Would Relegation Be a Blessing?

[JohnScott]

I know it's touchy subject but would relegation really be such a bad thing at this moment in time? Some on here are asking for our youth players to be brought on but is that fair on them? I think not but I'm sure many of them could hold their own in the SFL.

Look at it realistically: Most of the present team will be off in the summer and PF will be trawling around Britain and Ireland for another half a dozen or so players. He'll again have a limited budget so the players will be not be world beaters. We'll plod along to January till again we'll be looking at loan signings and so it goes on. Fans want new manager, he changes squad..................

So what if we stick with Pat and drop into the First Division? Would it really be so bad? In fact I'd go so far as to suggest it would do us the power of good. Bring through our young lads and add a few experienced pros to bring them on. There's no way we're going down the route Hearts and Rangers have taken, especially with this board so we have to get real and get out there and grab the best young talent we can. A year or two in league one could be a blessing in disguise. Do you really fancy two trips next year to Dingwall?

[Sean1875]

Relegation for Hibernian is not a good thing. In any way, shape or form.

[Sammy7nil]

Yeah it would be GREAT I don't understand why we don.t do it more often.

P.S. no TV money waiting on our return this time around we can't buy our way out of Div 1 like last time.

Ask Dundee Falkirk Hamilton Partick how they are enjoying Div 1

[hibee92]

No.

[Hiber-nation]

A blessing? No way. We can't sign Sauzee, Latapy and Mixu this time. It would be an absolute disaster.

[Sas_The_Hibby]

I know what you're saying but IMO there are so many things apparently wrong at the club, not just on the playing side, that I think there would be a high risk of us not getting back out of the First Division for several seasons, for less money to come in, for the fanbase to dwindle and for Hibs to become the Edinburgh equivalent of Dundee FC, i.e. an almost-permanently First Division club, living on faded memories of being in with the big boys..

Having said that, the alternative scenario of us fighting relegation every season in the SPL, which looks just as likely, is hardly any better.

How can a club with, presumably, the fourth largest resources in the SPL end up in such a sorry state?

[Onion]

No

[smurf]

No. We are Hibernian FC.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

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No.

This.

[glenn6270]

big IF we go down
we would not come back up
we are murder.
cant see pat fenlon turning us around at all .

[Elephant Stone]

No.

[MSK]

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I know it's touchy subject but would relegation really be such a bad thing at this moment in time? Some on here are asking for our youth players to be brought on but is that fair on them? I think not but I'm sure many of them could hold their own in the SFL.

Look at it realistically: Most of the present team will be off in the summer and PF will be trawling around Britain and Ireland for another half a dozen or so players. He'll again have a limited budget so the players will be not be world beaters. We'll plod along to January till again we'll be looking at loan signings and so it goes on. Fans want new manager, he changes squad..................

So what if we stick with Pat and drop into the First Division? Would it really be so bad? In fact I'd go so far as to suggest it would do us the power of good. Bring through our young lads and add a few experienced pros to bring them on. There's no way we're going down the route Hearts and Rangers have taken, especially with this board so we have to get real and get out there and grab the best young talent we can. A year or two in league one could be a blessing in disguise. Do you really fancy two trips next year to Dingwall?

Silly question ..

[AndyM_1875]

Whilst it gave us time to consolidate to an extent
And I travelled to many of the away fixtures, I've no wish to go back down that road again.

Relegation cost Hibs 2.7m in 1998.

[chrisski33]

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I know it's touchy subject but would relegation really be such a bad thing at this moment in time? Some on here are asking for our youth players to be brought on but is that fair on them? I think not but I'm sure many of them could hold their own in the SFL.

Look at it realistically: Most of the present team will be off in the summer and PF will be trawling around Britain and Ireland for another half a dozen or so players. He'll again have a limited budget so the players will be not be world beaters. We'll plod along to January till again we'll be looking at loan signings and so it goes on. Fans want new manager, he changes squad..................

So what if we stick with Pat and drop into the First Division? Would it really be so bad? In fact I'd go so far as to suggest it would do us the power of good. Bring through our young lads and add a few experienced pros to bring them on. There's no way we're going down the route Hearts and Rangers have taken, especially with this board so we have to get real and get out there and grab the best young talent we can. A year or two in league one could be a blessing in disguise. Do you really fancy two trips next year to Dingwall?

Hmmmm the obvious and sensible answer is that no it wouldnt be a blessing! Theres no proof that we have youth players who would get us back up and if so why arent they getting a look in now? Id take trips to dingwall over relegation any day! No hibs fan wud see relegation as a good thing!

[The_Todd]

It wouldn't be the end of the world, life would go on, and we'd probably go through a whole season without the embarrassment of being beaten 3 times by Hearts. We would be by no means assured of a straight bounce back up to the SPL, but this is Hibs and I'd still be along for the ride.

[sleeping giant]

Good grief

[Albion Hibs]

Anyone that thinks relegation is a good thing is stupid, end of.

Financially it would kill us, and there is nothing like a guarantee we would come back up. Last time we spent our way back into the top league, we would have not a chance of doing this now.

[SkintHibby]

If getting relegated means the end for Rod Petrie then I'd be ok with it.

As for not coming straight back up - nonsense, we'd be the RanTic of that league and would absolutely romp it (like last time).

[IberianHibernian]

It wouldn`t be a blessing but if point is that it`d be easier to start building a new team there might be something in it . Problem is that there don`t seem to be many young players waiting to walk into first team even in first division - Stevenson , Hanlon and GOC were only players in squad today who came through youth system and players on loan are in 3rd division except Welsh . Also would Fenlon not be hounded out if we`re relegated ? Presumably relegation would bring other changes further up club which might change other aspects of club too . Anyway , time for everyone to rally round ( what about club doing something to boost crowds for reamaining matches - free / subsidised transport for away matches , free tickets for home matches for season ticket holders to give to friends and relatives etc ) so we don`t find out benefits of relegation IF there are any .

[The_Todd]

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If getting relegated means the end for Rod Petrie then I'd be ok with it.

As for not coming straight back up - nonsense, we'd be the RanTic of that league and would absolutely romp it (like last time).

Assuming of course we signed a Sauzee and a Latapy like last time. I have serious doubts about that. Make no mistake if we go down we may well stay for for a good while.

[Sammy7nil]

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If getting relegated means the end for Rod Petrie then I'd be ok with it.

As for not coming straight back up - nonsense, we'd be the RanTic of that league and would absolutely romp it (like last time).

Step back in to the real world

There is NO Chance we would romp that league it would be very difficukt and with home crowds around the 7000 mark ER would be like a ghost ground

[SkintHibby]

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Assuming of course we signed a Sauzee and a Latapy like last time. I have serious doubts about that. Make no mistake if we go down we may well stay for for a good while.

We'd have about 4 times the income of the next closest club so we'd easily be able to recruit the best players to get out of that division. No problem.

[SkintHibby]

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Step back in to the real world

There is NO Chance we would romp that league it would be very difficukt and with home crowds around the 7000 mark ER would be like a ghost ground

I was at the 15,000 v Falkirk game. Nuff said.

[jdships]

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Good grief

My thought's too !

[Sammy7nil]

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I was at the 15,000 v Falkirk game. Nuff .said.

That was then this now

It is a myth we had massive crowds last time around we only had 2 or 3 big crowds.

Trust me we would struggle we may get out but it would be a struggle.

[woodyloon]

No it would bad for the club. The last we went down we were in a far better shape than we are just now, and I would really fear that we would not necessarily come straight back up.

But going by todays attitude and performance there is something wrong and has been ******ing away at the club for a while now, and we look like relegation favourites. I know a lot of fans think we will never go down, maybe the players think the same way, and maybe thats why we get such a lacklustre performance in matches as important as todays game, no matter how well United have played recently, you still need to make them work for a win, thats the hardest thing to swallow.

[proud_and_green]

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I know it's touchy subject but would relegation really be such a bad thing at this moment in time? Some on here are asking for our youth players to be brought on but is that fair on them? I think not but I'm sure many of them could hold their own in the SFL.

Look at it realistically: Most of the present team will be off in the summer and PF will be trawling around Britain and Ireland for another half a dozen or so players. He'll again have a limited budget so the players will be not be world beaters. We'll plod along to January till again we'll be looking at loan signings and so it goes on. Fans want new manager, he changes squad..................

So what if we stick with Pat and drop into the First Division? Would it really be so bad? In fact I'd go so far as to suggest it would do us the power of good. Bring through our young lads and add a few experienced pros to bring them on. There's no way we're going down the route Hearts and Rangers have taken, especially with this board so we have to get real and get out there and grab the best young talent we can. A year or two in league one could be a blessing in disguise. Do you really fancy two trips next year to Dingwall?

I do hope your tongue is firmly in your cheek and you are joking or perhaps playing devil's advocate.

If we go down, we will struggle to get back up in one season. And if we don't get back in one season we will be royally goosed as a club! In money terms we will lose too much and we have considerable bills to pay whatever the playing staff - East Mains and Easter Rad running costs plus loans and mortgages. Add to that to guarantee (although there is no real guarantee) promotion to the premier league you have to spend a lot more in proportion to your income than you do to stay up in the Premier League. So the implication of that is that you have to increase borrowings, which in turn means that your future spending power is reduced if you do get up because you have higher repayments ths reducing your disposable income!

Relegation will (would) be an absolute disaster for the club.

[AndyM_1875]

We had some 5 figure crowds in Division 1 but the 2 big games were the home games against Falkirk. As Promotion started to become inevitable the crowds flooded in.
We also had the best manager , experienced hard players in the league with the biggest budget taking on the likes of Clydebank,Ayr and Stranraer.

[Squealing pig]

Who was our starting 11 when we got relegated? Was just want to compare abit between two teams only seem to recall grant Brebner probably because he was our best player when we went down. Did we sign Franck, Russell and mixu when we got relegated?

[Squealing pig]

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We had some 5 figure crowds in Division 1 but the 2 big games were the home games against Falkirk. As Promotion started to become inevitable the crowds flooded in.
We also had the best manager , experienced hard players in the league with the biggest budget taking on the likes of Clydebank,Ayr and Stranraer.

Stranraer beat us at ER sure Clydebank done us too, we only lost the two all season I think