faultless win against Celtic assured. Hearts gAmes he always seems to cope fine. I bet he plays awesome against the sevco max and rank against killie.

**West hamBERNIAN** · 10-05-2013 07:33 PM

Yet I never seen a bad word against him last season. All of a sudden James is **** and I new it straight away. Nae bother pal.

**West hamBERNIAN** · 10-05-2013 07:35 PM

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Yet I never seen a bad word against him last season. All of a sudden James is **** and I new it straight away. Nae bother pal.

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That's it for me in the short term anyway !
However I would expect to see anew CB in place before the new season begins .
For me McPake has ' flattered to deceive ' - have never felt confident about him from the first game I saw him play

Should have added quote maybe

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