http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/scotland/17146917
Some interesting defending...think Stack should have cut out that low cross surely for the 2nd? On the plus side he always seems to at least guess the right way at penalties and get close or even save them - just a shame he's had so much practice!
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23-02-2012 04:48 PM #1
BBC Highlights - Motherwell v Hibs
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23-02-2012 05:02 PM #3
good link up play between Griffiths and Osborne for the 1st goal and Griffiths attempt on goal ion the second half.
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23-02-2012 05:02 PM #4
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Typical of your luck when you are down there. When will Higdon ever do that again?
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23-02-2012 05:07 PM #5
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Utterly stupid defending for the first. If you put your keeper under that much pressure, you will concede goals Someone should have cut out the cross before the bicycle kick as well. Agree about Griffiths - we look like we can score goals with him up front. Oh, and how is O'Connor so fat?
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23-02-2012 05:09 PM #6
I agree they just did not deal with things at the back, to many free Motherwell players in the box. If we don't concede we cant loose - simple
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23-02-2012 05:25 PM #7
Some interesting comments about Griffiths having a good game - I only saw the highlights on Hibs TV and he seemed (to me) to ruin anything good he may have done by an awful final ball or shots wide of target - he really needs to be much more effective where it counts...
... while we seem to have played well in spells - defending is still a joke...
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23-02-2012 05:25 PM #8
Doherty should have dealt with the situation better than he did but not so sure Stack needed to go bundling into a player who was running away from goal and Stack should have never been beaten at the near post with a cross like that.
Other than that I thought Hibs looked decent and didn't look like they deserved to lose the game based on the highlights.
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23-02-2012 05:30 PM #9
I was talking to a motherwell fan who was at the game, he said at no time during the game did he feel confident they would win, he couldn't understand how we are in the position we are in as he reckoned that Hibs team were one of the best teams Motherwell have played at Fir Park apart from Rangers and Celtic and were much better than Hearts.
Those comments wont take us up the league but it's worth seeing how others see us.
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23-02-2012 05:33 PM #10
Griffiths looked good, and this game shows that we do have goals in the team... just odd they're no longer coming from O'Connor! He looks quite slow now?!
Shame about those 2 penalties...
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23-02-2012 05:34 PM #11
You can see Dohertys idea was to head it across to McPake to clear away from the pressurising attacker but mistimed it. Both pens looked a bit soft.
The question is how can we return to the defence that kept clean sheets against Aberdeen and Kilmarnock (?) and not the one that has let in 9 in two games. My guess is return to Kujabi at LB, McPake and Doh in the middle and Francomb on the right.
Garrys shorts look like theyre struggling to contain the everincreasing, massive expanse of erse within.Last edited by hibsbollah; 23-02-2012 at 05:38 PM.
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23-02-2012 05:40 PM #14
Looking at that and having seen the Killie and Aberdeen games I don't think we are a million miles from being a decent side.
Cut out the silly goals and start finishing our own chances and we should be ok.
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23-02-2012 05:47 PM #15
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We've just lost by the odd goal in 7(while outscoring them from open play)to a team going hard for 2nd place who have just beaten the 4th team 3-0 while playing half the game with 10 men.I don't think that there's any need to form an orderly queue at the Dean Bridge yet.
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23-02-2012 05:57 PM #16
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[QUOTE=hibsbollah;3126338]You can see Dohertys idea was to head it across to McPake to clear away from the pressurising attacker but mistimed it.
The first law of defending: boot it/hoof it/header it CLEAR!
Doherty was a rabbit in the headlights and did none of the aforementioned. He was also guilty of not attacking the returned ball and standing off Higdon for the overhead kick goal. So, one defender, two avoidable goals. No wonder Fenlon is left shaking his head.
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23-02-2012 05:58 PM #17
If we were sitting mid table that might have been an enjoyable game to watch.........
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23-02-2012 07:16 PM #18
Interesting to see Higdon giving the Well fans the " get it up ye" after his goal. Over to you Mr Complience Officer
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23-02-2012 07:37 PM #19
The Motherwell striker knocked Doherty over, and HE gets the penalty? Baffling.
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23-02-2012 08:03 PM #21
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Interesting to see that Higdon for his overhead had enough time for a cigar a read at the paper a pint then slowly get into position for his goal, utterly disgraceful defending yet again for 2 goals.
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23-02-2012 08:27 PM #22
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Use Ross Caldwell, Doyle and O'Donovan and see how we get on. As far as I'm concerned, GOC is spent. Jeez, when David Stephens played up top for a half he managed to keep the ball better and worked defenders more than GOC has these last 10 games.
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23-02-2012 08:36 PM #23
just watched the highlights = ouch! 1st division here we come we are by far getting worse!
That defence is shocking! If anything it's getting worse
How many games do we give the players to settle in? there's not many left...squeeky bum time for us Hibees
Positives we scored 3 goals.......but still lost
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23-02-2012 09:14 PM #24
Not sure we can complain about either pen. Poor play from Doherty on both occasions, although no need for Stack to clatter into Ojamaa.
Stack should also have cut out that cross for Murphy's tap in.
Doherty again dozing when Higdon was given about five minutes to settle himself for overhead kick.
Think we need to stick with Garry O & Griffiths up top.
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23-02-2012 11:15 PM #25
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Looking at that neither of the penalties looked clear cut - I think Stack actually got the ball in the 1st so no penalty - the 2nd one I think Doherty did get to the ball but maybe caught a bit of their man on the way so ref was probably right.
Stack could probably have done better with the low cross for well's tap in goal. Re the overhead kick I think you just have to hand it to Higdon for taking his chance so well - a goal doesn't always have to be someone's fault!
On the upside, Hibs created plenty enough chances of our own and showed decent fighting spirit - on another day we might just have won that game.
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23-02-2012 11:22 PM #26
From seeing that we played some alright stuff, however that defence is sending us down. We done well in the 1st half and then defending of south gyle standard lets Motherwell right back in it. For the 2nd goal Stack should have done more, however the defence as a whole are to blame.
Both penalty decisions were correct IMO. Not your complete stonewallers but there was enough contact to warrant a penalty in both cases.
Also I would've been sent off at the end for nutting someone in a Motherwell shirt during the handbags after Sproule scored
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24-02-2012 06:19 AM #27
Put simply all of our "good" play is utterly wasted as we just cannot defend
The goals we continuously lose are a joke
If the guy pings one in the top corner from 30 yards fair enough.
We lose most of our goals from within the goal line to the penalty spot.
It is lack of concentration, lack of bravery to go in where it hurts and guys too slow to react.
Truly truly worrying times as faults evident for months dont go away in days.
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24-02-2012 07:01 AM #28
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No one, and I mean no one can ever question Hibernian's going forward ability - our defence usually can't cope - but then again Hibs defence can't cope - hence why most Motherwell v Hibs games seem to be pick of the seasong games - lucky for us it was our turn to win it!
Interesting to see Higdon giving the Well fans the " get it up ye" after his goal. Over to you Mr Complience Officer
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24-02-2012 03:06 PM #29
Doc has had a howler theres no disputing that, felt Hanlon was ball watching for the 2nd, the tap in im sure it was him ended in the net with Murphy as for the overhead kick, Doc and Hanlon need to grow a pair and put there heed in where it hurts, take a kick in the mush if thats what it will take, cant believe he got such an easy ride with the overhead kick, fair play to finish it tho.
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24-02-2012 03:19 PM #30This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Too many goals from set pieces (corners / free kicks / pens - even against the yams a simple long throw).
Giving goals away at crucial times - just before or after half time or first 15 mins when the game should be kept tight.
Conceding just after we score - we get back into it - then lose concentration and are level again or losing.
Individual moments of madness - recently O'Hanlon at Ibrox - Doc against Well - simple defensive clearances.
All of that can be deflating to the players / manager / supporters.
Kilmarnock was a prefect example - defend well (not perfect but good enough) and you will get a chance at the other end = Hibs win 1v0.
Hopefully we cut cheap goals out towards the end of the season
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