9 goals in 180 minutes of football. Not hard to see where our problems still are, not just these two games, all season we've defended like schoolkids.
Get the lads into training and teach these guys how to defend as a flipping unit. Just can't believe this is the same squad that defended so well in the two games a few weeks back, particularly Killie game. That has already been knocked out the new guys, coincedence? Maybe there is more to the East Mains being to much of a "good thing" after all. Something is wrong beyond belief at ER.
Mourinho/Ferguson & Guardiola couldnt sort it me thinks. This season is destined for relegation in my opinion now. I had faith a few weeks back. I now don't.
Cheers lads
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Thread: Back to the drawing board
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22-02-2012 08:47 PM #1
Back to the drawing board
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22-02-2012 08:52 PM #2Elephant StoneLeft by mutual consent!
We had 2 consecutive clean sheets prior to this. Losing 5 to Celtic who have been scoring for fun and are on an unbelievable run of form is not a massive setback. We only lost a goal more than Hearts did against Motherwell last week and managed to score three more than they did. They've been the two hardest games we could possibly have played in the league. It's pretty depressing but I'm not too worried, we definitely have enough to stay in the league.
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22-02-2012 08:56 PM #3
Sorry I was going to comment and support this post but I thought it read "sack the board"
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22-02-2012 08:57 PM #4
I disagree about it not being a huge deal re the Celtic game mate, the confidence getting smashed out everything Hibs for a start. Losing 4 goals in 25 minutes again tonight, regardless of Motherwell being 3rd is quite simply, pathetic.
I keep hearing this, "we're too good to go down" and we'll stay in the league. Who exactly are we taking points of between now and week 38?
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22-02-2012 09:01 PM #5Elephant StoneLeft by mutual consent!This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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22-02-2012 09:02 PM #6
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However, what I completely agree with you about is something is wrong beyond belief at ER. Lets be fair, Rod aint training the team so its not his fault here. PF should be judged starting from next season if we manage to stay up. If we dont stay up then he should be judged as hes brought in the players he thought could do the job short term. In my opinion the buck has to stop with the players, and there seems to be a lack of communication between the team which is akin to the Scotland rugby try scoring fiasco!!
Surely we must get a break soon. But wheres it gonna come from?
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22-02-2012 09:04 PM #7
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kidding yeah?
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22-02-2012 09:10 PM #8This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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I'm lost trying to work out what the issue is. My hunch is now our fate to go down this season. I really hope im wrong.
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Why should he be judged from next season he has had enough time so far to get it sorted. Its his training, his tactics and his signings and nothing has changed Imho. Just look at Martin Oneil at Sunderland instant results. Another cheap option from the board I am seriously worried for this club
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We have a massive problem on our hands and cannot keep making silly excuses like this.
The bottom line is we should NOT be losing 5 goals to celtic at ER and we should NOT be getting beat when we have scored 3 goals away from home. Simple as that im afraid.
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22-02-2012 09:27 PM #12
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one game at time
whats changed in the league tonight nothing .
so lets put it to bed and look forward to killie game .
and see where we are come the end off the weekend .
All we can do is get behind the team win ,lose or drew
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22-02-2012 09:31 PM #13
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22-02-2012 09:32 PM #14
Dont know what to think now....why cant we defend? its a different defence from the one that started the season......my view its the keeper...if the defence dont have faith that the guy behind is going to command his box, come for crosses, be able to save a basic shot etc then they immediately put themselves under pressure trying hard to stop the ball getting near him because they know its almost certainly a goal, also the guys in the midfield dont seem to be holding onto the ball long enough, stevenson apart,...need to drop claros am afraid and put ossie and stevenson back together, they were understanding each other better, now theyv got a guy in between them that cant speak english and doesnt know their game yet, so drop him from first team untill a few more training sessions behind him, dont think wel get anything from sat either so hope that st J do something for us again, then its St Mirren.....a huge game that we really need to win.
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22-02-2012 09:34 PM #15
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They were not that good ,they couldnae beat us pre season must be crap
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22-02-2012 09:36 PM #17
On we roll to saturday. Yet another huge game. This win needs to come bloody fast. It's disgusting that our club has been allowed to get into this situation and decline for years.
Still. Love this club to bits. Roll on saturday let's go again boys. Just hope confidence can be salvaged.
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Fact of the matter is if we need to score three or four goals to win a game it will be a long time before we pick up 3 points. The balance in the team has been wrong pretty much all season. We need to get the back four sorted out and we need to do it sharpish.
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22-02-2012 09:42 PM #20
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If he fails to keep us up with his signings, then i think he will have failed in his task as he, imo, has brought in players he felt could do the job, and therefore he would be open to criticism.
Martin o'neil is a completely different ball game as Bruce spent about 40M on players in the summer, really talking about a different class of player altogether.
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We have surrendered the midfield in EVERY game this season and watched some really average sides pass it around like Barca while our midfield chase shadows. This puts a huge strain on our defence and even the new improved defence have to battle like **** against the constant wave of opposition midfield attacks.
Our forwards are starved of service from the least creative midfield in the league and end up looking very frustrated figures. Had high hopes for Claros but beginning to worry these hopes were misplaced.
If we survive in this league the midfield needs some massive improvement for next season especially finding people who can put their foot on the ball and dominate a midfield, something we haven't done for a few seasons.
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We keep hearing this we will pick up points nonsense well simply WHEN our defence sadly couldnt keep hens out a close 4 goals tonight in 25 minutes and do you really expect anything at Kilmarnock i dont and if we are lucky we might scrape a draw against STMirren simply not good enough and i cant see any win coming soon.
Dunfermline could have 6 and look more capable of winning a game than us sadly
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weve played another game ,lost 4 goals in 25 minutes threw away another lead and ony 11 games to go and i wish my optimsim was a high as yours but its not and i fully expect to lose again at kilmarnock sorry never depressed as much as i am at the moment and ive seen more than a 1 relegation sadly
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:giruy:
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23-02-2012 09:22 AM #28
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Stevenson is becoming the best player in the team but he didn't play under CC.
Wotherspoon has been crap, Hanlon is crap, Stack is crap, O'Connor is Crap.
There is no difference in the performance of Osbourne.
So who exactly has improved?.
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23-02-2012 09:38 AM #30
Fenlon and his coaching team haven't improved a single player from the squad he inherited. That fact is quite incredible to be honest. It beggars belief what goes on at East Mains. Although I have heard training is schoolboy quality.
The only improvement if any is from the new players brought in.
P.S. Forgot to add Sproule is also crap to my previous post.
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