GOC guilty of cocaine possesion and obstructing police.

[Baw Baggio]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...-fife-17940505

Not the best timing....

[ozzie]

Think thats bad timing, is his drugs charge not the week before the final?

[TamHibs]

Let's hope he goes out on a high then......


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[Jamesie]

I'm more concerned by the drugs trial which has been reported as being set down for 13 May - as that's a Sunday I presume it's actually 14 May - five days away from the Cup Final. I see former Partick Thistle manager Gerry Britton - now a lawyer - represented Garry at the Intermediate Diet in that matter in Edinburgh Sheriff Court yesterday and he requested a further hearing before trial - that's a bit tight for a 13 May trial diet so hopefully this too is bumped until after the Cup Final.

[Winston Ingram]

Nearly £100k attempted fraud? Sounds like jail time to me if found guilty...

[chrisski33]

Date in the report says 24th may not 14th

[hibee]

I'm just hoping he's up on a charge for walking naked along Princes Street that week too!

[mjh]

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Nearly £100k attempted fraud? Sounds like jail time to me if found guilty...

so what do cw and sdm get for £134m ?

[Winston Ingram]

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so what do cw and sdm get for £134m ?

Absolutely SFA

[Jack Ferrigan]

Garry O'Connor scores a hat trick in the Scottish Cup Final and is awarded the freedom of the City from The Lord Provost Of Edinburgh.

Well might as well make a right good day of it ...yes?

[ozzie]

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Date in the report says 24th may not 14th

yeah for the fraud case, looks like his drugs case is the 14th.

[Ultrabee1-0]

how long is he looking at?

[JohnStephens91]

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how long is he looking at?

I can't find the Scottish Justice System's sentencing for a crime for fraud, but English and Welsh fraud of between £20,000 and £100,000 can be aywhere as little as 12 weeks or as high as 5 years depending on the severity of the attempted fraud and a whole host of other factors. We should all just hope that there is a loophole that bans Scottish Cup winners from serving jail time.

[StevieC]

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I can't find the Scottish Justice System's sentencing for a crime for fraud, but English and Welsh fraud of between £20,000 and £100,000 can be aywhere as little as 12 weeks or as high as 5 years depending on the severity of the attempted fraud and a whole host of other factors. We should all just hope that there is a loophole that bans Scottish Cup winners from serving jail time.

A custodial sentence is possible but the judge will also weigh up all the other factors, including cost to society, potential to re-offend, background reports, etc. before he reaches his conclusion.
In this case, with all the factors involved, I suspect that it is likely to be a heavy fine than the burden on society of a custodial sentence.

[HIBEES 4 LIFE]

His drugs court case has been adjourned until May 13th......he was arrested on May 14th

[frazeHFC]

I thought it was meaning Michael O'Connor on trial at us....

[Pretty Boy]

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A custodial sentence is possible but the judge will also weigh up all the other factors, including cost to society, potential to re-offend, background reports, etc. before he reaches his conclusion.
In this case, with all the factors involved, I suspect that it is likely to be a heavy fine than the burden on society of a custodial sentence.

This.

Although assuming he is found guilty, his continued plea of not guilty won't sit well with the court.

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This.

Although assuming he is found guilty, his continued plea of not guilty won't sit well with the court.

He's entitled to be assumed innocent until proven guilty. And the court really shouldn't turn vindictive just because his counsel decides to mount a defence, even a defence of extenuating circumstances. We're supposedly all entitled to our day in court, not just roll over whne the police arrive to arrest us. (That's the theory, anyway.)

He doesn't strike me as a criminal mastermind - or as the sort of violent or manipulative predator who needs to be locked away for the safety of other people. The guy needs to take a tumble to himself and get his life sorted out. How he does that is his responsibility, but the strain of the ongoing legal process is obviously telling on him.

TBH, I would say that he's entitled to be a lot more concerned about the outcome of those trials than about what the score is at the end of the Cup Final, since he could be facing jail time. IIRC both charges were on the books before Hibs signed him back last summer, so we knew what we were taking on.

I suppose we DIDN'T expect to be in the Cup Final back then, though.

For myself, I wish him well in both his court appearances, and I really hope he manages to come through all this, sort things out, and then hit the headlines and news websites for all the right reasons in the months to come. He's a young man - 28 years old - and he surely still has time to make a real mark in the game.

[Phil MaGlass]

Really is time for him to wake up and smell the coffee, he has to grow up, seems its a thing alot of players cant do. 28 a chance to put himself in the shop window, only a couple of years left for him, he should be wising up.


Garry O'Connor, SCOTTISH CUP WINNER 2012, GERINTAETHUM.

[madabouthibs]

A big factor in sentencing, if found guilty of course, will be the difference between an attempted fraud, and actually committing fraud. I'm no legal eagle, but I'd imagine the latter is much more serious.

[BarneyK]

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Could set up a new O'Connor and transfer the striker into it leaving the old O'Connor to face trial and re merge the two after any sentence has expired?

Sorted!

[silverhibee]

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This.

Although assuming he is found guilty, his continued plea of not guilty won't sit well with the court.

And also during that time him and his lawyers have messed the courts about too, infact i don't even think there will be trial's for the fraud or drug cases, i have said it for a while now but GOC defence team have done a great job in getting these cases put back for almost a year to the end of the season, job done imo, the only thing they probably didn't account for would be there client and his club getting to a Scottish Cup Final.

On the day of the trials it wouldn't surprise me that GOC changed his plea to guilty and his lawyer trying to strike some kind of deal with the PF(no not our manager), for some of the charges to be reduced in both cases, if that was the outcome then as you say i don't think any judge will take to kindly to the courts being mucked about the way they have been, yes people are allowed to maintain that they are innocent and plead Not Guilty, but the judges are not daft and have seen this trick pulled many times before and when it finally comes down to sentencing then the judge may just set an example on GOC, the fraud case, a massive fine with Probation and so many hours of Community work, the drug case, probably the big man will spend his summer in the big hoose with the hope of a move to an open Prison and then out with a tag around his ankle, still should be out in time for the new season starting though.

[easty]

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Could set up a new O'Connor and transfer the striker into it leaving the old O'Connor to face trial and re merge the two after any sentence has expired?

[Hibernia Na Eir]

if this were a Yam player it wouldn't be hanging over their head pre-final. Guaranteed.

typical.
is the judge not a diet hun? think he is.
think Garry would happily go down if it meant getting hands on that bit silver.

[Dashing Bob S]

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I can't find the Scottish Justice System's sentencing for a crime for fraud, but English and Welsh fraud of between £20,000 and £100,000 can be aywhere as little as 12 weeks or as high as 5 years depending on the severity of the attempted fraud and a whole host of other factors. We should all just hope that there is a loophole that bans Scottish Cup winners from serving jail time.

There is, but unfortunately it only applies to Huns.

[LeithBoozy]

You would have all charges rounded-up together Garry, so go straight through Black in the first minute in the final and paint Hampden red.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

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Nearly £100k attempted fraud? Sounds like jail time to me if found guilty...

The Gers board must be in allsorts then!

[Ultrabee1-0]

Let's hope its not a yam judge eh

[neilmartinrocks]

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Let's hope its not a yam judge eh

did the judge no' fess up tae bein' a yam at the hearing?

[Steven_Hibs]

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did the judge no' fess up tae bein' a yam at the hearing?

yep