SPL clubs pursue plan for two divisions of 12 teams

[SteveHFC]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20581620

So that's the rangers back in the spl soon then

[Liberal Hibby]

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20581620

So that's the rangers back in the spl soon then

How so - they're not in the top 24?

[jdships]

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How so - they're not in the top 24?

Don't fancy two leagues of twelve .
Top league of sixteen is a must surely ?

[Hibbyradge]

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Don't fancy two leagues of twelve .
Top league of sixteen is a must surely ?

Could we exist on just 15 home games?

[CropleyWasGod]

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Don't fancy two leagues of twelve .
Top league of sixteen is a must surely ?

Not any more.

It's 2 leagues of 12, then 3 of 8.

[Hibercelona]

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Not any more.

It's 2 leagues of 12, then 3 of 8.

I'm sure the clubs who aren't in the 2 big leagues will be real chuffed about playing each other 5 or so times a season...

[Big-Si-1875]

Throbbers- Doncaster GTF

[CropleyWasGod]

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I'm sure the clubs who aren't in the 2 big leagues will be real chuffed about playing each other 5 or so times a season...

It's a maximum of 4 times a season.

Home and away in the 12, then home and away in the 8. 36 games.

[Hibercelona]

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There are 11 other teams in the first round.... therefore 22 games.

There are 7 other teams in the second round..... 14 games.

22 plus 14 = 36.

I know mate.

Sorry, I was reading it differently.

[Mikey]

If Hibs are kicking around 2nd or 3rd spot regularly I don't think too many will complain about the format. And there's absolutely no reason to believe that Rangers will get right back in, even to SPL 2.

[Bostonhibby]

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20581620

So that's the rangers back in the spl soon then

Really looking forward to the consultation with the fans on this one, surely they won't forget us this time? especially those of the clubs who exist legally at the time and occupy 1st to 24th position in what we have always recognised as a league structure.

If not I can feel another protest coming on - popping out for some cake mix.

[CropleyWasGod]

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Really looking forward to the consultation with the fans on this one, surely they won't forget us this time? especially those of the clubs who exist legally at the time and occupy 1st to 24th position in what we have always recognised as a league structure.

If not I can feel another protest coming on - popping out for some cake mix.

"The SPL would invite clubs to enter the league, determined by their league positions prior to the start of any re-organised season. "

In other words, there will be no immediate entry to Rangers. Seems fair.

[Bostonhibby]

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"The SPL would invite clubs to enter the league, determined by their league positions prior to the start of any re-organised season. "

In other words, there will be no immediate entry to Rangers. Seems fair.

Watch this space though, lot of lobbying time between now and then.

My nominations for top influencing personalities between now and then are cheeky Charlie " the Hun " Green closely followed by whoever is trying to get the Council tax payer to fund Zombie Yam's automatic entry to this fortunately timed "opportunity". Mind you I could be wrong as I have been awake for 30 hours

[dangermouse]

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"The SPL would invite clubs to enter the league, determined by their league positions prior to the start of any re-organised season. "

In other words, there will be no immediate entry to Rangers. Seems fair.

I would assume that if The Rangers win SFL3 then by the time this is implemented they will be top of SFL2 thus gaining entry to SPL2. If they wait another season they would be top of SFL1 and get entry to SPL1 but its still a long road back. Here's hoping there are still a few twists to the tale before it ends. I also thought CG didn't want to play in the SPL so will they remain permanently in the third tier of Scottish football if the re construction goes ahead?

[Eyrie]

Excellent news about a sensible proposal.

The 24-18 model should assist in merging the SPL and SFL and also opens the way for a pyramid structure below the 18-team lower league.

[jdships]

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Could we exist on just 15 home games?

Could/Can we exist with the present boring playing each other four time a year ?
I am underwhelmed with that set up
Simply bores me to think with League Cup/Scottish Cup ( including possible replays) you could possibly play say Motherwell six time in a season - WOWEE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Surely they can include a League Cup ,or similar , including teams outside the sixteen to make up the games required

Game has completely lost its way in Scotland especially with Doncaster at the helm
We surely need a single legislative body to take the game forward

[VickMackie]

Erm, what's changed?

Top division of 12 teams still the same. I see no mention of playoffs, fairer distribution of money etc.

It's just the SFL rejigged.

[CropleyWasGod]

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Erm, what's changed?

Top division of 12 teams still the same. I see no mention of playoffs, fairer distribution of money etc.

It's just the SFL rejigged.

There's a split after 22 games into 3 leagues of 8.

[jdships]

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There's a split after 22 games into 3 leagues of 8.

That's going to make things really exciting !!
What is the obsession with playing each other four times a season ?

[CropleyWasGod]

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That's going to make things really exciting !!
What is the obsession with playing each other four times a season ?

As I understand it, everybody starts from scratch in the second league.... which keeps everyone's interest alive after Christmas.

[lord bunberry]

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As I understand it, everybody starts from scratch in the second league.... which keeps everyone's interest alive after Christmas.

is that definately going to be the case because if it is i quite like the idea but i have my doubts that it will happen like that

[CropleyWasGod]

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is that definately going to be the case because if it is i quite like the idea but i have my doubts that it will happen like that

I think that is the proposal, but of course it needs SFL support as well.

I am not sure, either, if UEFA would need to approve it. In essence, there will be two separate competitions in the same season, and that might not be looked upon favourably.

I'm with you, though. I think it has the potential to keep the season going longer for everyone.

[VickMackie]

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I think that is the proposal, but of course it needs SFL support as well.

I am not sure, either, if UEFA would need to approve it. In essence, there will be two separate competitions in the same season, and that might not be looked upon favourably.

I'm with you, though. I think it has the potential to keep the season going longer for everyone.

The top 6 gives plenty meaningful games. Adding a playoff to 10th and 11th would ensure everything was meaningful.

[lord bunberry]

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I think that is the proposal, but of course it needs SFL support as well.

I am not sure, either, if UEFA would need to approve it. In essence, there will be two separate competitions in the same season, and that might not be looked upon favourably.

I'm with you, though. I think it has the potential to keep the season going longer for everyone.

i think they do something similar in holland and also in belgium but im not sure if its exactly the same. if they zero the points after 22 games it must make the chances of someone other than the of winning the league much higher

[kentao]

To make the league more competitive we have to play Rangers and celtic twice. at worst all teams will lose 12 points whereas now we all lose 24 points if they win. We must push for a bigger league setup of 18 - 20. and play each other twice. Prize money must be shared equally instead of league positions. The ones who qualify for Champs League and Europe gain a cash advantage from their league success.

The next couple of seasons will be the most interesting as anyone can beat anyone but once der hun get back into the SPL normal service will resume and we will all be atleast 20 points a drift. Things must be changed so im all for a larger league.

[CropleyWasGod]

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To make the league more competitive we have to play Rangers and celtic twice. at worst all teams will lose 12 points whereas now we all lose 24 points if they win. We must push for a bigger league setup of 18 - 20. and play each other twice. Prize money must be shared equally instead of league positions. The ones who qualify for Champs League and Europe gain a cash advantage from their league success.

The next couple of seasons will be the most interesting as anyone can beat anyone but once der hun get back into the SPL normal service will resume and we will all be atleast 20 points a drift. Things must be changed so im all for a larger league.

In the proposed league, though, we won't be losing 24 points. We will be losing a maximum of 12 points in the first league, and then starting from scratch for the second league.

[Liberal Hibby]

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The top 6 gives plenty meaningful games. Adding a playoff to 10th and 11th would ensure everything was meaningful.

Yes but you split after three games - meaning an uneven amount of home and away games. This proposal gives an even amount of games.

It's similar to the Swiss (or maybe Austrian) league - so I assume the top mini league carry forward their points and the lower mini leagues start afresh for promotion/relegation. If combined with a pyramid and single governing body it will have my support.

[woody47]

This is still a crock of cr@p.

Playing the same teams a minimum four times each season is one of the reasons fans are being driven away as they are just bored.

Will they ever listen, AND, act on what the people who actually pay their over inflated wages? I doubt it.

Lets get rid of the suits in Glasgow first. Then get rid of this two tier system and go back to having ONE body in charge of Scottish football. No more elitism.

Then have a top league of 16. Play home and away once only. Cup games on Saturdays. No midweek games where possible as this is a definite way of reducing crowds - unless they are European nights.

[kentao]

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In the proposed league, though, we won't be losing 24 points. We will be losing a maximum of 12 points in the first league, and then starting from scratch for the second league.

Can you see Celtic or Rangers agreeing to this when after the first run of games are completed and they are running away from the pack.

If thats the option id rather we just let them have a league of 2 and let the rest of us fight it out.

:D

[CropleyWasGod]

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Can you see Celtic or Rangers agreeing to this when after the first run of games are completed and they are running away from the pack.

If thats the option id rather we just let them have a league of 2 and let the rest of us fight it out.

:D

Celtic have already agreed, as members of the SPL.

Rangers will have a vote, as members of the SFL, along with everyone else.