Tom farmer and Petrie should proper go for it. Make a statement to the fans and give fenlon a decent budget. We are probably the only club in the spl other than Celtic who could actually spend some money. This could be a massive opportunity to actually get ourselves right in the European mix of things. Hearts and rangers are going to be considerably weaker and all the other teams don't have money to spend either. If we got Europa league even then the money we can get is a massive return. All this providing we don't get relegated
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Thread: Next season
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15-02-2012 06:28 AM #1
Next season
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15-02-2012 06:48 AM #2
It's 'proper going for it' that has got other teams in this mess, even in the off chance of doing well in Europe wouldn't give that big a return, look at aberdeen when they got through the group stages a few years ago.
What we need to do is keep on spending the most that we can afford and hope that other teams budgets continue to drop so we're still paying more than them while not increasing our budget to more than we can afford
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15-02-2012 06:58 AM #3
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Our crowds have dropped further and we have again signed around 8 players in each of the two windows with others being paid off so I can't see the year to 31/7/2012 being any better unless we got to the cup final perhaps.
Come on............
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15-02-2012 07:11 AM #6
Our balance sheet isn't that great but that's based on the business running itself. I'm talking about farmer giving us a couple of million from his own pocket which is basically all it would take to secure a Europa place in the current setup. If we make it to the league stages, the prize money, potential sell outs and tv revenue could see him recoup this money.
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15-02-2012 07:17 AM #7
The op does have a good point. If ever there was a time to take a gamble then its now. .....unfortunately its hibs we are talking about and the gamble for us is too much to take
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15-02-2012 07:19 AM #8
Instead of spending money we have not got and risking the future of the club, why not get together with the other non old firm clubs to vote in a salary cap of £5m per season for all clubs. This would bring Celtic back into the pack and allow far greater competition in the league.
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15-02-2012 07:23 AM #9
We as a club don't have the money but the point I'm trying to make is that if the rich lists are anything to go by, our owner clearly has the money. There is not a better time to invest than the next transfer window. Sir Tom has probably invested higher amounts in stocks and shares in the past and I understand this opportunity carries the risk of us not achieving European football, however with the rangers and hearts troubles, this risk is getting lower and lower
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15-02-2012 08:49 AM #10
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Ther is even less chance of that happening than Hibs funding it.
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15-02-2012 08:52 AM #11
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In other words, why would he?
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15-02-2012 09:27 AM #16This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
P.S. This is just in answer to your question & not the post in general.
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15-02-2012 09:36 AM #17
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If it's a decent investment opportunity, as you say, then how much would you put in? You seem to think that you can accumulate from this so why not?
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15-02-2012 09:47 AM #18This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Only one way to find that out Mikey.
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15-02-2012 11:21 AM #20
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A Rangersless SPL will mean a notable drop in income, we are already spending too much. Like everyone else we'd be making big cuts.
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15-02-2012 11:24 AM #21
Where do people get this idea that we have money to spend? Bottom 6 finishes, dropping attendances and early cup exits= losing money.
I'd rather we stick by our manager, back him within reason, get our best performers (Ozzy, Leigh etc) to sign up long term, blood a couple more youngsters and aim for the top 6.
Rather that than spend money, still end up no better than 3rd and end up going into administration in a few years.
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15-02-2012 11:27 AM #22
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So, Farmer has wealth? I'd ask again, are you going to start by handing over the same percentage of what you might have spare?
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15-02-2012 11:40 AM #24
the amount I talked about is about 3% of his wealth. Bearing in mind pay day is next week for me, I'm currently on my way down to Easter road with my novelty sized cheque for £6
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A lot of the fans who have stayed away (including me, I admit it) have been doing so because freezing our backsides off watching a team that couldn't care less put out by a manager who couldn't care less and wondering exactly where the owner and CEO were taking us in the long run and receiving little or no information or encouragement in that regard had ceased to be an attractive way of spending Saturday afternoons, Mikey.
I have been back - once - recently, and what I saw encouraged me. I'll be back again soon, and hopefully I'll be more encouraged then. Baby steps, Mikey - Hibs have a greater propensity for pissing off their supporters than any other team I know.
I can't see a one-off gamble of £2m from Farmer's own pocket f=making any lasting difference; what I DO want to see is the team being given a higher priority - financial and otherwise - in coming seasons, now that the infrastructure is in place. The present manager seems to be sorting out the squad - long overdue, IMO - and has what appears to be an eye for a player and the ability to motivate players who hitherto have been less than fully committed to the cause. Most of our present squad are here on short-term contracts or loan agreements, so the summer transfer window will tell us a lot about how PF sees the future, and about how likely he is to achieve what he's setting out to do.
But some if us do need to be convinced that things HAVE changed decisively, Mikey.
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What would the likely gain from this investment be for STF?
Mind you there are many threads on this board that say STF should not be allowed to make a profit from any of his investments in the club.
What about the year after that when it doesn't quite do it or we want a further investment to sustain the challenge?
What it seems to me that Hibs are building is a long term future which allows us to stay in business, mount a campaign each year and hopefully improve each year. Your proposal would not assist in any of that.Last edited by proud_and_green; 15-02-2012 at 11:50 AM.
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15-02-2012 11:48 AM #28
Why not just stop paying tax and invest that in the team. Appears to a legitimate strategy for success. Maybe if we are really lucky we could enter administration, wipe out the debt and start again. Only stumbling block is we would need to ensure we were more than 10 points off the bottom. Right who is up for it
Well why not?
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The feeling around ER and the performances on the park have improved dramatically since Fenlon came in, but we are still level on points with the bottom team in the SPL with games running out. I'd prefer to think about next season when there's considerably more certainty regarding what league we will be playing in.
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