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    Surely what we want now is to ' a line drawn in the sand ' under this whole sorry mess and be thankful that commonsense finally prevailed.
    It is now up to the ' Legal Eagles ' to finish the job and sort out who was/were responsible in the first place. I say this because every club in Scotland will have suffered in varying degrees due the the mismanagement of one club.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Baldy Foghorn View Post
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    Evening News called me for a quote, and I said I was in two minds over the decision.

    On one hand I am delighted that fairness and integrity has been maintained, but on the other hand I am worried of the financial ramifications on Hibs over TV rights etc.....
    Agreed - this has been a mess from the start and I suspect there will be a few more twists and turns before it is finished.

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    They can't as it takes 2 seasons to change a league set up.... For one the season starts in less than 4 weeks, two.... A vote would be required by sfl and I suppose SPL teams to agree what sort of leagues are required.

    Frankly don't give a flying **** bout them... But it's clear ghat both Reagan and Doncaster do.

    Them not being in SPL opens it up for the others to win a few more games and get the crowds in.
    But this is Rangers, that seems to be the difference. Clubs must apply for entrance in to the bottom league of the SFL if they go out of business. But the SFA made clear last week that they would block Rangers being put in to Division 3. So they have demonstrated clearly here that the norm or the rules might as well be ripped up and thrown out the window in this case. Who knows what they will try and pull.

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    IMHO the ICT statement puts to bed any question of Doncaster not acting on the SPL clubs' behalf.

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    A huge well done to the clubs in the SFL who were put in a very difficult position thanks to the shameless threats and intimidation from the SFA and the SPL.

    The right and proper decision has been made today. This is NOT a punishment for Rangers, rather it is a direct consequence of the old club going out of existence and a new club replacing it and applying to replace it in the bottom tier of the SFL. I don't understand why people can't, or won't, comprehend this very basic fact and realise that it isn't a punishment for a brand new club to be placed in the bottom division of the league structure.

    I note that there is now talk of the SPL2 idea being pushed as a result of this decision and, for me, this reiterates the need for change within the authorities who run the game in Scotland. That's why there MUST be a campaign calling for the immediate resignations of Neil Doncaster and Stewart Regan from their positions within their respective organisations. Their positions are now untenable, following their disgraceful scaremongering tactics over the past few weeks, with Regan's conduct being particularly reprehensible.

    I hope now that we can get back to finally talking about football and that we can look forward to the new season which start in 3 weeks' time (or in 4 weeks' time if you're a Rangers fan! ). What the SPL finally need to do now is to make an urgent decision on whether Dundee or Dunfermline who will be replacing Rangers in the SPL for next season. Both clubs deserve to be informed as soon as possible as none of this is their fault and they need to be able to prepare for the league that they are going to be playing in next season.
    Last edited by Sir David Gray; 13-07-2012 at 04:40 PM.

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    I think this will be pushed through for next season (thus giving rangers an early release for good behavior) so they skip Div 2
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baldy Foghorn View Post
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    Evening News called me for a quote, and I said I was in two minds over the decision.

    On one hand I am delighted that fairness and integrity has been maintained, but on the other hand I am worried of the financial ramifications on Hibs over TV rights etc.....
    Bloody club spokesman

    I think your answer is spot on, anything less then we would all stop paying our bills. Folk have to stop talking about punishments, this is not a punishment, its the authorities following the rules.

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    In a late development Norris MacWhirter was seen pacing around Ibrox with a stop-watch apparently looking to confirm whether Duff and Phelps broke the world record for the longest time squandered in administration ;)
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs View Post
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    Bloody club spokesman

    I think your answer is spot on, anything less then we would all stop paying our bills. Folk have to stop talking about punishments, this is not a punishment, its the authorities following the rules.
    I gave your name though
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    Are Sevco actually in D3 though. Are they SFA members? Will other clubs with audited accounts such as Spartans not be allowed to bid for a league space?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Sea-gull View Post
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    Doncaster and Regan have not come out of this at all well and now seem like two staw clutching desperados.

    Surely they will resign or be punted as how can they continue heading up two major Scottish sporting organisations whose members clearly strongly disagree with their own stances and viewpoints.

    They have come out of this really badly. So has whoever cuts Doncaster's hair.
    He defo goes to Alfies. Home of the famous Shan Hair.

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    Im trying to keep up with everything and no doubt nothing ends with this decision. One thing bothers me though. Do we lose the chance for league reconstruction? Once we go through a year or two and we don't die through lack of playing OF 8 times a year can we move to a proper league playing teams twice a year. My worry is after 2/3 years they come back up and nothing else has changed. And we stay with the same crappy league we all hate so much. I dont care where Gers end up, though justice says they are where they should be. But if nothing else changes.....?

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    The Alloa chairman absoutley spot on on STV
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mainboy19 View Post
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    The Alloa chairman absoutley spot on on STV
    What did the guy say?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mainboy19 View Post
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    The Alloa chairman absoutley spot on on STV
    Just saw that he came across very well especially the bit about Regan dictating to the clubs
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    The SFL have had a fair and honest vote .... if the results good enough for them its good enough for me.

    I'm all for reconstruction of Scottish football, but not the formation of an SPL2 just to suit the Zombie Huns, in the light of an emphatic vote by the SFL..

    Its the job of all the powers that be in Scotland to now do everything they can to minimize the impact of any lost revenue. If the conduct of Regan and Doncaster up to now is anything to go by they aint the men for the job.

    Before this season is finished we should have one body running the game and rules in place to ensure this farce never happens again... IE. if you do a Rangers in the future the best you can expect is a place in the 3rd division .. if a place in the league at all, then there will be no doubt.

    Now FFS lets get on with the bloody football, with PLEASE no more stupid attempts to get the Zombies up the leagues faster ... this is done !!!


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    What's John Yorkston on about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MerseyHibee View Post
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    Are Sevco actually in D3 though. Are they SFA members? Will other clubs with audited accounts such as Spartans not be allowed to bid for a league space?
    They have applied for an SFA licence, but I am not sure that it has been granted yet. BTW, they don't need audited accounts for entry, only 1 year's (unaudited) accounts..... which, of course, they don't have.

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    Stewart Regan needs to be removed from his position ASAP

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    Inverness for one look like they will now try and get Rangers back in the SPL. So they voted previously expecting the SFL to do them a favour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibs0666 View Post
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    Staggering...

    From "slow lingering death" to "new opportunities".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy74 View Post
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    Inverness for one look like they will now try and get Rangers back in the SPL. So they voted previously expecting the SFL to do them a favour.
    Appalling if true......The votes have been cast, the result must remain.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy74 View Post
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    Inverness for one look like they will now try and get Rangers back in the SPL.
    How do you come to that conclusion?

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    The arrogance of some of these Rangers fans on Reporting Scotland is amazing - enjoy your trips to Elgin and Annan ya bams.

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    25/30 SPL clubs voted for Newco in Div3. Who were the 5???

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    2 of them were QOTS,and Hamilton.

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    All this talk about league reforms and fairer money distribution as well as a pyramid scheme with non-league teams. Are these all things that will only be considered if we allow Newco into the second level of Scottish football?

    There isn't a single board member in the Third Division that would think it was a good idea to accept the prospect of relegation to abyss in return for cash and 4 extra places in the top league. Why would anyone with any understanding of Scottish Football think that a 16 team SPL would excite the likes of East Stirlingshire, Albion Rovers, Clyde, and Queens Park, Elgin, Peterhead or anyone else? Especially when the SPL retains a minimum seating criteria which is some cases is 25 times those clubs average home gate and in a couple of cases would mean putting more seats into their football grounds than their town has folk.

    League reconstruction has been another matter on which consensus has been difficult to find. Both McLeish in his report and Neil Doncaster had previously stated that their preference had been for a 10-team top division, believing a 14 or 16-team league unworkable. mmmmmmm how loss of cash has somehow changed their mind now.

    More twists and turns to come next week? Who knows....

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    Quote Originally Posted by s.a.m View Post
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    2 of them were QOTS,and Hamilton.
    According to Alex Thomson on Channel 4, Berwick were another. Their chairman is/was a Rangers shareholder.

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