In the same way as we're keeping an eye on Morcambe's attendances after their "free entry" promotion, I thought it would be interesting to see what happens to Motherwell's attendances for the rest of the season. Will he be a "bums on seats" signing or not??
So far their SPL home gates have been...........
4,490 v St Johnstone
4,559 v St Mirren
4,031 v ICT
10,496 v Celtic
5,301 v Hibs
3,941 v Dundee Utd
4,318 v Dundee
4,147 v Hearts
3,739 v Ross County
5,093 v Aberdeen
4,903 v Kilmarnock
3,649 v St Johnstone
4,179 v ICT
That's an average of 4,834.
After signing..........
4,463 v Dundee Utd
8,641 v Celtic
5,108 v Hibs
That's an average of 6070
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19-02-2013 04:01 PM #1@hibs.net private member
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Motherwell's Attendances - The McFadden Factor
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19-02-2013 04:05 PM #2Left by mutual consent!
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Who is their next game against?
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19-02-2013 04:07 PM #4Ultimate Slaver
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Will the results of this be as meaningless as your last attempt?
Football Club gives free entry, attendance increased for that game. Subsequent games revert to normal price, crowds revert to normal level. I'm not sure what your point was
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Our good away support shows by that attendance! They have Utd at home tonight, will he be fit anyone know?
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People like free things?
Originally Posted by keekaboo
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Football Club gives free entry, attendance increased for that game. Subsequent games revert to normal price, crowds revert to normal level. I'm not sure what your point was
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Originally Posted by keekaboo
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Football Club gives free entry, attendance increased for that game. Subsequent games revert to normal price, crowds revert to normal level. I'm not sure what your point was
Yeah but it was an 'experiment' so to speak. Fans that hadn't been for a while might have gone and enjoyed it / been encouraged to go back. Hasn't seemed to work but was interesting seeing what the effect would be.
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What is it you think I'm trying to achieve? Whatever it is you obviously think I've failed. Originally Posted by keekaboo
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Football Club gives free entry, attendance increased for that game. Subsequent games revert to normal price, crowds revert to normal level. I'm not sure what your point was
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19-02-2013 05:03 PM #9
I think Mikey is just putting to test theories that promotions or big signings bring more people to the games. It will be interesting to see if this has any immediate or long term affect on thir crowds
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Originally Posted by Gatecrasher
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That's exactly it. We're regularly told that various schemes will work so I think it's worth keeping an eye on these two.
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But the speculate to accumulate theory trumps all ;) Originally Posted by Mikey
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That's exactly it. We're regularly told that various schemes will work so I think it's worth keeping an eye on these two."We know the people who have invested so far are simple fans." Vladimir Romanov - Scotsman 10th December 2012
"Romanov was like a breath of fresh air - laced with cyanide." Me.
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I'll see your "speculate to accumulate" theory and raise you an "it'll sell more pies" Originally Posted by VivaPalmeiras
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Dinnae think it will affect it tae much. Have tae hand it tae the steel men. I regard them as a much smaller club than us but they consistently dae well and finish above us! Example of what a club can achieve if ran well and they constantly do
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They are playing Dundee United tonight. How have they played one team at home three times before the split? I think something is wrong with your table... Originally Posted by Mikey
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As we all know, there are too many variables that affect attendance. In order to be able to draw any sort of meaningful conclusions, you would need to put together a data set and runs some regressions. You would then use a McFadden dummy variable.
By just eyeballing past attendances and the average, you won't be able to separate those factors, such as them being 2nd in the league now or their form at previous points in the seasons.
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Indeed. The second one shouldn't be there. I'll tidy it up.............. Originally Posted by NYHibby
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I agree with OP that this could be interesting to watch. Whether gates improve or not, its the kind of information that a chairman would be interested in getting hold of. If a player added 500 fans to a gate at easter road, thats about £10000 per match. You could pay a short term 'big signing' 5K/match appearance money rather than a contract and still profit financially (and hopefully do better on the pitch of course).
Very impressed by the attendance in the game vs Hibs - looks like a great away support unless there were other factors that led to a high attendance?
for the away bunch!
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Motherwell hardly have a history of being "well run". As well as them going into admin not all that long ago, they are as entrenched as anyone in the OF centric financial model of Scottish football. Originally Posted by M6hibee
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i wish stuart McColl would tell PF how to beat caley thistle after beating them 5-1 and 4-1 this season :(
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Why would he? Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
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Originally Posted by NYHibby
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they havent, they played Dundee utd home and away in november and the 3rd game is at home tonight
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Just said on Radio Scotland that they are expecting 11K at Fir Park tonight. That would be incredible!
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Keeping an eye on their results and finishing place in the Spl are fairly relevant. Also McFaddens contribution to that. Originally Posted by Mikey
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That's exactly it. We're regularly told that various schemes will work so I think it's worth keeping an eye on these two.
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Here's another [ex]Motherwell legend's best performance down south. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...v=O6OF43Ahd80#! Originally Posted by Mikey
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4,633 tonight according to BBC Sportsound's twitter.
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Sounds like a bit of yamathematics Originally Posted by AberGreen
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692 more than their last fixture against Dundee Utd. Originally Posted by Liam89
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+ It's a Tuesday night with Arsenal VS Bayern on the tv! Originally Posted by Mikey
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Why should that have an impact on the crowd. You either support a team by going or not. In their case not. Originally Posted by Liam89
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Do you think they signed McFadden to get more through the gate or to help them finish 2nd?
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The Hibs game was subsidised too was it not?
£10, and £5 for Concessions?
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