Motherwell statement favours Newco, but now letting fans vote (merged)

[lyonhibs]

..... all in a pretty line, wrapped up in bumph and dubious figures.

http://www.motherwellfc.co.uk/2012/0...ewco%E2%80%99/

Any other clubs put up similarly mealy mouthed releases yet?

I assume the results of the vote will be made public?

GGTTH

[Littlest Hobo]

In short they have to work out what decision of the two will least effect them financially.

It's not about that, it's about doing what's right. FFS!!

Self interest is all that the clubs are interested in, does my ****in nut in.

I'm seriously thinking about walking away from Scottish fitba, what a bunch of shysters!

[Sir David Gray]

They really could have made that statement a lot shorter by just saying something along the lines of;

Dear suckers

Just to let you know, we will be voting in favour of The Rangers playing in the SPL next season, despite the fact that the vast majority of you who have been in touch with the club in recent weeks and months over this issue have consistently informed us that you did not wish to see this happen.

Yours

Sell-outs

[Pretty Boy]

Shame.

I always enjoyed an away trip to Motherwell.

[LancashireHibby]

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Shame.

I always enjoyed an away trip to Motherwell.

Same here. Hope they enjoy the Hun pound.

[givescotlandfreedom]

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Shame.

I always enjoyed an away trip to Motherwell.

I won't be back either.

[SteveHFC]

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Shame.

I always enjoyed an away trip to Motherwell.

Same. I thought their pies were quite decent

[ancient hibee]

What beats me is that a couple of years ago Rangers would have happily walked off into the sunset with Celtic to England without a backward look at the SPL and yet clubs are crawling up their backsides.Obviously if the votes ever come out those that vote in favour of Rangers will get no more visits from me-it's the only way to make them pay.

[Gatecrasher]

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I won't be back either.

Same, One of the closest away grounds to me as well.

[blackpoolhibs]

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What beats me is that a couple of years ago Rangers would have happily walked off into the sunset with Celtic to England without a backward look at the SPL and yet clubs are crawling up their backsides.Obviously if the votes ever come out those that vote in favour of Rangers will get no more visits from me-it's the only way to make them pay.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/footbal...6908-21751069/

[Mon Dieu4]

Looks like their directors might stitch up the fan based well society before they have a say in it

[Westie1875]

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..... all in a pretty line, wrapped up in bumph and dubious figures.

http://www.motherwellfc.co.uk/2012/0...l-and-‘newco’/

Any other clubs put up similarly mealy mouthed releases yet?

I assume the results of the vote will be made public?

GGTTH

Wow, that is an embarrassment. They may as well just have written "the money from newco's fans is more important than our own supporters", no need for the rest as this is basically what it says.

[DaveF]

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Same, One of the closest away grounds to me as well.

Me too. Always went to Fir Park due to being the closest away ground, but they can forget my £20+

[Cabbage East]

Dear supporters,

Money>you.

Catch yis.


No more away trips to Motherwell for me.

[Pretty Boy]

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Wow, that is an embarrassment. They may as well just have written "the money from newco's fans is more important than our own supporters", no need for the rest as this is basically what it says.

Exactly.

I sincerely hope they run out to a completely empty away stand when they play all the clubs who do the right thing next season and beyond.

A statement like that makes it clear they value money above all so hit them in the pocket.

[IWasThere2016]

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..... all in a pretty line, wrapped up in bumph and dubious figures.

http://www.motherwellfc.co.uk/2012/0...ewco%E2%80%99/

Any other clubs put up similarly mealy mouthed releases yet?

I assume the results of the vote will be made public?

GGTTH

I am sure I read the vote would not be revealed for fears of retribution. I am starting to think the Chairmen will want a compromise with Rangers which avoids a vote altogether.

[3pm]

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I am sure I read the vote would not be revealed for fears of retribution. I am starting to think the Chairmen will want a compromise with Rangers which avoids a vote altogether.

Such as?

[Sylar]

A quick perusal of the Motherwell forums show they're absolutely livid about this and will take the decision to walk away.

Could be a very quiet SPL next year if Rangers get the sufficient number of votes.

[PatHead]

Must admit I didn't read it as a yes vote.

More an appeal for supporters to understand the financial problems and an appeal to buy season tickets. The last line "it is vital that we continue to work together as a club to enable us to emerge from the current SPL difficulties with our integrity and optimism intact.” the reference to integrity and there is only one vote which they can take to keep this intact.

[Onion]

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Looks like their directors might stitch up the fan based well society before they have a say in it

With a lot fewer away fans and pissing off their own fans, I can see crowds of 1000 attending their home games in the not too distant future. Let's hear their Directors defend that !

[Sir David Gray]

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Must admit I didn't read it as a yes vote.

More an appeal for supporters to understand the financial problems and an appeal to buy season tickets. The last line "it is vital that we continue to work together as a club to enable us to emerge from the current SPL difficulties with our integrity and optimism intact.” the reference to integrity and there is only one vote which they can take to keep this intact.

It's not just this statement though.

They have released a couple of statements on this issue now and they've all been alluding to the fact that they're almost certainly going to be voting "yes".

[Onion]

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I am sure I read the vote would not be revealed for fears of retribution. I am starting to think the Chairmen will want a compromise with Rangers which avoids a vote altogether.

If ever there was a case of being "in the public interest", the transparency of the SPL vote is it. This is not about people dying or being victimised, it is about people making an informed decision on how to spend their money and Saturday afternoons. We have an absolute right to know if this league is corrupt and totally without sporting integrity.

Maybe Leveson will be looking for new job to get his teeth into shortly ?

[Last Minute]

we should all stay away from any ground that votes yes

[PatHead]

Think the Motherwell statement is stronger than the St Mirren one and they are meant to be voting no!

The Board of Directors as well as all other St Mirren supporters totally understands the sense of injustice felt at this time instigated by the way in which another club in our League has conducted their affairs.Once all the facts are available to the Board of Directors, they shall take any decisions that are required, in the best interests of St Mirren Football Club only as their guiding line.
The Scottish Football Authorities and Commercial partners, over which we have limited control, have many decisions to make prior to our Board making any valued appraisal.
The Board have a responsibility to make the correct decision for St Mirren Football Club and as Directors of the Company, they have done so over a long period of time, this policy shall continue during this difficult period for Scottish Football.

[jamieross]

I dont know if this is related to the 'newco' argument or not, just saw it mentioned on twitter before

http://www.saintmirren.net/pages/?p=13244

[3pm]

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we should all stay away from any ground that votes yes

What if Hearts vote 'yes'?

[Steve20]

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we should all stay away from any ground that votes yes

I understand a lot of people will. However, I enjoy a trip to Motherwell for the football and won't deny myself it on the chance that Rangers might be in the league.

[Offside Trap]

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Must admit I didn't read it as a yes vote.

More an appeal for supporters to understand the financial problems and an appeal to buy season tickets. The last line "it is vital that we continue to work together as a club to enable us to emerge from the current SPL difficulties with our integrity and optimism intact.” the reference to integrity and there is only one vote which they can take to keep this intact.

That's how I read it too. I think this is a candid statement from MFC seeking to articulate the moral vs financial dilemma facing most of the clubs. Just like the rest of us, football clubs have bills to pay and financial commitments to honour.

What would help enormously at the moment is a statement from Sky setting out their position. From a Corporate Responsibility/PR perspective, are they really going to renege on a contract because steps have been taken by authorities to punish underlying failure to pay tax and cheating? That doesn't sit particularly comfortably with the following from Sky's own Ways of Working Statement:

"We expect everyone we do business with to deliver
a high-quality service and provide good value for
money, as well as maintain the highest ethical
standards and comply with all relevant laws and
regulations (including, for example, compliance
with data protection, bribery and environmental
legislation). These are the criteria we assess
when we tender contracts and award business
to suppliers."

[Onion]

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A quick perusal of the Motherwell forums show they're absolutely livid about this and will take the decision to walk away.

Could be a very quiet SPL next year if Rangers get the sufficient number of votes.

I can't think of one other thing, other than perhaps the National Team (in the good old days), uniting fans of different clubs more than this. It's astonishing that SFA, SPL and our own clubs have not pre-empted the vote and just said "F*** it we're not going to let these cheating shysters into our league, we're better than that".The fact that we're STILL waiting speaks volumes for the quality of the people we have in charge of our national sport.

And have you noticed how quiet all the politicians have been. If there were votes to be had here, they would have been all over this farce. Running scared sh*tless.

[SloopJB]

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..... all in a pretty line, wrapped up in bumph and dubious figures.

http://www.motherwellfc.co.uk/2012/06/18/club-statement-–-spl-and-‘newco’/

Any other clubs put up similarly mealy mouthed releases yet?

I assume the results of the vote will be made public?

GGTTH

This should be sent to all of the clubs with a message that while it's refreshing to at last have official statements, this one merely adds to the plethora of assumptions already circulating regarding the situation faced by Rangers and the SPL.
It's disappointing to see that clubs have a decision to make based on what the club feels is the best for them rather than based on clear factual evidence.

The released statement implies that the situation is complicated.
It's not, It's simple.
Is there a route into the SPL for a club member who has been liquidated and what is the consequence of that decision.
'Yes' and the club retains the place as well as everything else that goes with the old team.
'No' and the club has no link with the old team.

This would be the case for any club liquidated.


To base any decision on your own clubs financial income is itself an affront to sporting integrity.