Charlie Green - the racist

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Charles Green has been branded a racist by SRTRC.

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-...-west-22064369

Charlie, you're a racist **** and This gives us another reason not to like you

[NOLA]

he should go back to his own country the clown

[yeezus.]

He is at the right club then

[hibee_nation]

He always said he was the type of man to call a spade a spade.

[hibee_nation]

Mind you their fans did used to sing " Oh i'd rather be a P*^i than a Tim"

[Cabbage East]

Someone linked to The Sun story and he called the guy a paki, they totally glossed over it. They're perfectly matched.

[The_Todd]

He's a proper Rangers man.

[Hibs Class]

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[Bostonhibby]

What? Cheeky Charlie a racist? Cannae see it myself, there's surely nae money to be scammed from racism?

Odious wee man, ideally placed where he is.

[lyonhibs]

My Mum said that she though the local Chinky was very good and reasonably priced. Should she be expecting a knock at the door?

Has anyone actually asked the man whom Mr Green called a Paki if he himself is offended, or is this a lot of (I imagine) predominantly white people getting hot under the collar about a word that - in the context - wasn't used in a racist fashion?

Just playing Devil's Advocate likesay

[Phil D. Rolls]

I wonder if anyone has a picture of other racists linked to clubs associated with dodgy financial dealings?

[Bostonhibby]

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My Mum said that she though the local Chinky was very good and reasonably priced. Should she be expecting a knock at the door?

Has anyone actually asked the man whom Mr Green called a Paki if he himself is offended, or is this a lot of (I imagine) predominantly white people getting hot under the collar about a word that - in the context - wasn't used in a racist fashion?

Just playing Devil's Advocate likesay

Does that make you a satanist?

[Hibeesforever]

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My Mum said that she though the local Chinky was very good and reasonably priced. Should she be expecting a knock at the door?

Has anyone actually asked the man whom Mr Green called a Paki if he himself is offended, or is this a lot of (I imagine) predominantly white people getting hot under the collar about a word that - in the context - wasn't used in a racist fashion?

Just playing Devil's Advocate likesay

You shouldn't because the country is trying to move on and improve itself. The lady on Radio Scotland, for example, gave a very sensible summation as to why chat like this is really just bullying and not appropriate from a football club spokesman. You can play Devil's Advocate all you want but fortunately there are still enough good men who will counter the, its okay, viewpoint and say something to keep guys like you and Mr Green in their place. I would like to think that there are fans of The Rangers that would do the same; recent history would suggest they have a long way to go but getting rid of Chick Green would be a start.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

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My Mum said that she though the local Chinky was very good and reasonably priced. Should she be expecting a knock at the door?

Has anyone actually asked the man whom Mr Green called a Paki if he himself is offended, or is this a lot of (I imagine) predominantly white people getting hot under the collar about a word that - in the context - wasn't used in a racist fashion?

Just playing Devil's Advocate likesay

Indeed, I believe its all about the context in these situations, obviously "Paki B" would have different connotations.

[RIP]

Just out of interest has anyone got a Pakistani mate who objects to being called a Paki? I was born in Scotland. Some people call me a Scot

[Phil D. Rolls]

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Indeed, I believe its all about the context in these situations, obviously "Paki B" would have different connotations.

It's up to his friend t o decide if its racist.

[500miles]

"Paki" is a term that has been used to slur people of many cultures, united by a certain skin colour. I have heard it used against light skinned Africans, Indians, Iranians, etc.

It's connotations are racist, and openly known to be such. Pretending otherwise is foolish, and whatever in-jokes you and your friends may have, you have to be pretty stupid to go throwing it about publicly.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

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It's up to his friend t o decide if its racist.

That seems fair enough.

[HibeeN]

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It's up to his friend t o decide if its racist.

I disagree, the poster below sums up the reason why:

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"Paki" is a term that has been used to slur people of many cultures, united by a certain skin colour. I have heard it used against light skinned Africans, Indians, Iranians, etc.

It's connotations are racist, and openly known to be such. Pretending otherwise is foolish, and whatever in-jokes you and your friends may have, you have to be pretty stupid to go throwing it about publicly.

Just because a friend might not find it offensive doesn't mean the term itself isn't racist - it still has the same connotations. More to the point, Green didn't just say it to his friend. He said it to a national newspaper. If it was just between him and his friend an his friend didn't care then there wouldn't be a problem, but as a public figure speaking in a national newspaper, it gives the impression that this type of language is acceptable when it's not.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Mr Green said that he "deplores" racism and sectarianism, while accusing the organisation of a "knee-jerk reaction".



laugh ? i nearly ******* cried anyone involved at bigotbrox is sectarian by default

[truehibernian]

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It's up to his friend t o decide if its racist.

Not under current legislation FR - anyone, including the 'victim', can make a complaint against Green should they wish to - if they find it offensive in nature and racially aggravated. In other words, if you are in the queue at Tesco and you hear Mr X call Mr Y what Mr Green said - you can make a complaint to the police - it doesn't have to come from the person the insult was directed at (Mr Y).

Green could technically still be charged and reported for his comments if someone were to make a complaint (finding his alleged comments offensive - which they most certainly are by the way).

[Beefster]

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Just out of interest has anyone got a Pakistani mate who objects to being called a Paki? I was born in Scotland. Some people call me a Scot

This argument is often put forward. Scot, in general, isn't (or hasn't in the past) used as a derogatory term for all white people.

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

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Mr Green said that he "deplores" racism and sectarianism, while accusing the organisation of a "knee-jerk reaction".



laugh ? i nearly ******* cried anyone involved at bigotbrox is sectarian by default

Think that you will find that what comes from the terracing at Hunbrox isn't sectarian. It is an expression of their background and history and is their democratic right to say it. That always made me feel better when getting a bleaching in the early 80's.

[hibsbollah]

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It's up to his friend t o decide if its racist.

Nonsense. Anyone can (and should IMO) be offended by racism or racist language, regardless of who its aimed at. And that is also the legal position.

[truehibernian]

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Nonsense. Anyone can (and should IMO) be offended by racism or racist language, regardless of who its aimed at. And that is also the legal position.

Thing is bollah, lets see just how strong the now Police Service of Scotland are in taking Green to task - Leigh was reported for similar so I'd hope they take the same amount of interest through West

One day we will move out of the Mind Your Language mindset mate, one day

[Elephant Stone]

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I was born in Scotland. Some people call me a Scot

You for real?

[Dashing Bob S]

Linguistically, 'Paki' or 'Chinky' should be not more racist terms than 'Scot', all are abbreviations of somebodies supposed country of origin. However, the term was used in a derisory, condescending way when we had the first influx of New Commonwealth immigration in the fifties and sixties, and it has continued to be. Green's comments are very much in this mold.

[Baldy Foghorn]

Greene is an odious man.......

Interestingly he says that if anyone else said what he did within Ipox, they would be under an internal investigation......He really is a dangerously stupid man......

[Paisley Hibby]

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Just out of interest has anyone got a Pakistani mate who objects to being called a Paki? I was born in Scotland. Some people call me a Scot

Do you think you're still living in the 1970s mate? That was considered a good wisecrack back then. You might want to update your patter a wee bit.

Oh, and just so you know in future, most of the folk in Scotland who get called that were born in Scotland. What's more, their ancestors mostly came here from The Punjab (that's in India by the way) or Bangladesh (also not Pakistan).

[Vini1875]

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Linguistically, 'Paki' or 'Chinky' should be not more racist terms than 'Scot', all are abbreviations of somebodies supposed country of origin. However, the term was used in a derisory, condescending way when we had the first influx of New Commonwealth immigration in the fifties and sixties, and it has continued to be. Green's comments are very much in this mold.

I don't think Scot would be the equivalent expression, it might be more like a Jock or even a sweaty as in sweaty sock. Not exactly racist, but a put down all the same.