- The national team regularly getting humped
- A lack of talented youngsters coming through in enough numbers
- Attendances down
- Fans getting a raw deal
- Less 3pm Saturday kick offs
- Potential cut of TV money next year
- The handling of the Sevco situation which gave Dundee no time to prepare and cost their manager their job
- The idea of this 12-12-18 league setup that nobody wants
It's staggering how quickly the state of our national game has declined.
We need to copy the Swiss way of doing things; a ten team top league with a rule that a certain amount of home grown talent and talent trained by that certain club must be played within each team. Find a way to get fans back through more exciting fitba and 3pm Saturday kick offs and actually grow a pair to say no to TV looking at ridiculous kick off times. Fairer prize money distribution.
Doncaster and Regan must go, and I've never even been that bothered about our national team. For the sake of Hibs improvements must be made in our national game.
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26-03-2013 08:25 PM #1
How can Regan and Doncaster justify their positions anymore?
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26-03-2013 08:54 PM #3
Does anyone actually have the power to sack them, because otherwise it's academic? It's patently obvious they ain't gonna walk
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26-03-2013 09:00 PM #4When Scotland got beaten by Portugal 5-0 the alarm bells rang. There was time but opportunities missed now the rate of decline appears to have increased.
Regan and Flat top probably just got caught when the music stopped and no chairs were left. They've had to oversee the most tumultuous period few if any could have predicted.
Whilst they are the chair/spokespersons they surely merely represent the views and take the hit on behalf of others no? They are like buffers absorbing the flack for the members. Some daft things have been said tho' and that cannot be spun away. I do wonder how much of what has and is still going on ("social unrest", "OF colt teams", 12-12-18) are simply posturing, jockeying for position - a phoney war if you like. Chuckie is in on it too so why not?
I've also heard and believe that chairmen are capable of saying one thing in private and another in front of the cameras/public. Hardly surprising they get the rug pulled from under them if public opinion goes against them. Why still in position? Becauseat this stage few would take it on and there will probably be no change of guard until the new format has settled.
What I would say tho is careful what u wish for - would replacements not be more favourable to the OF? As the financial problems worsten and the biggest show in town yearn to be togevva?"We know the people who have invested so far are simple fans." Vladimir Romanov - Scotsman 10th December 2012
"Romanov was like a breath of fresh air - laced with cyanide." Me.
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26-03-2013 09:33 PM #8
Wasn't the issue of Neil Doncaster and his worth to the SPL raised with Rod Petrie at the AGM? If memory serves, Rod backed him fully. I can't remember his words exactly, but he seemed to think Doncaster was misunderstood and doing a great job. Maybe only said for public consumption of course, but as I presume Rod is one of the people who would have a say in Doncaster's future then he may be pretty safe.
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26-03-2013 09:34 PM #9This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
It's a chicken and egg scenario but the numpties at the top of our game are not the men to lead it, something I think we're all agreed on really.
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Those "numpties at the top of our game" are the clubs, and their chairs. It is they who employ Regan and Doncaster, not the other way round.
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26-03-2013 09:39 PM #12This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
We need a serious, serious change throughout Scottish football. It's not going to happen either.
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26-03-2013 09:44 PM #14This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
After that I have no idea, quite honestly.
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26-03-2013 09:46 PM #15
Until there is a major shake up from top to grass roots we will be a nation who won't be able to compete at a good level. For that reason I have no interest in Scotland. Win or lose 10-0 I don't give a ****. Watching Scotland these days is eye bleeding.
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26-03-2013 09:47 PM #16This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Last edited by CropleyWasGod; 26-03-2013 at 09:50 PM.
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26-03-2013 10:04 PM #17
We've been substandard for fifteen years. At least. None of this is exactly surprising, is it
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16 team top league playing each other home and away - 15 guaranteed home games
16 team second league (if there's enough viable clubs, colts teams from top division clubs to fill out places if not - not just celgers colts though! In fact if theres' interest you could even include colts teams from Ireland/North England)
1 team automatic relegation/promotion, 3-4 teams in play offs (colts teams can't be promoted).
Regional pyramid system below allowing promotion and relegation to second division if certain conditions met.
Revamped league cup with a seeded league element for the first round - 8 groups of 4 teams playing each other home and away. (to make up for the shortfall in league games - everyone now gets 18 home games, plus the second division clubs get two guaranteed games against top flight opponents). Euro qualification for winning it (though see below)
Switch to summer football and market us to SKY as an alternative to bloody cricket and golf. Less competition should mean a better TV deal, plus much less messing about with kick off times. At a minimum all fixture times agreed at the start of a season and no moving them for TV subsequently.
All sponsorship money pooled and distributed via the leagues fairly to all clubs.
All gate monies split between the two teams playing (not necessarily 50/50 though).
Wage Cap - still allow bigger teams to pay bigger wages but not to the extent they do at the moment. Maybe some sort of sliding scale based on average club turnover or average gate. (could even have a system where you get a boost to your wage cap depending on how poorly you did the previous year - ie the team that finishes bottom gets to spend a bit more the next year to level the playing field?) This should all ultimately be aimed at keeping ticket prices down.
Pro clubs must run academies, top flight teams must have minimum number of home grown players (9/10 in match day squad), system in place to compensate smaller teams when their players move on to larger Scottish clubs.
Ditch mainstream European football. Trying to keep up with the English/Spanish/Italian leagues is the reason we're in the state we are. Instead organise a European Summer Cup, competed in by all the leagues playing Summer football (this'll be the hardest part! ) Market this to SKY instead of more bloody cricket and golf. If celtc and sevco leave over this then so be it. Could leave scheduled weeks in the late season for 'glamour' friendlies with English/European clubs warming up for their own winter leagues.
Summer/Euro cup qualifying places for winning both domestic cups and for top league finishers - maybe throw in a wildcard for highest scoring league team or fair play winners or even team voted to have the best fans by the players (or simply team in Edinburgh with the greenest strip?).
Arguably the 'quality' of player will go down but there'll be a much more level playing field so I'd argue the quality/excitement factor of games will go up.
Just off the top of my head, sure there's many holes in itLast edited by barcahibs; 26-03-2013 at 10:47 PM.
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27-03-2013 07:04 AM #20This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Doncaster and Regan are the wrong targets here. Blame their employers, the clubs, who took a collective (and gutless) decision to stop competing properly for the top prize in Scotland. Without ambition and drive to reach the top standards could only go one way.Every gimmick hungry yob,
Digging gold from rock and roll
Grabs the mic to tell us,
He'll die before he's sold.
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27-03-2013 07:52 AM #23
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Im sure they spoke about the swiss model on radio not long back and that it made swiss football worse and that the creater said it wouldnt work in scotland.
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I'm suprised about the easy time these two get to be be honest, yes the decline in Scottish foorball started before they entered their posts however I can't think of anything they have done to improve the game we have. Maybe someone will point out something but on the face of it the apathy and decline in our game is on the increase rather than decrease and thats before we even start thinking about the embarrassment of the Rangers situation and Donkey's pay rise .
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27-03-2013 11:47 AM #25
SFA/SPL dont help but lets face it this needs to get sorted out in the schools.
Kids should get introduced to the full range of sports at an early age by coaches that know what they are doing.
Mark Wotte, the dutch bloke, who is in charge of youth football is making a difference but we are still looking at 10 years to see the results.
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27-03-2013 11:56 AM #26
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While I do think they are a pair of clowns, I think the problem stems from a lack of long term thinking at grass roots level. The coaching has to start from kids level, where they are taught that instant control and maintaining possesion are more important than hoofing it up the park to get some territorial advantage.
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27-03-2013 04:38 PM #30
The impact of TV on Scottish Football was never going to be a quick death. More like a death by a thousand cuts
In 2005/06 There were no lunchtime kickoffs. This season already there have been 8. There have been 9 or 10 DIFFERENT kickoff times
Adjusting kick off times for TV is disrupting family life, messing about the most important people (the supporters) and effectively killing the Scottish Game
Supporters need to unite and wrest power back from the authorities that are destroying Scottish Football
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