winter break timing. see latest weather forecasts/why have a shutdown? (Merged)

[monktonharp]

just noticed today that this weekend could see the start of a 3 week period of serious bad weather when tempratures can plummet to as much as -20.below. added to that, we can expect high winds, plenty snaw and black ice. akin to the stuff we had 2 years ago. not looking good for a full programme of games going ahead soon.

[Twiglet]

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just noticed today that this weekend could see the start of a 3 week period of serious bad weather when tempratures can plummet to as much as -20.below. added to that, we can expect high winds, plenty snaw and black ice. akin to the stuff we had 2 years ago. not looking good for a full programme of games going ahead soon.

Someone on Facebook put a link to the scotsman article that said that which mentions met office warnings and temperatures dropping this weekend, but there's nothing on the met office website to say anything like that. I looked at another forecast website and their 25 day forecast doesn't mention anything as cold though it will get down to about 0°C. They do mention sleet/snow but it doesn't look as bad as the scotsman is saying.
It could suddenly turn though, we are in Scotland after all.

[DaveF]

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just noticed today that this weekend could see the start of a 3 week period of serious bad weather when tempratures can plummet to as much as -20.below. added to that, we can expect high winds, plenty snaw and black ice. akin to the stuff we had 2 years ago. not looking good for a full programme of games going ahead soon.

Did you read that in the Daily Express - They are forever forecasting gloom

So far, this winter has been as cold as the summer just past. I'll believe the -20 when I see \ feel it.

[monktonharp]

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Did you read that in the Daily Express - They are forever forecasting gloom

So far, this winter has been as cold as the summer just past. I'll believe the -20 when I see \ feel it.

only posted this after reading a wee snippet in the EEN. quality paper. also heard that they are taking the word "gullible" out of the oxford dictionary, but we'll wait and see

[Alan62]

I think the point here is that there's no point in having a winter break in Scotland. It's just daft. The weather can be horrendous in January, February, March or even April or it can be a balmy 12ºC with the sun shining all day long. In 2011, it rained every single day in June. Remember also that game at Easter Road a few years back in the Intertoto Cup when it poured with rain so hard that the pitch was flooded. If we hadn't been playing a fixture against a team that looked like they'd spent all their money getting to Edinburgh, that game would have been called off and we'd have been spared the ignominy of being pumped by a bunch of part timers.

So, forget the winter break. Waste of time. Just spoils the rhythm of the season.

[SmashinGlass]

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I think the point here is that there's no point in having a winter break in Scotland. It's just daft. The weather can be horrendous in January, February, March or even April or it can be a balmy 12ºC with the sun shining all day long. In 2011, it rained every single day in June. Remember also that game at Easter Road a few years back in the Intertoto Cup when it poured with rain so hard that the pitch was flooded. If we hadn't been playing a fixture against a team that looked like they'd spent all their money getting to Edinburgh, that game would have been called off and we'd have been spared the ignominy of being pumped by a bunch of part timers.

So, forget the winter break. Waste of time. Just spoils the rhythm of the season.

Remember that game well, we won it 5-0. It was against Dinaburg someone or other. I recall it well for 2 reasons, 1. Because I literally swam to the game and 2. Because I was at wedding reception that night straight from the game. Was there at the game suited and booted only for the clothes to be ruined by the weather :-(

[Baldy Foghorn]

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Remember that game well, we won it 5-0. It was against Dinaburg someone or other. I recall it well for 2 reasons, 1. Because I literally swam to the game and 2. Because I was at wedding reception that night straight from the game. Was there at the game suited and booted only for the clothes to be ruined by the weather :-(

Was Alan62 not referring to Vetra from Lithuania....They knocked us out the intertoto.....

[IWasThere2016]

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just noticed today that this weekend could see the start of a 3 week period of serious bad weather when tempratures can plummet to as much as -20.below. added to that, we can expect high winds, plenty snaw and black ice. akin to the stuff we had 2 years ago. not looking good for a full programme of games going ahead soon.

Summer football is the answer IMHO.

[TheReg!]

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Summer football is the answer IMHO.

It is TQM, going to football in the summer months is quality, cutting about with short sleeve tops on, sitting in a beer garden before and after etc. it will never happen but wouldn't it be great!

[ScottB]

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Summer football is the answer IMHO.

Quite possibly, but with the weather the last 2 summers we'd probably have had numerous games called off for waterlogged pitches!

[Alan62]

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Was Alan62 not referring to Vetra from Lithuania....They knocked us out the intertoto.....

I was indeed. Freak rain, pitch like a swamp, knocked out by a bunch of euro-minnows. By 5 o'clock the sun had come out but it was too late for us ...

[Haggis Hibby]

re summer football.... it also comes down to us getting judged on european qualifcation.... starting a season in june and have dec jan off work work out better i think.... okok nyd game etc ect but freezing ur knacks off gets less appealing each winter....

[marinello59]

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Summer football is the answer IMHO.

Exactly.

[Golden Bear]

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Summer football is the answer IMHO.

And when exactly is summer?

The players and officials couldn't see because of the sun when we last played at Pittodrie - that would never happen in our so called summer!

[SmashinGlass]

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Was Alan62 not referring to Vetra from Lithuania....They knocked us out the intertoto.....

Ah, never though of that one. It was largely uneventful from memory, other than the fact we got papped out

[Haymaker]

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Summer football is the answer IMHO.

It might be slightl warmer but it still rains all the bloody time. Summer football will do us no better than what we have.

[hibsbollah]

It rains about twice as much in July in Edinburgh (80mm) as it does in February (40mm). Last year our heatwave was in March, i remember it was 23C.

Summer football sounds like a good idea, until you remember we dont actually have one.

[Haymaker]

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It rains about twice as much in July in Edinburgh (80mm) as it does in February (40mm). Last year our heatwave was in March, i remember it was 23C.

Summer football sounds like a good idea, until you remember we dont actually have one.

Fully agree.

[Mr White]

How bad would Saturday afternoons/evenings be in November December and January with no football? I can just about put up with strictly come dancing and x factor at the moment but if I have to spend Saturdays going shopping rather than watching football before being exposed to that p1sh it would be twice as grim.

[Golden Bear]

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It rains about twice as much in July in Edinburgh (80mm) as it does in February (40mm). Last year our heatwave was in March, i remember it was 23C.

Summer football sounds like a good idea, until you remember we dont actually have one.

The official Hibs Net weather consultant has offered his words of wisdom.

[marinello59]

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It rains about twice as much in July in Edinburgh (80mm) as it does in February (40mm). Last year our heatwave was in March, i remember it was 23C.

Summer football sounds like a good idea, until you remember we dont actually have one.

Wind? Frost? Snow? What are the comparision figures like for them? How well does the grass grow between games in Winter to keep the pitch in top condition to encourage passing fitba?
The odd game would be rained off...............but the games that are played would be much more enjoyable for fans and players alike.

[Mr White]

Grass growth in winter would surely have to be a consideration before switching to summer football as pitches would only get a rest from play when grass growth is at its slowest rate. At least at the moment the grass gets June and July to recover properly with no play and more sunlight.

[Golden Bear]

5 degrees is the minimum temperature for grass to grow. It's just a pity that it seems to rain regardless of the seasons these days.

[Haymaker]

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Wind? Frost? Snow? What are the comparision figures like for them? How well does the grass grow between games in Winter to keep the pitch in top condition to encourage passing fitba?
The odd game would be rained off...............but the games that are played would be much more enjoyable for fans and players alike.

Grass would struggle to grow under winter off conditions, lack of sunlight and the snow and frost.

Heavy rain over summer could see the pitch in a terrible condition for the run in to November season end.

There is no real solution IMO other than clubs working on their ground and ground staff. All of this will, of course, cost money that most can't or won't spend. Always bloody money.

[hibsbollah]

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Wind? Frost? Snow? What are the comparision figures like for them? How well does the grass grow between games in Winter to keep the pitch in top condition to encourage passing fitba?
The odd game would be rained off...............but the games that are played would be much more enjoyable for fans and players alike.

Actually the 80mm vs 40mm figures for July vs Feb is for precipitation, from the BBC, so includes sleet, rain AND snow. Grass starts growing at 6C, so for most of this winter the grass HAS been growing a bit, you'll notice if it hadnt been so wet your lawn would be needing cut by now.
The pitches are looking pretty good this winter IMO.

Youre clearly a fan of Chick Young's summer football revolution, but to me it wouldnt make much difference to the matchday experience because of our climate to justify the changes involved. And as a poster above said, i like the Christmas New Year programme of games which feels traditional and gets me out of the house and the kids and the TV.

[marinello59]

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Actually the 80mm vs 40mm figures for July vs Feb is for precipitation, from the BBC, so includes sleet, rain AND snow. Grass starts growing at 6C, so for most of this winter the grass HAS been growing a bit, you'll notice if it hadnt been so wet your lawn would be needing cut by now.
The pitches are looking pretty good this winter IMO.

Youre clearly a fan of Chick Young's summer football revolution, but to me it wouldnt make much difference to the matchday experience because of our climate to justify the changes involved. And as a poster above said, i like the Christmas New Year programme of games which feels traditional and gets me out of the house and the kids and the TV.

I will concede on the grass thing.....i really no nothing about it.
Chick Youngs summer football revolution? Who cares what he thinks? Maybe if you describe summer football as that often enough the term could be used instead of actual debate.
I just think playing football in a Scottish winter is madness.Watching games in the freezing cold is a miserable experience for an adult, for kids it hardly encourages them to keep going. We even expect our kids to learn to play the game in weather you wouldn't send a Jambo out in. Throw in the chance for us to make our own wee TV niche and a straight 16/18 team league suddenly would make financial sense. Stuff tradition if it holds us back.

[Hibbyradge]

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Summer football is the answer IMHO.

So you would forsake the medal rounds in the summer for football, but you're not prepared to miss a winter bounce game?

I love the idea of summer football, but there would be so many alternatives for people.

Golf, holidays, outdoor stuff, beach volleyball (maybe) and other healthy things etc would all be a pull away from football so it would be a gamble regarding attendances.

Friday night football is the answer. Summer or winter.

[Golden Bear]

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So you would forsake the medal rounds in the summer for football, but you're not prepared to miss a winter bounce game?

I love the idea of summer football, but there would be so many alternatives for people.

Golf, holidays, outdoor stuff, beach volleyball (maybe) and other healthy things etc would all be a pull away from football so it would be a gamble regarding attendances.

Friday night football is the answer. Summer or winter.

Although the Edinburgh polis might have something to say about your last sentence.

[hibsbollah]

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I will concede on the grass thing.....i really no nothing about it.
Chick Youngs summer football revolution? Who cares what he thinks? Maybe if you describe summer football as that often enough the term could be used instead of actual debate.
I just think playing football in a Scottish winter is madness.Watching games in the freezing cold is a miserable experience for an adult, for kids it hardly encourages them to keep going. We even expect our kids to learn to play the game in weather you wouldn't send a Jambo out in. Throw in the chance for us to make our own wee TV niche and a straight 16/18 team league suddenly would make financial sense. Stuff tradition if it holds us back.

I apologise for bundling you in with Chick, it was uncalled for

[marinello59]

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So you would forsake the medal rounds in the summer for football, but you're not prepared to miss a winter bounce game?

I love the idea of summer football, but there would be so many alternatives for people.

Golf, holidays, outdoor stuff, beach volleyball (maybe) and other healthy things etc would all be a pull away from football so it would be a gamble regarding attendances.

Friday night football is the answer. Summer or winter.

I like Friday night football although travelling would be akward for some games for those who work through the day. The weather conditions would still be more suited to hoofball than the modern game though.