League Reconstruction for 2013/14 (merged)

[Green&White]

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Looks like the SPL will be no more. Looks like clubs will vote 12 12 18 with one league structure

According to Sky Sports News.

Suppose it would explain why no vote has been taken on 11-1 requirement for change and re-distribution of wealth. They are hoping for next season as well with no special treatment for The Rangers. Not sure if anyone wanted this though. I would still prefer 18 team league.

Smacks of making a "change" with no actual change at all. whats the point?

[PatHead]

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Yeah seems Scottish football will have one govern body once again. I would have preferred a league of 14-14-14 and another couple of leagues from the east of Scotland / junior leagues top sides who meet the criteria. At the moment the third 3 division teams never get relegated so a team could finish bottom for 10 years but still play sfl which I've never understood. Question is does the fans agree with the new set really! Oh wait we don't get a say on it.

We did get a survey. They just ignored the results. Also no mention of a pyramid structure

[jonty]

change for the lower leagues more like.

I just wish they'd ditch the stupid split, and playing each other 4 times a season.

Familiarity breeds contempt.

[Gerard]

you have a survey and get the survey results. You then ignore the findings of the survey. Why bother having a survey?

[muirhousehibby]

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you have a survey and get the survey results. You then ignore the findings of the survey. Why bother having a survey?

Spot on m8 why bothering asking fans of Scottish football then ignore the survey results. The split some terrible and could end up making the set up boring.

[GoldenEagle]

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change for the lower leagues more like.

I just wish they'd ditch the stupid split, and playing each other 4 times a season.

Familiarity breeds contempt.

It also breeds the vast majority of the income though.

[Pretty Boy]

So are we getting that league splitting into 3 groups of 8 thing then?

[muzzhfc]

scottish football is a disgrace. nothing else.

they should (in my opinion) of went for a 16 - 10 - 16. 2 games home and away, then split into a top 8 and bottom 8 (thats purely for the money grabbing chairmen). wasnt the hole point of the spl splitting from the sfl and league increase to STOP playing teams 4 times a season?!

[Hainan Hibs]

Unfortunately they have to maintain a league system that will guarantee the future of 4 "Auld Firm" games a season to maintain one of the ****test TV deals in Europe.

[GoldenEagle]

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So are we getting that league splitting into 3 groups of 8 thing then?

If the clubs vote for it then yes.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20941213

I think we get too hung up about league structures anyways, once the season starts you tend to look no further ahead than the next 3-4 games. This new structure will certainly make every game count IMO right to the end of the season.

How it effects ST sales I'm not sure as do you sell the first 11 games and then a 'half ST ticket' or sell them all up front?

[Beefster]

Scottish football really is beyond parody.

[GoldenEagle]

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Unfortunately they have to maintain a league system that will guarantee the future of 4 "Auld Firm" games a season to maintain one of the ****test TV deals in Europe.

How much would it cost Hibs not to have those additional home games and a worse TV deal. Would we be able to attract an additional 7-8000 onto our gate each week to keep the current turnover or would we need to run with a part time squad or other drastic measures.

I'd want a 16 team as much as anyone but I've yet to see any science behind how the figures would add up

[Gatecrasher]

I just want to boke every time i see Regan, Doncaster and the rest of their cronies with Dollar signs in their eyes saying they are doing this in the best interests of the game

[GoldenEagle]

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I just want to boke every time i see Regan, Doncaster and the rest of their cronies with Dollar signs in their eyes saying they are doing this in the best interests of the game

Who is it in the best interests of, I presume you mean Rangers 2012, but perhaps its what the chairmen of all the other big clubs in Scotland want as well just to survive a the current level never mind prosper.

[lucky]

Hibs can't afford a bigger league with less home games. The 3*8 split will be interesting and hopefully competitive

[Gatecrasher]

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Who is it in the best interests of, I presume you mean Rangers 2012, but perhaps its what the chairmen of all the other big clubs in Scotland want as well just to survive a the current level never mind prosper.

The Rangers wont benefit from the new set up, it's just the same pish under a different guise IMO

[GoldenEagle]

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Hibs can't afford a bigger league with less home games. The 3*8 split will be interesting and hopefully competitive

For Hibs read every other SPL club and those at the top of the 1st division.

"disgrace", "boycott", "boring", "Only for OF", "I'm no going back" will be the social media watch words other the next few weeks until keyboard are bashed and throats are hoarse through phone-ins.

If you want to support Hibs and Scottish football go to games, alternatively just leave us that want to do exactly that alone rather than trying to tell us how bad it is and organising others not to either spend money on fitba or putting others off by the constant "its shi'ite" mantra

[Mikey]

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For Hibs read every other SPL club and those at the top of the 1st division.

"disgrace", "boycott", "boring", "Only for OF", "I'm no going back" will be the social media watch words other the next few weeks until keyboard are bashed and throats are hoarse through phone-ins.

If you want to support Hibs and Scottish football go to games, alternatively just leave us that want to do exactly that alone rather than trying to tell us how bad it is and organising others not to either spend money on fitba or putting others off by the constant "its shi'ite" mantra

[bingo70]

Looking at the league's positively it'll mean we still get the money from the tv deal, bigger variety of teams we play against, still get the bigger gates against Celtic and rangers if we do well, gives teams something to play for all season and probably the best chance we've got of getting a system that could help teams compete with the old firm for the top two places.

The downside is that's its complicated and it doesn't solve the problem of clubs not being able to play youngsters due to fear of relegation.

Imo its not without fault but nowhere near as bad as some are making out.

[The_Exile]

Am I the only one who thinks this looks quite good then? Better than the ***** we've got just now, the bottom 4 SPL and top 4 of championship split looks brilliant!

[bingo70]

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Am I the only one who thinks this looks quite good then? Better than the ***** we've got just now, the bottom 4 SPL and top 4 of championship split looks brilliant!

No, I agree with you. Im not sure of some things though, that section you speak about, what are they playing for after the split?

[The_Exile]

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No, I agree with you. Im not sure of some things though, that section you speak about, what are they playing for after the split?

Top 4 of that mini league play SPL football the next year I'd imagine. Amazing, giving 4 1st division team get a crack.

[CropleyWasGod]

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scottish football is a disgrace. nothing else.

they should (in my opinion) of went for a 16 - 10 - 16. 2 games home and away, then split into a top 8 and bottom 8 (thats purely for the money grabbing chairmen). wasnt the hole point of the spl splitting from the sfl and league increase to STOP playing teams 4 times a season?!

How would you fit 44 league games into a season?

[Mikey]

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How would you fit 44 league games into a season?

I can guarantee you he didn't think of that.

[bingo70]

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How would you fit 44 league games into a season?

Livi director has just tweeted that English clubs play 42 plus play offs so its not impossible.

[ronaldo7]

I'm willing to give it a go, as long as we're in the top 8 after the first 22 games

Will the Hearts make it into the top 8 next season

[CropleyWasGod]

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Livi director has just tweeted that English clubs play 42 plus play offs so its not impossible.

IIRC, we tried it once, a few years ago, and it was bounced because it was too long a season.

[Hibeesforever]

Listening to Alan Preston, what a clown. (though agree ST holders should be canvassed)
I actually think it is a good idea.
Only downside is the amount of pressure placed on players & managers. I would make sure that there were rules that a set number of under 23 players should be listed on teamsheet.

[JollyGreenGiant]

So if it get the go ahead we get a split of 3 groups of 8.

Did I read somewhere that the 3 groups of 8 all start the last round of games on Nil points?

[bingo70]

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Listening to Alan Preston, what a clown. (though agree ST holders should be canvassed)
I actually think it is a good idea.
Only downside is the amount of pressure placed on players & managers. I would make sure that there were rules that a set number of under 23 players should be listed on teamsheet.

Tbf we can't have it all ways though, we can't ask for a more competitive league and then when we get it complain it'll mean we can't play youngsters.