Wotherspoon (merged)

***JimBHibees*** · 23-02-2012 01:33 PM

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Maybe there was a doubt over someone else?

Yep sounds like it.

**~~The Voice Of Reason~~** · 23-02-2012 02:40 PM

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No wasnt at the game but thanks for filling me in. So he was warming up even though he wasnt a sub a bit unusual that.

You just crack on with slating the boy at every turn.

No probs, that's the benefit of a message board - sharing of information and all that.

I am not "slating" Wotherspoon. There is nothing personal in it and he does seem like a decent lad. I am simply commenting on his dreadful (in my opinion) performances for the team I love and pay good money to watch. As I have said before, even in our team of underperforming goons, Wotherspoon actually stands out as being poor!

What I do not get Jim is people who defend the idefendible (is that a word?!?) The same happened with De Graaf who was clearly hopeless and did not/could not get any better ! To be fair, Wotherspoon does have age on his side and will hopefully get better...........however I am not seeing much to make me think that will happen.

Finally, just in case you think it is only me who "slates" Wotherspoon - please check back on all the "Player Ratings" threads this season. You will see what the vast vast majority of other fellow fans think the same as I do.

Are we good Jim ?!?!? (SMILEY)

***Billy Whizz*** · 23-02-2012 02:55 PM

I think he was probably rested. Manager thought 3 games in a week was too much for him. Remember he's playing for Scotland next midweek against Holland. In total he may have played 5 games in total between Celtic and St Mirren games if he was selected for them all

***JimBHibees*** · 23-02-2012 02:57 PM

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I think he was probably rested. Manager thought 3 games in a week was too much for him. Remember he's playing for Scotland next midweek against Holland. In total he may have played 5 games in total between Celtic and St Mirren games if he was selected for them all

Especially when he is carrying an injury.

***NorthNorfolkHFC*** · 23-02-2012 03:25 PM

I think we should stop giving up on players.

My mate who holds a season ticket up at Tannadice said John Rankin has been outstanding in their past four games, he went on to add that he has 'learnt' to shoot when appropriate and has a great eye for a pass. I might add he scored a 'raker' a few nights back.

Is there something wrong with Hibs that we cannot the best from our players, how can Rankin learn to shoot differently, coaching!!!!!

Under the description my Arab friend gave me, Rankin is exactly the type of player we are crying out for.......but we all know how that story ended!!

***TrinityHibs*** · 23-02-2012 04:02 PM

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Oh excellent, thanks for clearing that up.

Re Wotherspoon's "injury" - he is not injured so your "point" is invalid. He was warming up and running freely just the same as the other subs both before the game and at half time (presume you were at the game to see this for yourself ?!?)

Keep it up though !

This might just explain why DW gets so much stick. There was me, BBC Scotland and the fishy site thinking he wasnt on the bench yet you have managed to spot him. I suppose looking at it positively there was nothing negative in your comments about his warming up. Typical the one time he doesnt do anything wrong he's not there.They used to call Matin Peters The Ghost as he would appear in the box and the opposition wouldn't see him. Mibbees that the role for Spoonie going forward

**Wotherspiniesta** · 23-02-2012 05:41 PM

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I have said this many times before, but Wotherspoon is simply is not good enough.

The fact that he is a 1st team regular sums up why we are struggling so much.

He should not be playing professional football IMHO.

Dreadful.

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Sorry Jim, but why do you think he is "decent" ?

Does he have pace? NO

Does he have power? NO

Can he beat a man regularly? NO

Does he score goals? NO

Can he defend well? NO

Does he create things? NO

He should be nowhere near our 1st team, letalone a 1st team regular, the guy is gash.

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Can you please tell us what you think Wotherspoon offers ?

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That's the problem Jim - He IS playing for Hibs, which sums up why we are struggling so much!

The guy is not good enough!

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Guys, we all want Wotherspoon to be good !

However the truth is that he has been really bad in almost every game he has played this season (he was OK against Celtic in the CIS Cup at Easter Rd and I believe he was OK last week vs Aberdeen (although I wasn't there)).

Please have a look at all the "Player Ratings" threads throughput the season, he has consistently been rated as well below pass marks in almost every game, and this is by US, the ones who watch him week in/week out. He sticks out as being poor even in our team of mass underpreformers !

The truth is that he should be nowhere near the 1st team at this moment in time, why does Fenlon pick him - that is the question !!!! Bewildering.

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Churcy, I do not disagree with your sentiments.......however Wotherspoon is nowhere near in the same league as Collins, Weir or Miller !

A dead horse can ony be flogged for so long. I simply do not think Wotherspoon will improve much (if at all) from where he is now. It's not as if he has any special pace, power or ability, so there is nothing there to suggest he will improve. I am already astonished at how many games he has played for us and will be even more astonished if he is still at Hibs for longer than his existing contract. Yogi will probably sgn him for Livingston.

Sad but true.

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EH ?!?!? You are quoting your OWN post, then replying to yourself !!!!!

I think we get it, you think Wotherspoon is a talented player. As I have said previously, have a look back at all the "Player Ratings" threads for this season and you will see that most other fans think very differently (unfortunately). People can only comment on what they see on the park !

We are all entitled to our opinion (yourself included).

P.S Are you David Wotherspoon ?!?!?

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Oh excellent, thanks for clearing that up.

Re Wotherspoon's "injury" - he is not injured so your "point" is invalid. He was warming up and running freely just the same as the other subs both before the game and at half time (presume you were at the game to see this for yourself ?!?)

Keep it up though !

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No probs, that's the benefit of a message board - sharing of information and all that.

I am not "slating" Wotherspoon. There is nothing personal in it and he does seem like a decent lad. I am simply commenting on his dreadful (in my opinion) performances for the team I love and pay good money to watch. As I have said before, even in our team of underperforming goons, Wotherspoon actually stands out as being poor!

What I do not get Jim is people who defend the idefendible (is that a word?!?) The same happened with De Graaf who was clearly hopeless and did not/could not get any better ! To be fair, Wotherspoon does have age on his side and will hopefully get better...........however I am not seeing much to make me think that will happen.

Finally, just in case you think it is only me who "slates" Wotherspoon - please check back on all the "Player Ratings" threads this season. You will see what the vast vast majority of other fellow fans think the same as I do.

Are we good Jim ?!?!? (SMILEY)

**~~The Voice Of Reason~~** · 23-02-2012 06:31 PM

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Oh my goodness, I've got a stalker !

Yipee, I must be a celebrity !

**Hibees07** · 23-02-2012 06:41 PM

Let's count our blessings that Wotherspoon is playing, it could be Martin 'Jimmy' Scott.

**Wotherspiniesta** · 23-02-2012 06:47 PM

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Oh my goodness, I've got a stalker !

Yipee, I must be a celebrity !

Believe it or not they're all from this one thread!

Please, tell us one more time your opinions on David Wotherspoon.

By the way, I bet you were very conspicuous by your absense when he was scoring a winning goal in Holland for the Under 21's and when he put us through to the next round of the cup.

***TrinityHibs*** · 23-02-2012 06:59 PM

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Believe it or not they're all from this one thread!

Please, tell us one more time your opinions on David Wotherspoon.

By the way, I bet you were very conspicuous by your absense when he was scoring a winning goal in Holland for the Under 21's and when he put us through to the next round of the cup.

Despite claims I think he was absent at Motherwell as well as DW wasnt on the pitch yet he saw him.

**~~The Voice Of Reason~~** · 23-02-2012 07:34 PM

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Despite claims I think he was absent at Motherwell as well as DW wasnt on the pitch yet he saw him.

**Albion Hibs** · 23-02-2012 07:50 PM

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Believe it or not they're all from this one thread!

Please, tell us one more time your opinions on David Wotherspoon.

By the way, I bet you were very conspicuous by your absense when he was scoring a winning goal in Holland for the Under 21's and when he put us through to the next round of the cup.

I could not give a flying one about the under 21's it means absolutely nothing. The club that is at at the bottom of the table, and pays his wages could do with him scoring a few winning goals.....or even sticking in some decent performances back to back.

***Jonnyboy*** · 23-02-2012 08:06 PM

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Oh excellent, thanks for clearing that up.

Re Wotherspoon's "injury" - he is not injured so your "point" is invalid. He was warming up and running freely just the same as the other subs both before the game and at half time (presume you were at the game to see this for yourself ?!?)

Keep it up though !

oops

**IWasThere2016** · 23-02-2012 08:30 PM

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I could not give a flying one about the under 21's it means absolutely nothing. The club that is at at the bottom of the table, and pays his wages could do with him scoring a few winning goals.....or even sticking in some decent performances back to back.

BIG hammer, wee nail and WHALLOP!

***TrinityHibs*** · 23-02-2012 11:22 PM

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I could not give a flying one about the under 21's it means absolutely nothing. The club that is at at the bottom of the table, and pays his wages could do with him scoring a few winning goals.....or even sticking in some decent performances back to back.

Thats a fair comment. You could say the same about O Connor, Griffiths and Doyle as well. I think the whole team has to look at itself not just DW. I have still seen enough improvement since Pat came in to make me believe it can happen but they all have to get the finger out

***TrinityHibs*** · 23-02-2012 11:22 PM

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That made me laugh as well VOR

***JimBHibees*** · 24-02-2012 08:40 AM

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oops

So he is injured and wasnt warming up at Motherwell?

**marinello59** · 24-02-2012 08:54 AM

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So he is injured and wasnt warming up at Motherwell?

The Voice of Reason saw him warming up. So he must have been there.

**~~The Voice Of Reason~~** · 24-02-2012 08:56 AM

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So he is injured and wasnt warming up at Motherwell?

He was on the pitch at half time with the rest of the subs (unless he has a twin brother!)

**~~Peevemor~~** · 24-02-2012 09:01 AM

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He was on the pitch at half time with the rest of the subs (unless he has a twin brother!)

Did he have a guitar?

Oh wait, that's Lewis Stevenson.

**marinello59** · 24-02-2012 09:11 AM

Hibs should produce a book full of montage pictures entitled, 'Where's Wotherspoon.'' I'll email the marketing department at the club with this right away.

**~~The Voice Of Reason~~** · 24-02-2012 09:47 AM

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Hibs should produce a book full of montage pictures entitled, 'Where's Wotherspoon.'' I'll email the marketing department at the club with this right away.

LOL ! (My Smileys aren't working!)

***TrinityHibs*** · 24-02-2012 11:11 AM

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He was on the pitch at half time with the rest of the subs (unless he has a twin brother!)

Aw naw. You saw Vlad as well. Where's the lurking sub smiley when you need it? Mibbees DW was in the sub but thats probably an image too far for a family forum

**Albion Hibs** · 24-02-2012 11:36 AM

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I think he was probably rested. Manager thought 3 games in a week was too much for him. Remember he's playing for Scotland next midweek against Holland. In total he may have played 5 games in total between Celtic and St Mirren games if he was selected for them all

Either that or the manager was fuming that he was shooting his mouth off in the paper about dressing room discussions between the players and the management, allowing a story to be printed on the day of a very important game for us. I would be putting my money on that.