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    Who do you think .........

    Will drop out of the starting 11 should Fenlon decide to start our new signing Taiwo against ICT ?

    Now I am not advocating to change a winning team, question is purely hypothetical, IF Taiwo does get a start, who do you think will make way for him ?

    I think , should this happen, Wotherspoon, [who I think has had a good start to the season], will be the player sacrafised, with Cairney moved to right side of midfield and Taiwo on the left of Deegan and Claros.


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    Quote Originally Posted by eric.hibsfan View Post
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    Will drop out of the starting 11 should Fenlon decide to start our new signing Taiwo against ICT ?

    Now I am not advocating to change a winning team, question is purely hypothetical, IF Taiwo does get a start, who do you think will make way for him ?

    I think , should this happen, Wotherspoon, [who I think has had a good start to the season], will be the player sacrafised, with Cairney moved to right side of midfield and Taiwo on the left of Deegan and Claros.
    Taiwo isn't fit enough to start - he'll keep the same team, Griffiths aside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eric.hibsfan View Post
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    Will drop out of the starting 11 should Fenlon decide to start our new signing Taiwo against ICT ?

    Now I am not advocating to change a winning team, question is purely hypothetical, IF Taiwo does get a start, who do you think will make way for him ?

    I think , should this happen, Wotherspoon, [who I think has had a good start to the season], will be the player sacrafised, with Cairney moved to right side of midfield and Taiwo on the left of Deegan and Claros.
    Pretty much agree with this. Wotherspoon still makes to many stupid mistakes his crossing is still erratic. I like him though, and hope he progresses as a player and does well for us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stevie Reid View Post
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    Taiwo isn't fit enough to start - he'll keep the same team, Griffiths aside.
    Hope you are right, but there will come a time in the near future when Taiwo will be fit, and I am just wondering who will be dropped to accommodate him.

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    Wotherspoon will probably be the one to miss out as he has been a bit hit or miss this season, which will mean another central midfielder being played out wide. Would be nice to have at least one proper winger in the first team. Unsure if Taiwo is fit to start games yet though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eric.hibsfan View Post
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    Will drop out of the starting 11 should Fenlon decide to start our new signing Taiwo against ICT ?

    Now I am not advocating to change a winning team, question is purely hypothetical, IF Taiwo does get a start, who do you think will make way for him ?

    I think , should this happen, Wotherspoon, [who I think has had a good start to the season], will be the player sacrafised, with Cairney moved to right side of midfield and Taiwo on the left of Deegan and Claros.
    He won't not fit enough. Will be same as last 2 games if Sparky passed fit - only possibility of change would be Lewis for Spoony with Cairney on right from tactical point of view

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    Quote Originally Posted by down-the-slope View Post
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    He won't not fit enough. Will be same as last 2 games if Sparky passed fit - only possibility of change would be Lewis for Spoony with Cairney on right from tactical point of view
    Thought we were much weaker last week when that change was made and it was from that time that Killie started to get on top. Must admit I am not a fan of Stevenson out wide. Not great crosser, no goalscoring threat and no pace.

    I think Stevenson will have to fight for one of the central roles and will only get in the team if Claros leaves in January or due to injury to either of the central guys.

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    I'd like to see the formation mixed up a bit. We dont have many naturally gifted out and out wide players so i'd go for:

    Williams
    Clancy McPake Hanlon Maybury
    Cairney Deegan Taiwo
    Doyle Kuqi Griffiths

    A lot of people would consider Claros unlucky to miss out, but if Taiwo is the player we all hope he is, then Claros won't be missed. Kuqi if match fit is in there as a target man and think it would work well with Doyle and Griffiths feeding off him. Spoony is a good man to have to bring on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eric.hibsfan View Post
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    Hope you are right, but there will come a time in the near future when Taiwo will be fit, and I am just wondering who will be dropped to accommodate him.
    I think that you're right in that Wotherspoon's place is most in jeopardy, Pat has been very open about trying to acquire a winger and unfortunately things aren't working out for Spoony - I do think he has lots of ability, I've seen him do lots of good things in the past but he seems unable to put in a good 90 minutes, let along string a few good performances together. He has been ok when I've seen him this season, but I think we need better wide right if we are to keep improving - he would be a fine squad player IMO though.

    I made a point recently that it was good that Pat had gotten rid of the players whom the fans had no faith in, such as O'Hanlon and Stevens (and is not picking Kujabi) - whilst I don't think that the fans have no faith in Spoony, he's not being cut much slack and is prone to giving away silly fouls and being wasteful with his final ball, which doesn't help his cause. I must add that he has my full support any time he is picked.

    With regards to Taiwo, I think he is simply there as competition for one of the two midfield berths at the moment (remember we are losing Claros in January), and won't be brought in unless we play 5 in midfield. I think Fenlon's days of playing central midfielders (who clearly cannot adapt) in wide positions are behind him, thankfully - Spoony would have to play a hell of a lot worse to lose his position to someone, and if he did I believe that Cairney would go right but Stevenson would go on the left. But it would be under server circumstances I reckon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShanksSaidNo View Post
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    I'd like to see the formation mixed up a bit. We dont have many naturally gifted out and out wide players so i'd go for:

    Williams
    Clancy McPake Hanlon Maybury
    Cairney Deegan Taiwo
    Doyle Kuqi Griffiths

    A lot of people would consider Claros unlucky to miss out, but if Taiwo is the player we all hope he is, then Claros won't be missed. Kuqi if match fit is in there as a target man and think it would work well with Doyle and Griffiths feeding off him. Spoony is a good man to have to bring on.
    Our shape is excellent at the moment, and changing it through anything other than necessity would be madness IMO.

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    Your Starting XI v Caley

    Williams

    Clancy
    Mcpake
    Hanlon
    Maybury

    Wotherspoon
    Deegan
    Claros
    Cairney

    Kuqi
    Doyle

    subs:
    Antell
    McGivern
    Stevenson
    Taiwo
    Stanton
    Caldwell
    Handling

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    If fit Id say 10/11 are almost a sure thing - Im not certain Kuqi will start, we‘ll have more than enough for Caley anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by hfc rd View Post
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    Williams

    Clancy
    Mcpake
    Hanlon
    Maybury

    Wotherspoon
    Deegan
    Claros
    Cairney

    Kuqi
    Doyle

    subs:
    Antell
    McGivern
    Stevenson
    Taiwo
    Stanton
    Caldwell
    Handling
    If Leigh not fit as would apear to be the case then I agree with yer te and subs 100%

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    Williams
    Clancy McPake Hanlon Maybury
    W'spoon Claros Deegan Cairney
    Doyle Kuqi

    Subs: Antell, McGivern, Taiwo, Stevenson, Handling, Caldwell, Sproule

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    Don't think Kuqi will start. Swap Caldwell in and I think that would be my team.

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    Pretty simple for Pat I would think. Griffiths/Kuqi/Caldwell will be the only major decision he has to make.

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    Williams

    Clancy
    Mcpake
    Hanlon
    Maybury

    Stevenson
    Deegan
    Claros
    Cairney

    Kuqi
    Doyle

    subs:
    Antell
    McGivern
    Spoony
    Spoule
    Stanton
    Caldwell
    Handling

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    What's so pleasing this season is how easily the team picks itself. Really easy job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by down-the-slope View Post
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    Williams

    Clancy
    Mcpake
    Hanlon
    Maybury

    Stevenson
    Deegan
    Claros
    Cairney

    Kuqi
    Doyle

    subs:
    Antell
    McGivern
    Spoony
    Spoule
    Stanton
    Caldwell
    Handling

    That would be mine as well. Stevenson is more consistent than Spoony, and gives us more work ethic against what will probably be a scrapping five man midfield.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonny View Post
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    If fit Id say 10/11 are almost a sure thing - Im not certain Kuqi will start, we‘ll have more than enough for Caley anyway
    Easy tiger we can't say we have enough for anyone IMO we have started well but let's not get carried away. Hope the players don't go into the game with your attitude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jiggerman View Post
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    Don't think Kuqi will start. Swap Caldwell in and I think that would be my team.
    Yep, reckon Doyle and Caldwell to start. Or, if Kuqi does start, I'd imagine he'd be subbed on the hour for a younger pair of legs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jiggerman View Post
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    Don't think Kuqi will start. Swap Caldwell in and I think that would be my team.
    There's no way Caldwell will start before Kuqi he will replace Leigh if indeed he doesn't make it which I'm not sure he won't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibsbollah View Post
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    That would be mine as well. Stevenson is more consistent than Spoony, and gives us more work ethic against what will probably be a scrapping five man midfield.
    Stevenson is consistantly not good enough. Spoony's contributed enough this season to merit his place. Nothing against Stevenson, but we've been a better team without him in it.

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    Kugi in for Grithiffs only change is Grithiffs is injured. Don't change a winning team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wotherspiniesta View Post
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    Stevenson is consistantly not good enough. Spoony's contributed enough this season to merit his place. Nothing against Stevenson, but we've been a better team without him in it.
    I actually agree with you (was due I know), Spoony has still been poor IMO yet he would offer more going forward that Stephenson. Don't get me wrong I acknowledge the couple of assists DW has had this season but he's still been poor IMO, really frustrating as he does some really good things then fecks it up, like Ivan like crosses that end up in the stand. I don't think he deserves to be dropped for LS, just hope DW can prove me wrong just as Hanlon has done so far this season.

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    If LG not fit he will probably start Kuqi and bring on Caldwell to replace him after about an hour if he starts to run out of steam.

    Having said that LG does a lot of work outside the box and I would be willing to bet Kuqi isnt as mobile, so Cairney pushed further forward on the left or right might help. Apart from that I wouldnt change a winning team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMAXXA View Post
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    Easy tiger we can't say we have enough for anyone IMO we have started well but let's not get carried away. Hope the players don't go into the game with your attitude.
    We‘ve got more than enough for everybody this season - don‘t tell me you don‘t think we‘re going to win the league!

    13/10 at the bookies tomorrow - it‘s literally buying money

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    Really dinnae mean to be rude here but why the clamour for Caldwell to start ahead of Kuqi ?.. IIRC Caldwell came on against St.johnstone and tripped over his own feet and basically done nowt..


    If we are going by what he done in last season's youth team then you could argue Kuqi played in a much better level scoring 16 goals for Oldham.


    Id have Kuqi way ahead of Caldwell in the pecking order..Battering ram with a physical presence to knock chances down for Doyle.

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    How Claros has got the nod the past few weeks is totally beyond me. The game just passes him by every week. There's a player in there for sure but he just doesn't cut it for me during each game he plays in. Stevenson's fit again and should be in before 'the squirrel'. Other than that agree with the OP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HibbyAndy View Post
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    Really dinnae mean to be rude here but why the clamour for Caldwell to start ahead of Kuqi ?.. IIRC Caldwell came on against St.johnstone and tripped over his own feet and basically done nowt..


    If we are going by what he done in last season's youth team then you could argue Kuqi played in a much better level scoring 16 goals for Oldham.


    Id have Kuqi way ahead of Caldwell in the pecking order..Battering ram with a physical presence to knock chances down for Doyle.
    Agree totally, no use saying Kuqi isn't fit, he has been here for a few weeks now, been doing extra sessions, get him involved - even if he only lasts an hour it will be worth it. ICT are a big , physical team [especially back 4], and the cookie monster is just what we need to rumble them up. Whilst I think, given time Caldwell will be a good player, he is not ready to start games just yet.

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