Captain McPake.

***Alfred E Newman*** · 28-01-2012 04:11 PM

It is maybe just another sign of the state of this once proud club but when a player signed on loan and with no allegence or ties to the club is given the honour of captaining the team after only a week at the club, it shows how desperate we have become.

**SaulGoodman** · 28-01-2012 04:12 PM

I can't think of anyone else to give it to.

**soupy** · 28-01-2012 04:13 PM

To be honest, I don't see the problem with it, did you see any other captains out there today!!!

**hibby67** · 28-01-2012 04:13 PM

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it is maybe just another sign of the state of this once proud club but when a player signed on loan and with no allegence or ties to the club is given the honour of captaining the team after only a week at the club, it shows how desperate we have become.

who would you suggest deserves it....

**SMAXXA** · 28-01-2012 04:13 PM

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It is maybe just another sign of the state of this once proud club but when a player signed on loan and with no allegence or ties to the club is given the honour of captaining the team after only a week at the club, it shows how desperate we have become.

A case of us having no leaders in the squad and we sign a leader apparently so a no brainer for me. I suspected as much and have no problem with it.

***Alfred E Newman*** · 28-01-2012 04:19 PM

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To be honest, I don't see the problem with it, did you see any other captains out there today!!!

Exactly what I said. It shows what a farcical situation the club has got itself into. I can`t think there will be many clubs where a player with no previous links is brought straight in as captain. Good luck to him but getting his marching orders today means more musical armbands next week.

**truehibernian** · 28-01-2012 04:21 PM

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It is maybe just another sign of the state of this once proud club but when a player signed on loan and with no allegence or ties to the club is given the honour of captaining the team after only a week at the club, it shows how desperate we have become.

Correct choice.....especially after the Generation Game way the armband was passed to GOC, Sproule then Hanlon......not one of those three with a leadership quality, not one that can read a game.

Today I was surprised at Booth's omission as Hanlon has been atrocious. Also mind boggling that Sproule evades the bench again.

***blackpoolhibs*** · 28-01-2012 04:23 PM

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Exactly what I said. It shows what a farcical situation the club has got itself into. I can`t think there will be many clubs where a player with no previous links is brought straight in as captain. Good luck to him but getting his marching orders today means more musical armbands next week.

To be fair, i think everyone knows we need to sign some better players and preferably ones with leadership qualities. Fenlon is addressing this situation, there would be mayhem here if he did not.

**SMAXXA** · 28-01-2012 04:25 PM

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Exactly what I said. It shows what a farcical situation the club has got itself into. I can`t think there will be many clubs where a player with no previous links is brought straight in as captain. Good luck to him but getting his marching orders today means more musical armbands next week.

He can play next week so wouldnt think so

**CMac1988** · 28-01-2012 04:36 PM

Fenlon's interview on HTV the other day suggested he doesn't make too much of a fuss about who's wearing the armband as he would like like too see 'captain's' accross the park.

**~~PISTOL1875~~** · 28-01-2012 04:49 PM

Mcpake is a far better option that GOC or that so-called football player Sproule..

**~~The Sea-gull~~** · 28-01-2012 05:02 PM

Yes a lack of candidates really. Another thing the previous manager has failed with. Murray, Hanlon, Gary o, Sproule, maybe o hanlon and now mcpake have all had the arm band. It has been thrown around like confeti.

***HFC 0-7*** · 28-01-2012 05:05 PM

Maybe they are hoping to secure him on a permanent deal after his loan spell. giving him the armband is maybe showing him how fenlon see's him fitting into the squad and giving him more reason to sign a permanent deal?

**random sub** · 28-01-2012 05:10 PM

agree with OP- sad to see a short term loan signing captaining Hibs on his debut- seems too cheap

**Sammy7nil** · 28-01-2012 05:14 PM

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It is maybe just another sign of the state of this once proud club but when a player signed on loan and with no allegence or ties to the club is given the honour of captaining the team after only a week at the club, it shows how desperate we have become.

I know what you are saying it simply highlights the shambles we are. We have no alternative in our squad we are Totally bereft of leaders.
It is a shocking state to let the club fall so far that a guy on loan can walk in and take the armband unchallenged. In no way am I slating mcPake it just highlights the lack of quality or grit in our squad.

**stoneyburn hibs** · 28-01-2012 05:35 PM

Its a bad sign when a player just arrived on loan , at the club for 1 week and is made captain , how bad must that dressing room be that not one of them is deemed a captain ?

And i would like to think the players are taking a long hard look at themselves after this decision

**~~Sherlock~~** · 28-01-2012 05:38 PM

Murray would have been captain if he played.

Stack would have been captain if he played.

None of the rest are leaders.

Plenty players go right in and become captains at clubs.

**~~stanton10~~** · 28-01-2012 06:06 PM

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Murray would have been captain if he played.

Stack would have been captain if he played.

None of the rest are leaders.

Plenty players go right in and become captains at clubs.

Name them,

**SMAXXA** · 28-01-2012 06:10 PM

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Name them,

Kevin Kyle?
Carlos Tevez?

**hibsbollah** · 28-01-2012 06:16 PM

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Its a bad sign when a player just arrived on loan , at the club for 1 week and is made captain , how bad must that dressing room be that not one of them is deemed a captain ?

And i would like to think the players are taking a long hard look at themselves after this decision

A potentially excellent decision by Pat, sends a clear message to McPake and the rest of the team. I have no idea if McPake will be a success or not but its strong and decisive leadership.

**stoneyburn hibs** · 28-01-2012 06:23 PM

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A potentially excellent decision by Pat, sends a clear message to McPake and the rest of the team. I have no idea if McPake will be a success or not but its strong and decisive leadership.

And i hope it turns out to be a good decision by fenlon , flipside is that it could be a loss of moral in the dressing room , thats if there is any of course.

**~~Sherlock~~** · 28-01-2012 06:27 PM

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Name them,

Russell Anderson
Kyle
Joey Barton
Garry O'Connor

**bob12345** · 28-01-2012 06:27 PM

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Kevin Kyle?
Carlos Tevez?

Craig Bellamy
Paul Hartley

***JimBHibees*** · 28-01-2012 06:28 PM

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And i hope it turns out to be a good decision by fenlon , flipside is that it could be a loss of moral in the dressing room , thats if there is any of course.

It is a good decision as he has shown with other clubs that he is a decent leader. Could care less whether anyone else in the dressing room is bothered by it.

**~~Sherlock~~** · 28-01-2012 06:28 PM

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And i hope it turns out to be a good decision by fenlon , flipside is that it could be a loss of moral in the dressing room , thats if there is any of course.

Dressing room stinks anyway, get the all to **** if they aren't happy.

Anyway, the only reason that McPake is captain is because Goodwin knocked us back

***Alfred E Newman*** · 28-01-2012 07:05 PM

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Russell Anderson
Kyle
Joey Barton
Garry O'Connor

And they were all in the first week of their loan spell?

**frazeHFC** · 28-01-2012 07:10 PM

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And they were all in the first week of their loan spell?

Last week the news said "Aberdeen are close to re-signing Russell Anderson, who will go straight in as captain". He hadn't even signed and was basically captain.

**frazeHFC** · 28-01-2012 07:11 PM

Surely if these factors:

Experience
Knows the game well
Leader
Good

Are all present in a player, then why not make them captain. If Fenlon sees these in him then fair do's, captaincy isn't just about being at the club for a long time.

**~~Sherlock~~** · 28-01-2012 07:11 PM

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And they were all in the first week of their loan spell?

Barton and Anderson went right into the club as captain as did Kyle. Loan or not it must be horrendous for them eh?

Where did a Kyle let tramps finish last season again?

There was a match I watched last week and the new signing was captain down south too. Can't mind the game though, maybe Leicester.

***greenlex*** · 28-01-2012 07:13 PM

It all depends if you are signing a captain I suppose or indeed need one.

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