Anyone hear him on real radio? Was speaking about Sporting integrity*and said Petrie has a cheek about goin on about it after what happened with him! Still sounds bitter!
Results 1 to 30 of 75
Thread: John Collins
-
16-05-2012 05:38 PM #1
John Collins
-
16-05-2012 05:42 PM #2
As much as it is clear that Petrie didn't handle that situation well, I fail to see how the two issues are connected.
-
16-05-2012 05:48 PM #3This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
"I did not need any persuasion to play for such a great club, the Hibs result is still one of the first I look for"
Sir Matt Busby
-
16-05-2012 05:54 PM #4
Way to get behind the team, John.
Douchebag. As already stated, the two issues aren't even related. Not even close.
-
16-05-2012 06:19 PM #5
Not sure how there is a connection between his time at Hibs and the current situation regarding rangers and Petrie's statement.
FWIW ... I will remember John Collins as the man who won the League Cup with Mowbrays team and the manager who weeks later failed to get the best team we have had for 20 years past a bog standard Dunfermline team and into a final against the poorest celtic team for a decade ... talk about a missed chance.
I will also remember him as a man who didnt have the bottle to prove himself as a manager by making the best of a small budget.
Most of the great managers have started out by making a silk purse out of a sows ear. Ferguson, McLean, Stein et al.
Not by walking away like a whiny bitch coz it looked like the going was getting tough.
As a football manager Mr Collins is currently residing in the where are they now file.
-
16-05-2012 06:30 PM #6
- Join Date
- Apr 2012
- Posts
- 110
He is knob!
This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
-
17-05-2012 09:04 AM #7This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
As per the bit in bold, if Collins won the cup with Mowbray's team (Mowbray couldn't win a cup with Mowbray's team) would it not also then be Mowbrays team that bottled it against Dunfermline? Or was it Mowbrays team when we won, and Collins team when we lost?
I'd have him Collins, with an assistant to help him, not Tomm Caig, back in a heartbeat. A fit, organised team with a manager who understands and actualy applies tactics. That's all I ask.
-
17-05-2012 09:22 AM #8This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Or Boozy at Centre half against the Hun?
Or a formation so shambolic against Celtic at ER that he had to hook Lewis after 15 mins?
Collins won us a cup, I'll always be glad for that. I always thought him a man of true sporting value and integrety and even if he's right, he should keep quiet.
-
17-05-2012 09:30 AM #9
Needs to let this go. If he was in any more denial about his role in what happened, he would be a stick on for a job at Ibrox
-
17-05-2012 10:03 AM #10
I just scrubbed my reply to all this as I don't want to start big arguements amongst ourselves at this important time in our history.
Suffice to say though I am a J.C. fan
GGTTH
-
17-05-2012 10:03 AM #11This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
-
17-05-2012 10:05 AM #12This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
-
17-05-2012 10:13 AM #13This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Or Murphy in at DM, keeping Scott Brown in his back pocket in a home win over Celtic.
The point is, he wasn't afraid to try things, and was excellent at reading a game and reacting. Rather than the succession of managers we've had who would wait until we conceded before reacting, which by then the game was gone.
I am an interested spectator at how he gets on at Livi, doing the job I feel he should have been doing at us. Be it as manager or in some other capacity, Director Of Youth Development or some such.
-
17-05-2012 10:14 AM #14This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Aye, quite right, get him back so we can see a goalkeeper who's never allowed to kick the ball upfield as he always has to play from the back
Get him back so we can see a 5 foot guy weighing 7 stone in a wet duffel coat play centre half against the Sheep
Aye, let's get him back, I mean harmony in the dressing room is the last thing we want
-
17-05-2012 10:45 AM #15This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
-
17-05-2012 11:04 AM #16This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
-
17-05-2012 11:10 AM #17This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
He walked away because he couldn't get his own way on a number of things, for me he acted like a spoilt brat.
Nobody can take away his cup win, one of the best days of my life and for that i will be eternally grateful.
Whats he doing now with all this untaped football genius he has?
-
17-05-2012 11:20 AM #18This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
He's currently at Livi, in a Director of Football/Youth Development capacity. Personaly, I feel livi's gain is very much our loss.
-
17-05-2012 11:27 AM #19This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I knew he was at Livi, you must be surprised he's not at a major Premiership club, me personally i'm surprised he's at Livi, and fully expect him to walk out sometime next season if they are not romping the 1st division.
-
17-05-2012 11:27 AM #20
[QUOTE=BOVRIL;3229412]Not sure how there is a connection between his time at Hibs and the current situation regarding rangers and Petrie's statement.
FWIW ... I will remember John Collins as the man who won the League Cup with Mowbrays team and the manager who weeks later failed to get the best team we have had for 20 years past a bog standard Dunfermline team and into a final against the poorest celtic team for a decade ... talk about a missed chance.
I will also remember him as a man who didnt have the bottle to prove himself as a manager by making the best of a small budget.
Most of the great managers have started out by making a silk purse out of a sows ear. Ferguson, McLean, Stein et al.
Not by walking away like a whiny bitch coz it looked like the going was getting tough.
As a football manager Mr Collins is currently residing in the where are they now file.[/QUOTE]
Spinal Tap
-
17-05-2012 11:28 AM #21This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
-
17-05-2012 11:36 AM #22This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Was he not upset because of Sunshine on Leith making him think of his Dad? Thats how I remembered it anyway.
Collins had that team playing better football than Mowbray IMHO, and I will always thank him as just as much as the team for winnning the CIS cup.
That being said, his comments on something that happened 5 years ago know are totally unrelated and poorly timed. Reeks of sour grapes - although having said that, if I had been in that position and not recieved the support I should have gotten from the Chariman I would be pretty PO'd too.
-
17-05-2012 11:55 AM #23
- Join Date
- Aug 2006
- Posts
- 1,038
This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
JC was a romantic. The game at IIbrox when he first started at Ibrox where he insited in playing the ball out fae the keepr and they swamped us. He didn't have a plan b.
He was brave to make subs early when things weren't working.
He had zero man mangement skills. And couldn't spot a player. His signings were grim.
Brilliant to get Roger Propos on board.
JC I believe has a role to play at a fitba club - behind the scenes working perhaps with the youths.
-
17-05-2012 11:55 AM #24
- Join Date
- Jan 2011
- Posts
- 2,245
This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
-
17-05-2012 11:59 AM #25
- Join Date
- Jan 2011
- Posts
- 299
hkhibby
This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
-
17-05-2012 11:59 AM #26This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
There is this myth that hangs around that Rod 'backed the players'
The players were told at that meeting that whilst their concerns were noted, JC was the boss and that was that.
JC remained in his position and several of the ring leaders of the 'rebellion' were shipped out the club in the summer.
-
17-05-2012 12:04 PM #27This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
-
17-05-2012 12:06 PM #28This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
He was supported by Petrie, who also wanted him to stay as manager, although i dont know why?
-
17-05-2012 12:08 PM #29This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
The truth probably lyes somewhere in the middle, yes there was an element of acting like a spoilt brat, but I'd imagine a lot of that was born out of frustration at being unable to change the culture within the club. I don't think the subsequent 5 years since Collins paints him in a negative light. We've had a squad being told half way through a season they weren't fit enough!
Not sure where you got your impression from that I must be dissapointed he is not managing in the Premiership. I see Collins as a guy that has made his money from a hugely successfull career, and as a result can pick and choose what projects he wants to work on, if indeed working on any at all.
-
17-05-2012 12:28 PM #30This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Log in to remove the advert |
Bookmarks