Gareth Bale

[SteveHFC]

Diving rat-faced ****

[Steve-O]

BALE

[Hibstrooper]

I think it was a pen

[Steve-O]

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I think it was a pen

You blind?

[Hibstrooper]

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You blind?

Nope, I think at that pace if you are clipped its easy to go over and in fact Maloney has already came out and held his hands up. What do you say now?

[Steve-O]

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Nope, I think at that pace if you are clipped its easy to go over and in fact Maloney has already came out and held his hands up. What do you say now?

I say he was clipped, by his own leg, and Maloney didn't touch him. Holding hands up means is a proclamation of innocence, not guilt!

[Luna Landing]

If that penalty had been given against England because of a dive by a foreign player you would have got all the usual stuff about foreigners diving and it needs to be stamped out of the game and there would have been absolute bedlam in the Sky studio. Because it was Bale who plays for a top Premier League club he was entitled to go down according to Mark Bowen. Basically he tripped himself and he's a cheat simple as that . Ramsay also dived twicw -absolute scandal in my opinion and as for the disallowed goal dont get me started.

[Hibstrooper]

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I say he was clipped, by his own leg, and Maloney didn't touch him. Holding hands up means is a proclamation of innocence, not guilt!

"I accept responsibility for conceding the penalty," the Scotland midfielder said.

And goodnight

[MWHIBBIES]

Hardly the first time he has done it as well, horrible cheating *******

[Hibstrooper]

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"I accept responsibility for conceding the penalty," the Scotland midfielder said.

And goodnight

PS taken straight from the bbc site just don't know how to post link on iPhone.

No conspiracy or robbing in Scotland getting beat tonight is all I'm saying

[Steve-O]

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PS taken straight from the bbc site just don't know how to post link on iPhone.

No conspiracy or robbing in Scotland getting beat tonight is all I'm saying

Still think it was a dive, but we probably didn't merit a win I agree.

[Hibstrooper]

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Still think it was a dive, but we probably didn't merit a win I agree.

Hold on, you call me blind for thinking that he was clipped and it was a pen, the Scotland player has came out and said it was a pen and apologised. Am I missing something?

All I want to know is whether you still think I'm blind or not?

[Luna Landing]

I think the TV pictures were pretty clear - Maloney didnt touch him and if anything tried to get out of the way ( he was pretty close to Bale so I would imagine he felt he had to accept responsibility whether it was apen or not) - Bale tripped himself from what I saw . Blatant dive

[Steve-O]

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Hold on, you call me blind for thinking that he was clipped and it was a pen, the Scotland player has came out and said it was a pen and apologised. Am I missing something?

All I want to know is whether you still think I'm blind or not?

He doesn't say he touched him. Perhaps he accepts responsibility for letting him get past him in the first place?

[Hibstrooper]

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I think the TV pictures were pretty clear - Maloney didnt touch him and if anything tried to get out of the way ( he was pretty close to Bale so I would imagine he felt he had to accept responsibility whether it was apen or not) - Bale tripped himself from what I saw . Blatant dive

Ok. Bale did trip over his own leg. However the reason he tripped over his own leg was because the movement of his left foot was changed because it was caught by Shaun Maloney's thigh.

Was it intentional? No

Did it cause Bale to trip? Yes

Was it a pen? Yes

Is antone in the Scotland camp disputing the pen (including Maloney)? No

[Hibstrooper]

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He doesn't say he touched him. Perhaps he accepts responsibility for letting him get past him in the first place?

Seriously, is that what you are clinging too rather than apologising for slagging me when I called it correctly?

[Wotherspiniesta]

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Ok. Bale did trip over his own leg. However the reason he tripped over his own leg was because the movement of his left foot was changed because it was caught by Shaun Maloney's thigh.

Was it intentional? No

Did it cause Bale to trip? Yes

Was it a pen? Yes

Is antone in the Scotland camp disputing the pen (including Maloney)? No

Well, thats utter nonsense. Maybe you should try actually watching he clip posted by Steve instead of making up stories to suit your arguement?

Bale's dived. Simple as that.

The referee and linesmen were absolutely terrible tonight. Just about every major decision they called wrong. Wales should have had a pen when Berra bearhugged the CF (What was he playing at there?!) Ramsey should have had a 2nd yellow for simulation. Scotland's goal should never have been chalked off and Bale tripped himself up to win a pen and should have had a 2nd yellow for simulation. Absolute shambles.

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Well, thats utter nonsense. Maybe you should try actually watching he clip posted by Steve instead of making up stories to suit your arguement?

Bale's dived. Simple as that.

I do apologise, the only part I made up was I said left foot instead of right foot , although that was a mistake instead of a guenuine error.

The Scotland player who tripped him has came out and held his hands up but hey don't let that get in the way of your point.

[Hibstrooper]

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Well, thats utter nonsense. Maybe you should try actually watching he clip posted by Steve instead of making up stories to suit your arguement?

Bale's dived. Simple as that.

The referee and linesmen were absolutely terrible tonight. Just about every major decision they called wrong. Wales should have had a pen when Berra bearhugged the CF (What was he playing at there?!) Ramsey should have had a 2nd yellow for simulation. Scotland's goal should never have been chalked off and Bale tripped himself up to win a pen and should have had a 2nd yellow for simulation. Absolute shambles.

I also love how you can tell with 100% certainty that Maloney didn't touch Bale, you've got to love those transparent legs of Maloney that let you know that without any shadow of doubt he didn't touch him and the player admitting he did is just utter tripe too!

[CmoantheHibs]

Im with Hibstrooper on this one.Its a pen although unfortunate.Its only a slight touch from Maloney but without it Bale wouldnt have tripped.

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Well, thats utter nonsense. Maybe you should try actually watching he clip posted by Steve instead of making up stories to suit your arguement?

Bale's dived. Simple as that.

The referee and linesmen were absolutely terrible tonight. Just about every major decision they called wrong. Wales should have had a pen when Berra bearhugged the CF (What was he playing at there?!) Ramsey should have had a 2nd yellow for simulation. Scotland's goal should never have been chalked off and Bale tripped himself up to win a pen and should have had a 2nd yellow for simulation. Absolute shambles.

Spot on. Although I will say I can see why the ref awarded the penalty, cause at first glance it did look like he'd been tripped. But obviously the replays show that there was no contact at all.

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Im with Hibstrooper on this one.Its a pen although unfortunate.Its only a slight touch from Maloney but without it Bale wouldnt have tripped.

It was a penalty. Maloney got too close and just clipped Bale. It was a very slight contact, but a contact, and illegal, so a penalty.

The referee was eccentric to say the least, but IMO his complete ignoring of Idiot Berra's rugby tackle was cancelled out by his disallowing a perfectly good goal by Fletcher.

I can't see how anyone on the Scotland side can have any complaints, really - 90 minutes of Potter's trademark hoofball and the Welsh running rings round a non-existent midfield in the second half.

And the Tartan Army generally outsung by the Welsh ....

[Pete]

I haven't seen the game or any other incident from it but that's a definite penalty.

The Scotland number 6 runs right across his right leg as it was in the air...it wasn't just a clip. If you watch Bales right leg closely you will see the change of direction and the "kicking himself" was inevitable.

No complaints and certainly no dive.

edit: if you look closely the foul is committed by his right thigh...or maybe even the left!!

[Hibercelona]

I can't believe what i'm hearing and reading from some other people.

There was quite clearly "zero" contact.

Watch the clip, then watch it again, then watch it yet again, there was "no" contact whatsoever.

Footballs dead with decisions like that.

[Hibercelona]

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I haven't seen the game or any other incident from it but that's a definite penalty.

The Scotland number 6 runs right across his right leg as it was in the air...it wasn't just a clip. If you watch Bales right leg closely you will see the change of direction and the "kicking himself" was inevitable.

No complaints and certainly no dive.

edit: if you look closely the foul is committed by his right thigh...or maybe even the left!!

PS. I realize this one is a complete piss take.

[Pete]

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PS. I realize this one is a complete piss take.

I beg your pardon!

[SteveHFC]

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PS. I realize this one is a complete piss take.

[Pete]

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Are you a wee winker too?

[Hibercelona]

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I beg your pardon!

My apologies.

Just watched it for the 99th time and couldn't believe how I missed the obvious assault.

Amazed that Maloney stayed on the pitch after such a vicious attack.

[Pete]

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My apologies.

Just watched it for the 99th time and couldn't believe how I missed the obvious assault.

Amazed that Maloney stayed on the pitch after such a vicious attack.

Watch it when you are sober. If you are sober then watch it when you are actually awake.

Your assessment that it has to be an obvious "assault" to mean a penalty means you're not really up for debating the ins and outs of this incident.

I think you're the one taking the piss.