Is that he isn't stubborn and prideful like previous managers when it comes to realising that his own signings haven't worked out. It just got me thinking after reading the Doyle to Chesterfield thread, that we have a number of players that Pat himself signed but because they haven't performed after being given the chance, they've been frozen out and will be moving on.
Previous managers have not done this like Fenlon has, they've shown more pride in that they don't want to look silly and admitting they've made a signing that isn't the best., and continued to persist and persist with them in the hope that they'll improve.
It looks like Doyle, Kuqi and Kujabi will all be off at the end of the season. Coupled with Pat moving on Galbraith and I'm sure others to follow, it truly does show that Pat is eagerly trying to move us in the right direction. Yes it could be said that he might not have the best eye for a player, but he still has delivered us a few good ones in the likes of Cairney, Clancy, Thomson etc.
I think we're going to see alot of players off our wage bill come the end of the season, and this coupled with a Cup final (hopefully) will give us some cash to play with in the summer for new players.
That's my two cents anyways...
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03-04-2013 06:34 PM #1
One thing that really impresses me about Fenlon
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03-04-2013 06:40 PM #2
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don't think you can count Thompson in the sense he knocked on our door and is playing for nothing.
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03-04-2013 06:43 PM #3
I think Fenlon has an good eye for a player certainly with the £restrictions hes been working under hes brought in better than his predecessors. The problem is he now needs a new type of player; the creative midfielder. Bring in a Zemmama who isnt injury prone and he'll get a 9/10 for his dealings instead of 7/10.
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03-04-2013 06:54 PM #4This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Not a bad point though, Doyle, Kuqi, Kujabi away, hopefully Deegan next!!
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03-04-2013 08:10 PM #5
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There's an argument that we already have him in Paul Cairney, but he is yet to be utilised in the middle of the park. He's deffo not a winger.
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03-04-2013 08:24 PM #6
There's 12, iirc, players that could be leaving in the summer, so it does PF plenty to work with.
Loans ending:
Done
Griffiths
Claros
McGivern
Players out of contract:
Wotherspoon
Deegan
Doyle
Murdoch
Thomson
Kuqi
Kujabi
Scott
Out of that lot, if we could keep Griffiths, McGivern & Thomson, then bring in others id be delighted.
Id keep Claros but he's way out of our price range.
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03-04-2013 08:34 PM #7
Agree that Fenlon is showing no favouritism, and just needs a couple good signings (and hopefully Griffiths to stay) in the right areas to make a difference. Liam Craig is a start, and we could be looking at a tidy wee team next season.:pfgwa
After Celtic and the cup apart, hope to see some more youngsters with game time.
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03-04-2013 10:25 PM #12
When you are operating on a small budget you are almost bound to make a number of weaker signings. Many were probably not his first choice. If he can't spot a lack of talent before he signs them, then being able to clear them out quickly is at least something in his favour.
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03-04-2013 11:21 PM #14
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I wouldn't say Doherty was bad either, but as a person he was ****.
Without Deegan we wouldn't be in a cup semi final.
Kuqi kujabi done and o'donavon were poor but I bet none were the first choice.
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04-04-2013 07:44 AM #17
I agree, harsh to say any of Doyle, Deegan, maybury or doherty have been bad signings. They have all done a job for us and are/ will be moved on as hopefully a gradual improvement of squad!!
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04-04-2013 10:15 AM #19
I have seen enough to give me hope that he can improve us further next season and have us in the top 5 and pushing for 2nd.
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04-04-2013 10:19 AM #20This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Seeing as I can't even imagine who will be in our starting eleven next season, I think that's a pretty bold prediction.
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04-04-2013 10:28 AM #22This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote"There's class, there's first class and there's Hibs class" - Eddie Turnbull
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04-04-2013 10:43 AM #23This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
You know what I meant!
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04-04-2013 11:03 AM #24
There's a lot I like about Fenlon as a manager, and his selection policy is one of them. When Taiwo came in for Deegan and did well, Deegan didn't get a game for quite a while. There doesn't seem to be any favoritism and he tends to play the players who have played well beforehand, or played in a winning team. Another positive change from some previous managers, who seemed to play the same players over again whether it was working or not.
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But it is hope and not a prediction. Many supporters expected us to do what I hope will happen next season in this one, which I think was unreasonable (though not impossible) given the state we were in last summer - however, given that we have a more solid base this year and have better resources than most other SPL clubs (possibly a large number of STs again if we play Celtic in the SC Final), and my belief that Pat has a good eye for a player, I am hopeful that we can improve significantly again next year.
Next season our first eleven will have Williams, Clancy, Hanlon, McPake, Robertson and Craig in it, which is a pretty solid spine - I would also expect Harris to be in there, and we will have Taiwo, Cairney, Stevenson in the squad. There is still a huge job to be done but that was always going to be the case and all of our issues couldn't possibly be resolved in this short a time scale, and I believe that we have much more to build on than we did last summer.
Last year we only staved off relegation in our 37th game - this year we look like we will miss out on a top 6 place in the last game before the split. Although the last few months have been disappointing in the league (and we've gone backwards from a few months ago in the SPL), we have made progress, though that progress has been a lot more modest than I thought/hoped it would be when we were flying high towards the end of last year.
I think the board are determined to give Fenlon a good amount of time to build us up again, though many things will have to improve significantly (appealing football on a much more regular basis being hugely important) if the fans are to go along with that. I have hope and I have faith - only time will tell if they will be rewarded. I hesitated before renewing on the initial PP deadline day last season - I didn't wait about this year, and I'm looking forward to seeing Hibs next season.Last edited by Stevie Reid; 04-04-2013 at 11:24 AM.
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04-04-2013 03:44 PM #27
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I like Pat and he's used his old links over the water to our advantage.
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After a good start Deegan has fallen away but did score a screamer ( winner) against Aberdeen.
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