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    Leigh Griffiths Wolves contract

    Anyone know how long it is?

    I thought he signed a 2 1/2 yr deal in Jan 2011 yet Dean Saunders is saying “I hope he keeps banging them in because I have told him to come back in pre-season ready to try and get into my team. There’s no release clause. It is window to window.”

    http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/spor...leigh-1730437?

    By my maths he won't be going anywhere near them in pre-season as he is out of contract


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    Quote Originally Posted by Winston Ingram View Post
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    Anyone know how long it is?

    I thought he signed a 2 1/2 yr deal in Jan 2011 yet Dean Saunders is saying “I hope he keeps banging them in because I have told him to come back in pre-season ready to try and get into my team. There’s no release clause. It is window to window.”

    http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/spor...leigh-1730437?

    By my maths he won't be going anywhere near them in pre-season as he is out of contract
    They have a one year option on him - I think they have to offer him increased terms though

    See quote from this mornings Scotsman (and Record) -
    Hibs dealt Griffiths blow
    It has emerged that Hibs striker Griffiths will not be at the club next pre-season. Pat Fenlon had hoped to tie up the club’s top scorer on a permanent deal, but Wolves boss Dean Saunders now wants the striker back in the Black Country for pre-season training.
    Saunders said: “Leigh is scoring for fun at the moment. When I came to the club I’d only seen him in one training session.
    “We said we would monitor him and I hope he keeps banging the goals in because I’ve told him to come back here for pre-season training, ready to try to get a place in my team.” (Daily Record)

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    Hopefully with Leigh being a diehard Hibs fan he would prefer to stay here?
    If you take Griffiths's goals out of the team this season then we could well have been in a relegation fight again.
    In the end, it all comes down to if Leigh wants to play for Wolves or Hibs...

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    Quote Originally Posted by FromTheCapital View Post
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    Hopefully with Leigh being a diehard Hibs fan he would prefer to stay here?
    If you take Griffiths's goals out of the team this season then we could well have been in a relegation fight again.
    In the end, it all comes down to if Leigh wants to play for Wolves or Hibs...
    Not really as he will have a contract at Wolves to stick to.

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    Hopefully with Leigh being a diehard Hibs fan he would prefer to stay here?
    If you take Griffiths's goals out of the team this season then we could well have been in a relegation fight again.
    In the end, it all comes down to if Leigh wants to play for Wolves or Hibs...
    I don't think it's quite as simple as that mate. Wolves have an option of a one year extension, and if they decide to take up that option, then he is a Wolves player for another year - whether he wants to go somewhere else or not.

    Makes you wonder why we did not pay Wolves the £100K they wanted in January

    (edited to say that they would have possibly negotiated down to £75K ??)

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    He is too good for the old 3rd division because that's where they are headed

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    Quote Originally Posted by East Coast Hibe View Post
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    I don't think it's quite as simple as that mate. Wolves have an option of a one year extension, and if they decide to take up that option, then he is a Wolves player for another year - whether he wants to go somewhere else or not.

    Makes you wonder why we did not pay Wolves the £100K they wanted in January

    (edited to say that they would have possibly negotiated down to £75K ??)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy74 View Post
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    Not really as he will have a contract at Wolves to stick to.
    I thought it ran out at the end of the season?

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    Quote Originally Posted by East Coast Hibe View Post
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    I don't think it's quite as simple as that mate. Wolves have an option of a one year extension, and if they decide to take up that option, then he is a Wolves player for another year - whether he wants to go somewhere else or not.

    Makes you wonder why we did not pay Wolves the £100K they wanted in January

    (edited to say that they would have possibly negotiated down to £75K ??)
    Oh I see... Completely agree that he should have been signed long term in January.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FromTheCapital View Post
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    Hopefully with Leigh being a diehard Hibs fan he would prefer to stay here?
    If you take Griffiths's goals out of the team this season then we could well have been in a relegation fight again.
    In the end, it all comes down to if Leigh wants to play for Wolves or Hibs...
    If you take Griffiths out the team we would have had a different striker on a relatively decent wage.

    This statement is becoming so over-used and it doesn't even mean anything.

    Take away the goals from any teams main striker and they will be in a far worse position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fergy View Post
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    If you take Griffiths out the team we would have had a different striker on a relatively decent wage.

    This statement is becoming so over-used and it doesn't even mean anything.

    Take away the goals from any teams main striker and they will be in a far worse position.
    Name a striker who Hibs could have got on a decent wage that would have scored the goals Griffiths has...

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    Quote Originally Posted by FromTheCapital View Post
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    Oh I see... Completely agree that he should have been signed long term in January.
    That's making the assumption that a deal could have been struck that suited both parties. We still have players on the books that would need to be moved on to free up wages for a deal.

    Who's to say that the statements from Wolves are not just bluffs to get some cash in the summer? It would be a risk for them to increase wages for a player that hasn't kicked a ball for them for a season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FromTheCapital View Post
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    Oh I see... Completely agree that he should have been signed long term in January.
    Considering that Saunders had only just started at Wolves, and had Leigh down at Molineux for a few days during our break, likely for an assessment and to get Leighs views on where his future lay, I'm doubtful that he was on offer to Hibs or anyone else at the time.

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    So is it definite they have a 1 yr option?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FromTheCapital View Post
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    Name a striker who Hibs could have got on a decent wage that would have scored the goals Griffiths has...
    If you read my post properly, I never said we could have. However Billy Mackay and Niall McGinn are in our price range and have both scored about the same amount of goals. I'd still rather have Griffiths.

    Read my post again though, because you've missed my point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FromTheCapital View Post
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    Name a striker who Hibs could have got on a decent wage that would have scored the goals Griffiths has...
    Are you actually claiming that there is no-one out there, that we can afford, who could do the same job Griffiths has done? He's good but he's not van Nistelrooy.

    Barely a few years ago we had a front line of Anthony Stokes and Derek Riordan.

    If Griffiths had left we would have found someone to do a job, he is on a good wage and we could have attracted good strikers with that money. By no means would we be fighting for relegation..


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    Quote Originally Posted by CabbagePatch View Post
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    Are you actually claiming that there is no-one out there, that we can afford, who could do the same job Griffiths has done? He's good but he's not van Nistelrooy.

    Barely a few years ago we had a front line of Anthony Stokes and Derek Riordan.

    If Griffiths had left we would have found someone to do a job, he is on a good wage and we could have attracted good strikers with that money. By no means would we be fighting for relegation..
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    Take away the contribution of any team's main attacker and they'll seem far worse.

    Motherwell with Higdon. ICT with Billy Mackay. Aberdeen with McGinn. Man Utd with RVP. Barca and Real and Messi and Ronaldo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winston Ingram View Post
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    So is it definite they have a 1 yr option?
    His contract ends in the summer, so if they are planning to have him back for pre-season training, the answer to that would have to be 'yes'

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    Pat was ready to make moves in January regards a striker,I can't see how this changes if LG leaves a half decent player will get goals up here and look good !

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    Where do people think we should be hoping Wolves finish this season? Will we have more or less chance of keeping him if they are relegated?

    My feeling is that if they are relegated then surely Griffiths won't want to go back to a club where he has not enjoyed the best of experiences so far and who's fans don't think much of him, to play in League 1. I know he still has a contract but it is only for a year and we have seen countless times how much of a part player power can influence these types of situations.

    However on the flip side, maybe if Wolves do stay in the Championship then they will still feel that Leigh is not up to the job.

    Off course we then have the problem that if Wolves do decide to sell (after taking up the option of a further year) then there will no doubt be other clubs who are willing to pay more.

    Ah **** it, he'll probably be away so let's just enjoy watching him for the remainder of this season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hackett View Post
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    His contract ends in the summer, so if they are planning to have him back for pre-season training, the answer to that would have to be 'yes'
    I get the fact that Dean Saunders expects him back but I'm assuming that because he's just in the door he may not know

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winston Ingram View Post
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    I get the fact that Dean Saunders expects him back but I'm assuming that because he's just in the door he may not know
    Saunders had him down at Molinieux in January, so he'll be fully aware of the contract situation

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winston Ingram View Post
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    So is it definite they have a 1 yr option?
    Even with them having a one year option he can still turn it dow surely?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiddo View Post
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    Even with them having a one year option he can still turn it dow surely?
    No mate. It will be a contractual obligation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FromTheCapital View Post
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    Oh I see... Completely agree that he should have been signed long term in January.
    If we lose him because of this then Petrie really does have questions to answered by the fans..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiddo View Post
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    Even with them having a one year option he can still turn it dow surely?
    Was thinking the same thing, not often these days the clubs hold a player if he wants away, if he does want away.

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    I don't think it's quite as simple as that mate. Wolves have an option of a one year extension, and if they decide to take up that option, then he is a Wolves player for another year - whether he wants to go somewhere else or not.

    Makes you wonder why we did not pay Wolves the £100K they wanted in January

    (edited to say that they would have possibly negotiated down to £75K ??)

    This was just a rumour no one/body ever confirmed it and the players I spoke to laughed it off

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    Quote Originally Posted by West hamBERNIAN View Post
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    Was thinking the same thing, not often these days the clubs hold a player if he wants away, if he does want away.
    Everybody seems to be missing the point that Leigh had a face to face with Saunders just a few weeks ago, after which Leigh's loan with us was extended. I think that it's highly likely Leigh was happy to come back here on the understanding that the situation would be reviewed in the summer. This is exactly what is happening

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    This was just a rumour no one/body ever confirmed it and the players I spoke to laughed it off
    I think it was more than a rumour, however only Hibs and Wolves will know the facts. I think if we had offered £100K (or close enough), then a deal would have been done (That was possibly before Saunders arrived right enough)

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