David Stephens - red card for Wales U21

**IberianHibernian** · 15-08-2012 06:29 PM

Red card for Stephens after 6 minutes . Shouldn`t be tired for weekend though unlikely to play for us anyway I suppose .

***Northernhibee*** · 15-08-2012 07:03 PM

He'd make a good hatstand

**Wotherspiniesta** · 15-08-2012 07:42 PM

Couldn't have been for a dangerous tackle or violent conduct, doesn't have that in him.

That's where his downfall is IMO. Potentially a decent CB, but not enough fire in the belly and far too lethargic at times.

***3pm*** · 15-08-2012 07:53 PM

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Couldn't have been for a dangerous tackle or violent conduct, doesn't have that in him.

That's where his downfall is IMO. Potentially a decent CB, but not enough fire in the belly and far too lethargic at times.

It's the scran in his belly that's the problem.

***Baldy Foghorn*** · 15-08-2012 07:57 PM

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It's the scran in his belly that's the problem.

Stood next to him at one of games on tour, he ain't fat, he is however huge in terms of height and muscle. He is a big unit.....

Anyone know what red card was for?

**Hainan Hibs** · 15-08-2012 08:00 PM

Good man, showing courtesy by showing up while doing all he can to keep fresh for the hibees

**hibsbollah** · 15-08-2012 08:04 PM

I know hes had a few shockers but i still like the big guy and hope he comes into some form.

***3pm*** · 15-08-2012 08:06 PM

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Stood next to him at one of games on tour, he ain't fat, he is however huge in terms of height and muscle. He is a big unit.....

Anyone know what red card was for?

I am surprised at that.

**Gala Foxes** · 15-08-2012 08:11 PM

Maybe he was still trying to get his tackle in on the Huddersfield forward from 2 weeks ago - not that I am suggesting he is slow.............................................

***Baldy Foghorn*** · 15-08-2012 08:17 PM

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I know hes had a few shockers but i still like the big guy and hope he comes into some form.

I like him too, but he has concentration lapses, and is a bit immobile at times. I had hoped McPake might help him and talk him through matches, but PH/JM centre half pairing is what I would go with every time....

**SMAXXA** · 15-08-2012 08:29 PM

I think its pretty below the belt the slagging hes taking to be honest, hes a young Hibs player who hasnt had even half as many chances to impress as Hanlon or Wotherspoon yet when it comes to being critical of them after what 3 years some folk are right to their defence. Granted he had a shocker against UTD, but find it a bit harsh the slagging hes getting even when playing for his country.

Some of the comments you would think he plays for Hearts or sumit.

Tin hat at the ready.

***Baldy Foghorn*** · 15-08-2012 08:46 PM

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I think its pretty below the belt the slagging hes taking to be honest, hes a young Hibs player who hasnt had even half as many chances to impress as Hanlon or Wotherspoon yet when it comes to being critical of them after what 3 years some folk are right to their defence. Granted he had a shocker against UTD, but find it a bit harsh the slagging hes getting even when playing for his country.

Some of the comments you would think he plays for Hearts or sumit.

Tin hat at the ready.

Agree, as a support we are quick to jump on any negatives......DS has been written off by many.........

**Albion Hibs** · 15-08-2012 09:17 PM

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I know hes had a few shockers but i still like the big guy and hope he comes into some form.

I would agree with that, feel for him a bit to be honest. they season is two games old and I would imagine that his confidence has taken a beating already, not good for a younger player. Really hope he finds some form and has a role to play this season.

***Sean1875*** · 15-08-2012 09:42 PM

Wouldn't mind seeing him going out on loan for a few months, see how he does

**Brooster** · 15-08-2012 09:59 PM

Lets face it he is gash.

***Jonnyboy*** · 15-08-2012 10:00 PM

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I am surprised at that.

Me too. Whatever possessed David to stand next to Baldy?

***lucky*** · 15-08-2012 11:33 PM

For me he is not good enough. He's had loads of chances. Even in his good games he always loses concentration. I would get rid

**lEXO** · 15-08-2012 11:45 PM

I would get rid of him, Stevenson,Hanlon,Wetherspoon,Ivan,Doyle,Kujabi and loads of others. Get young guys in, then moan that they are crap. I,m getting sick of abusing the same guys. I want new victims.

***matty_f*** · 15-08-2012 11:49 PM

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Agree, as a support we are quick to jump on any negatives......DS has been written off by many.........

***London Hibs FC*** · 16-08-2012 12:15 AM

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I think its pretty below the belt the slagging hes taking to be honest, hes a young Hibs player who hasnt had even half as many chances to impress as Hanlon or Wotherspoon yet when it comes to being critical of them after what 3 years some folk are right to their defence. Granted he had a shocker against UTD, but find it a bit harsh the slagging hes getting even when playing for his country.

Some of the comments you would think he plays for Hearts or sumit.

Tin hat at the ready.

I can't disagree with you there, he has all the physical attributes to excel in his chosen position and I'd love for him to do well for us but the laddie quite simply plays like he's stoned

**~~Hibercelona~~** · 16-08-2012 12:23 AM

I can understand players having a couple of shockers, but Stephens hasn't shown the slightest glimpse of footballing ability.

He's a big built lad, but he isn't a footballer.

I'm getting tired of waiting for players to "come good". I want to see quality straight from the start.

***Viva_Palmeiras*** · 16-08-2012 12:45 AM

"I'm getting tired of waiting for players to "come good". I want to see quality straight from the start."

So how do we develop as a club from within rather than buying in quality (not done too well on that recently)

**dangermouse** · 16-08-2012 06:48 AM

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"I'm getting tired of waiting for players to "come good". I want to see quality straight from the start."

So how do we develop as a club from within rather than buying in quality (not done too well on that recently)

I think the suggestion of putting him out on load is a good one. There is a footballer in there somewhere its just a case of coaxing it out. A season on load at a lower division should bring him on. Its worked before for other young players so why not with Denzil?

***JimBHibees*** · 16-08-2012 07:41 AM

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Lets face it he is gash.

That would be my view harsh though that is. Kind of hoping some of the other younger centre halfs start improving and are pushing for places.

**PeterboroHibee** · 16-08-2012 08:00 AM

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I think the suggestion of putting him out on load is a good one. There is a footballer in there somewhere its just a case of coaxing it out. A season on load at a lower division should bring him on. Its worked before for other young players so why not with Denzil?

I suppose its due to a real lack of squad depth, but Id like to see us sending out more of the young players on loan (and not just when theyve made the step up from the younger squads). This is their third season in the first team for the likes of Stephens and Booth, and neither of them have played much football. How are they meant to progress?

Both them should be out on a 6 month/season long loan deal imo, where they will be playing week in, week out, and really getting the opportunity to try and prove themselves. We can always include a recall clause if we pick up injuries.

***J-C*** · 16-08-2012 08:17 AM

I don't think he'll be here very long, obviously showed something in training but bottled it when it came to the real game, now a sending off after 6 mins for his country, div 1 or English lower div 1/div 2 is his level.

***Northernhibee*** · 16-08-2012 11:42 AM

I'd love to see him do well, but I really just can't see a way that he is an SPL defender at this point. Maybe he needs to drop a league and be a big fish in a small pond for a bit before moving back up. For me he lacks strength of character; if things are going well he's fine but if he makes one mistake he'll go on to make three or four more in the course of a game.

Hope he can turn it around though.

**~~Iggy Pope~~** · 16-08-2012 06:30 PM

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Stood next to him at one of games on tour, he ain't fat, he is however huge in terms of height and muscle. He is a big unit.....

Anyone know what red card was for?

Was this in the Easyjet queue at Brussels? Can put a face to a pseudonym now!