Generic Sevco / Rangers meltdown thread

[Zondervan]

Another good (and long) read here about what may happen next, in particular around the SFA/SPL passing the buck on who actually finishes off The Rangers.

http://scotslawthoughts.wordpress.co...-scotland-ltd/

Will there ever be an end-game to this saga?

Also the guy is worth following on Twitter for all you Tweeters out there: Paul McConville - @Paulmcc12

[danhibees1875]

In the most childish way possible...why do we lmao the likes of Scott to a division 1 team? Between all the spl clubs we could loan our fringe players to a different 3rd div team every year and keep the Huns out of site hehe.

[Moulin Yarns]

Well said Annan

http://www.annanathleticfc.com/news.asp

The SPL are now due to meet on Monday where the first steps of shift in governance should take place with removal of the 11-1 vote. Like many other clubs we are suspicious that the SFL’s decision to place Rangers in Div 3 may not be final, the SPL could easily counter such fears by inviting Dundee or Dunfermline into the SPL to take the compliment of teams to the minimum number in accord with the legally binding Settlement Agreement. We were delighted to hear the unanimous response from all ten 1^st Division clubs who stated that they are only interested in a 42 club resolution (for any CEO’s or others who are unsure what that means, bluntly it is stick SPL2 where the sun don’t shine and do not even attempt to pull a 16 team stunt move, another scenario that wouldn’t astonish us is for Rangers to be invited back into the SPL – to think we were threatened with Armageddon! We do however have faith that the SPL chairmen, the guys that matter, will invite Dundee or Dunfermline into the SPL and through all our combined efforts we will see a 42 team resolution to restructuring and the many other changes we all wish to see happening.

[lapsedhibee]

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Another good (and long) read here about what may happen next, in particular around the SFA/SPL passing the buck on who actually finishes off The Rangers.

http://scotslawthoughts.wordpress.co...-scotland-ltd/

[Moulin Yarns]

From Alex Thomson's blog


three people present at today’s meeting told me independently that the SFA boss Stewart Regan has told the “Rangers” owner Charles Green that there is no way his club will be playing in D3 a fortnight tomorrow

Instead of the widespread assumption this is a threat that the SFA will do everything to get newgers into the SPL 2, could it not be read that the SFA won't give Newgers a licence to play next season?

I know that sounds most unlikely, but remember the SFA still have to decide on what 'punishment' to put on them after the CofS appeal finding. Here's hoping.

[blackpoolhibs]

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A couple of folk I know and a couple on here seem to be moving the goalposts on their renewal or lack thereof.

I dont know the people you know, but who on here keep moving the goalposts?

[greenginger]

I take it resolution 3 was passed at the SFL meeting allowing either Dundee or Dunfermline to leave the SFL if they get the call from the SPL ?

If so, I don't see how a stitch-up by Doncaster and Co could get Sevco back into the SPL.

They are now locked into the SFL and won't even have a vote for 4 years !

[Moulin Yarns]

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I take it resolution 3 was passed at the SFL meeting allowing either Dundee or Dunfermline to leave the SFL if they get the call from the SPL ?

If so, I don't see how a stitch-up by Doncaster and Co could get Sevco back into the SPL.

They are now locked into the SFL and won't even have a vote for 4 years !

According to the Annan statement, the vote for resolution 3 was yes

[Moulin Yarns]

For our esteemed poster, Blueisthecolour.....

Annan Athletic - Galabank, capacity 3000 they are down the way from Ibrox
Berwick Rangers - Shielfield Park, ENGLAND (scene of your 'greatest game in history'), capacity 4131 Over the border, in case you had forgotten
Clyde - Broadwood stadium, capacity 8029 What's it called? Cumbernauld
East Stirling - Ochilview, capacity 3776 ground share with Stenny
Elgin City -Boroughbriggs, capacity 4927 up north
Montrose - Links Park, capacity 3292 nothing to do with sausages, it is by the seaside
Peterhead - Balmoor, capacity 4000, you probably know Peterhead, there's a big hoose there
Queen's Park - Hampden Park, capacity 52000 the largest ground in the SFL 3 and the chance for a newco-firm derby
Stirling Albion - Forthbank, capacity 3808 stuck in the middle of an industrial estate

Enjoy the journey

[lapsedhibee]

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For our esteemed poster, Blueisthecolour.....

Annan Athletic - Galabank, capacity 3000 they are down the way from Ibrox
Berwick Rangers - Shielfield Park, ENGLAND (scene of your 'greatest game in history'), capacity 4131 Over the border, in case you had forgotten
Clyde - Broadwood stadium, capacity 8029 What's it called? Cumbernauld
East Stirling - Ochilview, capacity 3776 ground share with Stenny
Elgin City -Boroughbriggs, capacity 4927 up north
Montrose - Links Park, capacity 3292 nothing to do with sausages, it is by the seaside
Peterhead - Balmoor, capacity 4000, you probably know Peterhead, there's a big hoose there
Queen's Park - Hampden Park, capacity 52000 the largest ground in the SFL 3 and the chance for a newco-firm derby
Stirling Albion - Forthbank, capacity 3808 stuck in the middle of an industrial estate

Enjoy the journey

All that's only if they get their DodoHun-SevcoHun membership/licence/sanctions issues sorted out, mind.

[Moulin Yarns]

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All that's only if they get their DodoHun-SevcoHun membership/licence/sanctions issues sorted out, mind.

As already suggested

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From Alex Thomson's blog


three people present at today’s meeting told me independently that the SFA boss Stewart Regan has told the “Rangers” owner Charles Green that there is no way his club will be playing in D3 a fortnight tomorrow

Instead of the widespread assumption this is a threat that the SFA will do everything to get newgers into the SPL 2, could it not be read that the SFA won't give Newgers a licence to play next season?

I know that sounds most unlikely, but remember the SFA still have to decide on what 'punishment' to put on them after the CofS appeal finding. Here's hoping.

[lapsedhibee]

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As already suggested

Just don't want all the recent celebration about SevcoHuns' D3 destination to stifle any awareness of the possibility, however remote, of complete expunction from fitba next season.

[joe breezy]

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For our esteemed poster, Blueisthecolour.....

Annan Athletic - Galabank, capacity 3000 they are down the way from Ibrox
Berwick Rangers - Shielfield Park, ENGLAND (scene of your 'greatest game in history'), capacity 4131 Over the border, in case you had forgotten
Clyde - Broadwood stadium, capacity 8029 What's it called? Cumbernauld
East Stirling - Ochilview, capacity 3776 ground share with Stenny
Elgin City -Boroughbriggs, capacity 4927 up north
Montrose - Links Park, capacity 3292 nothing to do with sausages, it is by the seaside
Peterhead - Balmoor, capacity 4000, you probably know Peterhead, there's a big hoose there
Queen's Park - Hampden Park, capacity 52000 the largest ground in the SFL 3 and the chance for a newco-firm derby
Stirling Albion - Forthbank, capacity 3808 stuck in the middle of an industrial estate

Enjoy the journey

Oldco - Newco derby - Scotland's oldest club v Scotland's newest club

[Geo_1875]

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Just don't want all the recent celebration about SevcoHuns' D3 destination to stifle any awareness of the possibility, however remote, of complete expunction from fitba next season.

"Expunction" That sounds like a suitable outcome.

[Moulin Yarns]

Dorin Goian aims to leave Ibrox after the Rangers newco was voted into the Irn-Bru Third Division.


The Romanian defender, who joined Rangers from Palermo last summer, had vowed to stay if the club were allowed into the First Division. But he quickly announced his intention to quit after 25 Scottish Football League clubs voted to admit Charles Green's Rangers in the bottom tier.
"I am not playing at the fourth level - there's no question of that," Goian told Romanian media.
"I am on my way back and I will meet the president of the club and I will learn more.
"My agent has already spoken with other teams but nothing has been agreed yet.
"I would have stayed if it was the First Division - but not this."

[LeighLoyal]

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For our esteemed poster, Blueisthecolour.....Annan Athletic - Galabank, capacity 3000 they are down the way from IbroxBerwick Rangers - Shielfield Park, ENGLAND (scene of your 'greatest game in history'), capacity 4131 Over the border, in case you had forgottenClyde - Broadwood stadium, capacity 8029 What's it called? CumbernauldEast Stirling - Ochilview, capacity 3776 ground share with StennyElgin City -Boroughbriggs, capacity 4927 up northMontrose - Links Park, capacity 3292 nothing to do with sausages, it is by the seasidePeterhead - Balmoor, capacity 4000, you probably know Peterhead, there's a big hoose thereQueen's Park - Hampden Park, capacity 52000 the largest ground in the SFL 3 and the chance for a newco-firm derbyStirling Albion - Forthbank, capacity 3808 stuck in the middle of an industrial estateEnjoy the journey

I thought Sevco fans were boycotting anybody who has integrity? All these clubs are part of the out to get me anti hun conspiracy surely?

[Moulin Yarns]

10 things you may not have known about the Scottish third division1) Rangers (assuming they are allowed to keep their history) can now become the first club to win all four Scottish divisions.
2) Sevco Scotland Ltd has been granted associate membership of the SFL, which means that they will have no voting rights for three years.
3) The SFL is sponsored by Irn-Bru, Scotland's other national drink. It's understood that drinks giant Barrs supply product rather than cash for the bulk of the deal.
4) Sevco will have only the second-biggest ground in Division Three. Queen's Park's capacity at Hampden is 52,500 - 1,418 more fans than Ibrox can hold.
5) Two of the clubs in the Third Division, Alloa Athletic and Annan Athletic, have never played a competitive match against Rangers in any of their previous incarnations.
6) Only two of the Third Division sides have faced Rangers (as was) in a league match. Clyde last played them for points at Shawfield on Feb 22 1975 while amateurs Queen's Park, in their last season in the top flight, won 2-1 at Ibrox on March 20, 1948.
7) There will be a scramble for tickets for away matches, particularly at Annan's Galabank, which has a capacity of 2007, with only 500 seats.
8) No Third Division club has ever reached the final of the Scottish Cup or the League Cup.
9) By joining the SFL, Sevco (assuming they are allowed to keep Rangers' history) will have the chance to add the Ramsdens Cup to their list of trophies won.
10) According to the SFL's website, Ramsdens is “the largest independently owned pawnbroking and financial services business in the UK.”

[LeighLoyal]

Elgin have just released a statement: for every 1p Sevco FC spend they will spend 2p.

[VickMackie]

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Elgin have just released a statement: for every 1p Sevco FC spend they will spend 2p.

[VickMackie]

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10 things you may not have known about the Scottish third division1) Rangers (assuming they are allowed to keep their history) can now become the first club to win all four Scottish divisions.
2) Sevco Scotland Ltd has been granted associate membership of the SFL, which means that they will have no voting rights for three years.
3) The SFL is sponsored by Irn-Bru, Scotland's other national drink. It's understood that drinks giant Barrs supply product rather than cash for the bulk of the deal.
4) Sevco will have only the second-biggest ground in Division Three. Queen's Park's capacity at Hampden is 52,500 - 1,418 more fans than Ibrox can hold.
5) Two of the clubs in the Third Division, Alloa Athletic and Annan Athletic, have never played a competitive match against Rangers in any of their previous incarnations.
6) Only two of the Third Division sides have faced Rangers (as was) in a league match. Clyde last played them for points at Shawfield on Feb 22 1975 while amateurs Queen's Park, in their last season in the top flight, won 2-1 at Ibrox on March 20, 1948.
7) There will be a scramble for tickets for away matches, particularly at Annan's Galabank, which has a capacity of 2007, with only 500 seats.
8) No Third Division club has ever reached the final of the Scottish Cup or the League Cup.
9) By joining the SFL, Sevco (assuming they are allowed to keep Rangers' history) will have the chance to add the Ramsdens Cup to their list of trophies won.
10) According to the SFL's website, Ramsdens is “the largest independently owned pawnbroking and financial services business in the UK.”

Whilst mildly amusing there's no question about it, rangers are no more. No history.

[Hibercelona]

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Elgin have just released a statement: for every 1p Sevco FC spend they will spend 2p.

Perhaps some fans from each SPL side should divide up and give all our division 3 pals (excluding sevco), some much needed gate cash.

[Moulin Yarns]

Anybody looked at the official Rangers website today?

http://www.rangers.co.uk/news/football-news-index

[Lungo--Drom]

did they say whether there was enough people to have four jackets as goal posts?

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Lloyd Shepherd ‏@lloydshep
Someone Scottish from something called "Rangers" has just phoned and asked if I "fancy a game." Is this a 50 Shades of Grey thing?

[FranckSuzy]

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From Alex Thomson's blog


three people present at today’s meeting told me independently that the SFA boss Stewart Regan has told the “Rangers” owner Charles Green that there is no way his club will be playing in D3 a fortnight tomorrow

Instead of the widespread assumption this is a threat that the SFA will do everything to get newgers into the SPL 2, could it not be read that the SFA won't give Newgers a licence to play next season?

I know that sounds most unlikely, but remember the SFA still have to decide on what 'punishment' to put on them after the CofS appeal finding. Here's hoping.

Just been on BBC news

[Cabbage East]

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Anybody looked at the official Rangers website today?

http://www.rangers.co.uk/news/football-news-index

What am I supposed to be lookin for?

[LeighLoyal]

One thing that makes me laugh is they think they have been 'punished' for their crimes. They have received what any other club would have for entering administration and then liquidation: a 10 point deduction and loss of the liquidated companies football registration. The only extra punishment they have received for their industrial financial malpractice was a fine of £160,000, refused to pay it, and banned from transfers for two windows, refused to accept it. The European ban is also purely procedural as they have no audited accounts. So we have a situation where a club has brought the Scottish game into serious disrepute but as yet has had no sanction applied successfully. The question of history has to be addressed: if Sevco FC claims the history of Rangers FC and that is allowed to be the case then it must accept the sanctions for its previous incarnations misdeeds. Personally I favour the no history, no sanctions route. But it has to be fully stated first that Sevco FC has no claim on the 54 titles won by Ranger FC 1872-2012 (RIP)

[Mon Dieu4]

Just said on the news the SFA are meeting next week to discuss all that, they still don't have an SFA licence and the vote yesterday was dependant on it being granted

[Onion]

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One thing that makes me laugh is they think they have been 'punished' for their crimes. They have received what any other club would have for entering administration and then liquidation: a 10 point deduction and loss of the liquidated companies football registration. The only extra punishment they have received for their industrial financial malpractice was a fine of £160,000, refused to pay it, and banned from transfers for two windows, refused to accept it. The European ban is also purely procedural as they have no audited accounts. So we have a situation where a club has brought the Scottish game into serious disrepute but as yet has had no sanction applied successfully. The question of history has to be addressed: if Sevco FC claims the history of Rangers FC and that is allowed to be the case then it must accept the sanctions for its previous incarnations misdeeds. Personally I favour the no history, no sanctions route. But it has to be fully stated first that Sevco FC has no claim on the 54 titles won by Ranger FC 1872-2012 (RIP)

Great summary

[Moulin Yarns]

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What am I supposed to be lookin for?

Well, any news, team names, ticket prices????

All i got was an advert for Sky Sports

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[Jack]

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Anybody looked at the official Rangers website today?

http://www.rangers.co.uk/news/football-news-index

Oh its all gone quiet over there
Oh its all gone quiet over there
Oh its all gone quiet
All gone quiet
All gone quiet over there.

Shall we write a web page for you?