Fenlon well done

[Green Cabbage 7]

Well done pat patched a poor team up kept us up and got to the final! I'm proud of what you managed and hope to see your own built team next season! I think we will be in good shape next season come on the hibs! Oh and us the supporters get out there show your colours and show we really are supporters who in the face of defeat will still be counted!

[gbur123ukgb]

just about to go out shopping ive got my hibs top and shorts on dont really care what the jambgos say hail hail

[bighairyfaeleith]

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just about to go out shopping ive got my hibs top and shorts on dont really care what the jambgos say hail hail

shorts as well, seriously bad fashion dude even if it is the hibs strip

[heretoday]

If Hibs can get to the cup final with a team like that after the season they've had there is hope.
Provided Fenlon is allowed some cash to build his side, maybe Hibs can win the cup next time..

[Ozyhibby]

Our results got worse after Fenlon arrived but don't let that get in the way of blind loyalty. Luckily the pars were so bad that there was no way we could get relegated.

[Captain Trips]

The season we have had is down to PF in no small part. He saved us from a relegation he was involved in putting us in. Easy to blame CC but PF was backed in January made some changes and yet still we battled until 2/3 games to go. Absolutley CC left a mess but PF IMO has made very little difference.

CC was left a mess by Yogi and yet his 3/4 of a season was not seen as very good yet PF seems to have more support for basically doing as badly. Tactics can be fixed a lot faster than the team and he is still found wanting 6 months later.

[Hibby 2005]

I've already stated that next season, with his signings, will prove his worth (or not).

The worrying thing about the Final was that he failed to motivate the side before or during the game.

[Hibercelona]

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The season we have had is down to PF in no small part. He saved us from a relegation he was involved in putting us in. Easy to blame CC but PF was backed in January made some changes and yet still we battled until 2/3 games to go. Absolutley CC left a mess but PF IMO has made very little difference.

CC was left a mess by Yogi and yet his 3/4 of a season was not seen as very good yet PF seems to have more support for basically doing as badly. Tactics can be fixed a lot faster than the team and he is still found wanting 6 months later.

No tactics were ever going to work with a shower like that.

We can't blame Fenlon for the current state we are in. He needs to have a proper go at this.

Patching up a team of wasters with a few short term loan players was never going to produce pretty results.

[Hibercelona]

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I've already stated that next season, with his signings, will prove his worth (or not).

The worrying thing about the Final was that he failed to motivate the side before or during the game.

Unfortunately you can't motivate people who are incapable of motivating themselves.

This lot don't know what it means to feel motivated and up for the challanege.

We need to give Fenlon a chance to bring in players that will understand.

[danhibees1875]

He had 1 objective, he achieved that.

I think PF would -wrongly- be getting more credit on here if we'd won an aberdeen league game rather than the cup game and avoided relegation by an extra week and didn't play the final.

He done what was asked this season, now lets see what he can do over the summer and where he takes us next season.

[Hibby 2005]

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Unfortunately you can't motivate people who are incapable of motivating themselves.

This lot don't know what it means to feel motivated and up for the challanege.

We need to give Fenlon a chance to bring in players that will understand.

They were motivated against Aberdeen but Hearts were a different proposition. It was up to Fenlon to change the mindset of the Hibs players who looked beat before the game even started.

[The Harp Awakes]

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Well done pat patched a poor team up kept us up and got to the final! I'm proud of what you managed and hope to see your own built team next season! I think we will be in good shape next season come on the hibs! Oh and us the supporters get out there show your colours and show we really are supporters who in the face of defeat will still be counted!

Fenlon said after the game on Saturday that there is an attitude problem at the Club and there has been for a while. He was absolutely right. He said he will get rid of it and I believe he will if we give him time and the Club backs him financially. I was really pleased with his post-match interview on Saturday - how many Managers in that position would have made excuses about the game and blamed the ref? There was no doubt he was raging but he took responsibility for the result and performance. Speaks volumes for the man.

Hibs have been a soft touch since Collins walked. Yogi knew it and couldn't change it and the appointment of CC was a disaster - his motivation skills were zero and there is no doubt in my mind we were heading for relegation to the 1st division under his tenure.

Fenlon had to make short term signings in January to keep us up and has done that. He deserves the opportunity to improve the team next season. Changing Manager now would be a disaster for the Club. SAF would have a job on his hands sorting out this mess.

[Hibernian Verse]

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just about to go out shopping ive got my hibs top and shorts on dont really care what the jambgos say hail hail

Had my Hibs top on yesterday, albeit in Aberdeen. One or two smiles on the way to Spar but all in good banter.

[SlickShoes]

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The season we have had is down to PF in no small part. He saved us from a relegation he was involved in putting us in. Easy to blame CC but PF was backed in January made some changes and yet still we battled until 2/3 games to go. Absolutley CC left a mess but PF IMO has made very little difference.

CC was left a mess by Yogi and yet his 3/4 of a season was not seen as very good yet PF seems to have more support for basically doing as badly. Tactics can be fixed a lot faster than the team and he is still found wanting 6 months later.

Aye he was backed in January but look at the type of players available in January, it's failures or people coming back from long term injury.

He was sensible to bring in 7 loan players because now we can ship all of them out if we need to, if we had brought in 7 players on 2 year deals we would now be stuck with them.

[iwasthere1972]

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Had my Hibs top on yesterday, albeit in Aberdeen. One or two smiles on the way to Spar but all in good banter.

No class.

[ALF TUPPER]

Agreed. Fenners did what he was asked to do. We stayed in the SPL. Job Done.


Saturday was a Brucie bonus and while it hursts like hell to lose to that mob, so convinvingly, it will benefit us financially for next season. And for me, its what PF can do with a preseason and full season with whoever he keeps and can bring in.

Glory Glory always

[Posh Swanny]

I said in January that I hope Fenlon lasts until the summer because it was clear that he didn't want to make any permanent signings in a panic and continue the shambolic recruitment policy of the last few years. He knew the current squad was pish so just took whatever he could on loan to keep us out of the drop zone. Many a manager has panicked, failed and then been left with no room to manoeuvre when the real job starts in the summer. Pat's only real problem is that he managed to take that patchwork rabble to a cup final. Should have got put out by Killie and saved us from all this silliness. ;)

Funds permittng - and that is my only real concern - this summer will see a Hibernian team come together that we can all be proud of once again. It's been long enough.

[HFC07]

im loving the optimism on this thread guys

I agree Fenlon has done well to keep a piss poor side in the league and take us to a final.

some rebuilding needed, petrie the very least you can do is give pat the money to make some drastic changes.

:pfgwa

[marleyhib]

Well said OP, Pat kept us up - January is not the time to be buying players, inflated prices and not much quality available.

He did the only sensible thing he could which was sign loan players. Still think the Motherwell game where the place went on fire when we were winning right after he was appointed was really unlucky, if we'd gone on to win it might have given us a bit of confidence. Instead he had a really bad start and a really difficult run of games. He's been under real pressure from the start.

We have been easily outclassed by the top 6 all season (we didn't get any of them in the cup till the final), Hearts in the final was always going to be tuff.

The atmosphere at Easter Road has been shocking this season, the players always looked nervous - we didn't get behind the team when they needed us most. We've been mince since we built the new east and widened the pitch, whilst Easter Road is great it's half empty and is not intimidating. It's now a real catch 22 situation, we need bigger crowds to create an atmosphere but to get them we need decent football.

Pat badly needs the funds to put a decent team on the park.

[Sudds_1]

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just about to go out shopping ive got my hibs top and shorts on dont really care what the jambgos say hail hail

hmm.......... fashion alert I think here mate

[BoltonHibee]

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hmm.......... fashion alert I think here mate

Hope he is wearing the shin pads too

[big-mo]

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Our results got worse after Fenlon arrived but don't let that get in the way of blind loyalty. Luckily the pars were so bad that there was no way we could get relegated.

Not taking sides but -

Pre-Fenlon Played 19 w5 l9 d5 win% 26.31
Fenlon played 27 w9 l14 d4 win% 33.33

[gbur123ukgb]

haha aye fashion alert but you've no seen ma legs ;) whit woooooo
might add ma hat n scarf to the ensemble!

[joe breezy]

I agree, Fenlon did enough to keep us up....

As soon as Hearts beat Celtic I stopped looking forward to the final...

I would still have some faith in him even though tactics on Saturday could have been better

[Captain Trips]

It is all about what his objectives actually where and I doubt it was finish 11th and thats ok. I was looking for more than what he did and he bought garbage McPake aside in January. We avoided a rekegation that he put us in. I know it is difficult in January to get olayers but he put his faith in some that still had us struggling. It seems because PF is 10x more commited than CC he has got away with more. PF after 6 months should have players at least capable of closibg down surely.

[SneakersO'Toole]

It would be utter madness to sack Fenlon and would only see to us being in the same position in 12months time. The club is crying out for some continuity so that a manager have put his stamp on the club, both on the playing side and overall culture.

Fenlon's post match comments on Saturday were refreshing and offered some, albeit very little, comfort to our situation. He knows that this club has been infected with a malaise that it needs to eradicate ASAP.

The only question mark is whether the board will give him the trust, control and financial backing to do so.

[grunt]

Liam McLeod ‏@BBCLiamMcLeod#Hibernian mamager Pat Fenlon issued with a notice of complaint by the SFA after he was sent from the technical area at Hampden on Saturday

[gbur123ukgb]

watch fenlon will get hammered worse than lennon for this.

[Fergus52]

Can't believe how quick people are having a go at him.

He's got the highest win percentage as a jibs manager since Collins ffs.

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Can't believe how quick people are having a go at him.

He's got the highest win percentage as a jibs manager since Collins ffs.

Not quick at having a go, firstly I do not for 1 minute accept his job was to just keep us up I will assume as others have that he was asked to get us up as high as he could. In January he then had a fantastic advantage to bring in some fresh faces as after all we have been hearing how crap CCs guys where and it would be great to get rid and bring in new folk.

No these guys were not brought in to have us avoid relegation these guys were brought in to push us up table, Kujabi, Doyle and Claros all signed into next season proving PF was not only trying to secure a good finish but also have some continuity for next season. Unfortunatly he got 3 or 4 of them wrong and 2 of them were the worst culptits on Saturday but are on the books still for next year.

We finished 2nd bottom not just because of CC but becuase PF in January failed to sign enough good players and because he all the way through and up until Sunday seems to struggle to have players do the very basic of things, 2 of which he put faith in for next season too.

I think PF deserves no thanks, if after 6 months he cannot yet still get folk to close players how long does he need to have us winning regularly? He IMO has showed spirit and desire but been found wanting on the pitch, his record deserves no thanks.