I was away up in the West about as far as I could be from the incident. Did anyone get a clear view? From my distant position it looked like Goodwin elbowed O'Donovan. Couldn't work out wht O'Donovan was booked.
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03-03-2012 08:20 PM #1@hibs.net private member
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Goodwin/O'Donovan incident
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03-03-2012 08:23 PM #2Coaching Staff
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should have been a penalty, the referee saw O'donovan bump into Goodwin and thought nothing of it .. game carried on, Linesman only flagged after Goodwin elbowed Roy, ball was in play therefore Penalty.
Referee Bottled it and booked both players, which is the only reason he bottled it again and didn't book Roy straight after Half time
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03-03-2012 08:26 PM #3I didnt see the incident, but it did seem to be the case that the ref stopped play. I cant remember how play restarted - anyone shed light on this? It should have been either a drop ball or a penalty.
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I would have been happy enough if both players had been sent off. Originally Posted by Baldy
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It would have hurt them more than us.
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I'm sure they got a free kick which their keeper took. Don't know why Originally Posted by TwoCarpets
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03-03-2012 08:28 PM #6Coaching Staff
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St Mirren free kick Originally Posted by TwoCarpets
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15 yards outside their box. Originally Posted by Baldy
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03-03-2012 08:35 PM #8Left by mutual consent!
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Question - if Goodwin has elbowed Roy O'D in the box and in full view of the linesman, why has he not gone down and got us the penalty we needed? It seems he stayed on his feet, made a fuss with Goodwin and got booked. He should have gone down. Time we wisened up. Teams have done it to us for decades.
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03-03-2012 08:35 PM #9Testimonial due
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One of many things Collum got wrong today, standard of officials is beyond a joke. Originally Posted by Baldy
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His performance today was quite embarrassing. He let both teams down today. Originally Posted by Baldy Foghorn
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Originally Posted by Baldy Foghorn
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Another of the many refs ,that gives us nothing. 
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03-03-2012 08:47 PM #12Testimonial due
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It certainly was woeful, to think he got £840 for that performance Originally Posted by the greenman
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Originally Posted by Hamilton Handling
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He shouldn't have to go down to win a penalty. The ref and linesman (supposedly) know the rules so it was a straight penalty.
Can't say I was convinced by the refs display, then again most of them are absolutely awful.
Let's wait and see if a) The compliance officer makes anything of it, b) Sportscene makes anything of it - although we all know a depends on b.
Not for the first time this season points go astray and the officials have some blame in that.
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Other odd thing was don't think the ref saw the elbow whereas the linesman did, duly flagged and was never consulted. 2 yellows soft option, very predictable.
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Think that as referee booked Goodwin that Lunny man can't do anything even if Sportscene highlight it. Originally Posted by Kato
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03-03-2012 08:58 PM #16Testimonial Due
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From what I saw O'D was elbowed/shouldered in the face, the Linesman flagged and Collum (who didn't seem to see the incident) booked them both without talking to his linesman.
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I agree, but if he had shown a bit more nous, we would have got one and he would have left them without a decision to make. Other sides have that streak about them and we lack it. Originally Posted by Kato
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We are too honest by far and it's part of the reason we are where we are.
Witness today's retreats at dead balls. They had a free kick at the corner of our box and our wall ended up standing somewhere around Bothwell Street.
Our free kicks around their box? Griffiths couldn't get their wall out of his jockeys!
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Yup true. I thought the incident was sparked by the way the goalie raised his leg through onto O'Donovan, but that in itself was pretty innocuous. Originally Posted by PatHead
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Anyways another stone-waller gone.
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We must be the only team that loses yards when taking a throw in...... Originally Posted by Hamilton Handling
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He would probably have been booked for diving ... Originally Posted by Hamilton Handling
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Also we had a foul throw against us. When did that last happen, never see foul throws given these days. Originally Posted by Baldy Foghorn
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The linesman seen something and the ref thought enough of it to book Goodwin. A prostrate O'Donovan = penalty. Originally Posted by grunt
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The irony being it was the first time in months that we threw the ball to our own player Originally Posted by PatHead
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Originally Posted by PatHead
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To be fair it was an appallingly obvious foul throw - without a word of protest from Ivan funnily enough.....
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03-03-2012 09:11 PM #25First Team Breakthrough
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Very strange decision, the linesman flagged for the elbow when ODonovan reacted to the keepers leg up challenge. Ref then booked them both without consulting the linesman. Joke..... Originally Posted by PatHead
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03-03-2012 09:15 PM #26Old Codger Hibstorian
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Not sure about all these 'never spoke to the linesman' posts. They communicate through their headphones/mics so no real need to actualy get face to face.
We could/should have had two penalties today. The O'Donovan one and the hand ball late in the game.This is how it feels
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03-03-2012 09:21 PM #27First Team Breakthrough
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The hand ball towards the end was one of the most blatant i have seen in a while, there was also one early in the second half. collum was a joke today. Originally Posted by Jonnyboy
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03-03-2012 10:11 PM #28hfc rdLeft by mutual consent!
I saw the incident.. Goodwin says something to O'Donovan and then elbows him for no apparent reason. O'Donovan doesn't take it and then starts exchanging words before the linesman waves his flags and the ref comes over and books both players. I think the linesman bottled it. He could so easily have told the ref (who never saw the incident) that Goodwin should be sent off for violent conduct. The SFA are so fickle!
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03-03-2012 10:35 PM #29 Originally Posted by Baldy
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Spot on, I was shouting for a penalty. I had a great view of it, O'Donovan did **** all wrong and Goodwin had a pop at him and raised his arm. Linesman flagged for it but the ref as far as I could tell did nothing about going over to speak to him about it.
That's two decisions in recent games that the linesman's had a brilliant view of, where the ref's wrongly booked a Hibs player (the other was Doherty's challenge in the Aberdeen game) and the linesman's stood by and given the ref no help whatsoever.
Collum was rank today, but he's not alone in that respect. I have been appalled at the standard of refereeing this season, not just from a Hibs point of view either, we got some decisions that were a joke today as well.Last edited by matty_f; 03-03-2012 at 10:40 PM.
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04-03-2012 01:05 AM #30Coaching Staff
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Not read the whole thread. What decision is this one? The one in the 6 yard box? If so the player maybe blocked him but i didn't see anything that wrong with it. As i say may have been another one i can't remember.
EDIT: nah forget my post, i remember my mate saying they were both booked after an incident that occured when i was at the toilet
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