Luiz Adriano banned

***Speedy*** · 27-11-2012 06:26 PM

Does anyone else think Luiz Adriano's ban is a farce?

http://uk.uefa.com/uefa/footballfirs...d=1899812.html

He was banned for 1 champions league game for violation of the principles of conduct for this:

The thing is, the ref gave the goal so how can they now ban him?

And the other thing is that they have already qualified so it's nothing more than a token gesture.

**~~Hibercelona~~** · 27-11-2012 06:31 PM

I never realized that there was a rule against doing that.

Did we not do that once against Dundee/Dundee Utd or something?

***CropleyWasGod*** · 27-11-2012 06:33 PM

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Does anyone else think Luiz Adriano's ban is a farce?

http://uk.uefa.com/uefa/footballfirs...d=1899812.html

He was banned for 1 champions league game for violation of the principles of conduct for this:

The thing is, the ref gave the goal so how can they now ban him?

And the other thing is that they have already qualified so it's nothing more than a token gesture.

The ref gave the goal, because there was nothing else he could do. However, it is rank bad sportsmanship, and UEFA are right to ban him.

**brianmc** · 27-11-2012 06:34 PM

There isn't a rule..... Farce!

***matty_f*** · 27-11-2012 06:35 PM

I don't see how you can ban him for it. He's under no obligation to stop playing, and where do you draw the line? Does every player now have to give the ball back if it's put out for treatment? That's just open to abuse.

**Sir David Gray** · 27-11-2012 06:36 PM

No doubting that it's bad sportsmanship but what rule did he break by doing that?

**macca70** · 27-11-2012 06:37 PM

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I never realized that there was a rule against doing that.

Did we not do that once against Dundee/Dundee Utd or something?

Against Dundee Utd, they kicked the ball out, we kept the ball from the throw in. Think it was Matty Jack.

The games becoming a joke with regards to putting the ball out for injuries and also how the game is then restarted.

You never get a good old fashioned contested drop ball anymore.

Also, it should be up to a ref to stop a game if he feels a players injury warrants the game to be stopped, players kicking the ball out for the game to be stopped is just a joke.

**CB_NO3** · 27-11-2012 06:41 PM

What he done was poor and very bad sportsmanship but he shouldn't be banned for it. How can you get banned for scoring a legit goal. He could take this to the court of abritration and make a fool of Uefa.

***CropleyWasGod*** · 27-11-2012 06:42 PM

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No doubting that it's bad sportsmanship but what rule did he break by doing that?

Article 5, UEFA Disciplinary Regulations

"Member associations and clubs, as well as their players, officials and members,
shall conduct themselves according to the principles of loyalty, integrity and
sportsmanship."

***lucky*** · 27-11-2012 06:43 PM

It's what Hearts would do. No class

***CropleyWasGod*** · 27-11-2012 06:48 PM

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There isn't a rule..... Farce!

Yes, there is.

**PeeJay** · 27-11-2012 06:50 PM

Isn't this what they used to call "ungentlemanly conduct"? Surely he is bringing the game into disrepute by his action and showing a complete lack of respect for his opponents, in particular, and the game in general? - I would have banned him for more than 1 game ...

**Bleeds green** · 27-11-2012 06:55 PM

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There isn't a rule..... Farce!

So if he did this in an important tie v us u would have no qualms??!!

**Postman** · 27-11-2012 07:07 PM

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Isn't this what they used to call "ungentlemanly conduct"? Surely he is bringing the game into disrepute by his action and showing a complete lack of respect for his opponents, in particular, and the game in general? - I would have banned him for more than 1 game ...

Totally agree! Should have been banned for longer and how anyone can call that a legit goal is beyond me! Absolutely ridiculous and we would not be quite so understanding if it was against us!

***CropleyWasGod*** · 27-11-2012 07:09 PM

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Totally agree! Should have been banned for longer and how anyone can call that a legit goal is beyond me! Absolutely ridiculous and we would not be quite so understanding if it was against us!

Within the laws of the game, the ref had no option but to award the goal. UEFA, however, have exercised their own right to discipline him. Both were correct decisions, IMO.

***wookie70*** · 27-11-2012 07:26 PM

Something similar happened a wee while back and the team that scored the unsporting goal allowed the other team to score direct from the KO. It could have been settled on the park and the offenders team mates should have been so embarrassed that they put things right there and then. Good finish from the lad though!!

**brianmc** · 27-11-2012 07:40 PM

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Article 5, UEFA Disciplinary Regulations

"Member associations and clubs, as well as their players, officials and members,
shall conduct themselves according to the principles of loyalty, integrity and
sportsmanship."

Is it bad sportsmanship to claim for a throw in when you know it's the positions? Yes.
Bad sportsmanship taking a dive? Yes.
Feigning injury? Yes.
And on and on.
Whilst we're on the subject of this game, was it bad sportsmanship after this goal where they tried to let the other team equalize-only for one of the defenders to tackle guy and stop him scoring? How come uefa haven't charged him?
The whole culture of putting the ball out/non contesting of drop balls does my nut in.

**Postman** · 27-11-2012 07:41 PM

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Within the laws of the game, the ref had no option but to award the goal. UEFA, however, have exercised their own right to discipline him. Both were correct decisions, IMO.

Obviously the ref had to give it but can't believe it was allowed to happen! An uncontested drop ball with defenders and keeper not moving after they played on. Can't believe they didn't allow them to go up the other end to score to cancel it out after that

**brianmc** · 27-11-2012 07:42 PM

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So if he did this in an important tie v us u would have no qualms??!!

I'd be hurling abuse at whichever idiot on our team was trying to give them the ball back. Mann up and play the game eh

***Scouse Hibee*** · 27-11-2012 07:43 PM

Players should do this more often, then the whole farce of stopping the game and giving the ball back will have to be looked at. We'll set the ball rolling on Sunday

***Scouse Hibee*** · 27-11-2012 07:45 PM

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Obviously the ref had to give it but can't believe it was allowed to happen! An uncontested drop ball with defenders and keeper not moving after they played on. Can't believe they didn't allow them to go up the other end to score to cancel it out after that

They did initially but one of their defenders disagreed and put in a tackle to prevent the goal.

**Sir David Gray** · 27-11-2012 07:47 PM

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Players should do this more often, then the whole farce of stopping the game and giving the ball back will have to be looked at. We'll set the ball rolling on Sunday

Apart from witnessing their extinction, nothing (and I mean NOTHING) would make me happier than for Leigh Griffiths to score the winning goal on Sunday under those circumstances.

**Hibee87** · 27-11-2012 07:52 PM

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They did initially but one of their defenders disagreed and put in a tackle to prevent the goal.

It wasnt a defender who never let them walk up the pitch and score......it was LUIZ ADRIANO

unsportsmanship x2 from him haha

**Postman** · 27-11-2012 07:53 PM

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Apart from witnessing their extinction, nothing (and I mean NOTHING) would make me happier than for Leigh Griffiths to score the winning goal on Sunday under those circumstances.

That would make you happier than scoring a few perfectly fair goals and winning?? Wouldn't be the same for me

**Sir David Gray** · 27-11-2012 07:55 PM

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That would make you happier than scoring a few perfectly fair goals and winning?? Wouldn't be the same for me

I didn't say anything about us not scoring a few perfectly fair goals as well.

It's just the winning goal by Griffiths that I would love to be scored like that.

**Boyle89** · 27-11-2012 08:03 PM

Honking sportsmanship. I was more annoyed at the fact that the team then stopped the other team from scoring after the 'goal'. It may not be against the rules but taking advantage like that is just like diving imo. No point playing the game if you can't play fair.

***Baader*** · 27-11-2012 08:04 PM

Good to see him banned. Football is getting enough bad press right now - it is (or was) a game where sportmanship had an important place...

***CropleyWasGod*** · 27-11-2012 08:06 PM

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Obviously the ref had to give it but can't believe it was allowed to happen! An uncontested drop ball with defenders and keeper not moving after they played on. Can't believe they didn't allow them to go up the other end to score to cancel it out after that

Indeed. But then there might have been an issue of away goals.