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    Out of contract?

    I know Pat doesn't fancy agogo, thornhill or sodje so they will likely move on in january but who is out of contract in the summer? I'm sure i read somewhere that there were quite a few?


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    unfortunately it's not everyone.

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    O'Connor and Stevenson are out of contract too.

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    Stack and Brown too.

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    Pallson thankfully.

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    Are Thornhill, Agogo and Sodje out of contract in January? If not I cant see them moving anywhere - who would want them?

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    Are Thornhill, Agogo and Sodje out of contract in January? If not I cant see them moving anywhere - who would want them?
    I'm assuming they will want to head back down south to find new clubs rather than be frozen out up here?

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    Hopefully your right, but surely nobody is gonna give up a regular income to end up on the dole? Managers often say that you struggle to get quality players in the January window and these 3 prove that saying correct

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    From what I am hearing, I think we will see a very different Hibs next season, regardless of which league. I fully expect many of the 19's in the side with some real experience in key positions. PF rates the youngsters and again, only from a couple of coaches, is voicing that he would like to get them into the first team as soon as possible. As a massive supporter of promoting youth I can only see good times ahead.....assuming we get the spine of the team having the said necessary experience. From keeper to striker, through the middle of the park we should have good, wise old heads.......playing around them we should have youth, energy and vibrancy.


    There are those that will always advise with caution throwing youngsters in, especially when form is poor.....I am the opposite......they get a wee bit more grace, time and allowance from the support. For me 3 or 4 are ready........so put them in.


    Another thing I have noted is how good the support is away from home. Far more vocal, far more positive and far more generous this season. This simply has to be transformed at home.........howls of derision start from kick off, which for me, is unacceptable. Sorry to voice it but the home support has been really poor this season regardless of form. Quite venomous in places and directed at certain players. By all means we can have our say on players after the game and on messageboards (I most certainly do).....but get behind the lads despite what you think of them (at the game). And please....it's not a 'blame the fans' argument.....I just feel we have, in a way , let the club down a wee bit by being so ultra negative at home this season. Understandable to a point, but not when it's directed at players before kick off, during warm up's and when they are taking throw's, corners etc.....unacceptable for me, sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by truehibernian View Post
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    From what I am hearing, I think we will see a very different Hibs next season, regardless of which league. I fully expect many of the 19's in the side with some real experience in key positions. PF rates the youngsters and again, only from a couple of coaches, is voicing that he would like to get them into the first team as soon as possible. As a massive supporter of promoting youth I can only see good times ahead.....assuming we get the spine of the team having the said necessary experience. From keeper to striker, through the middle of the park we should have good, wise old heads.......playing around them we should have youth, energy and vibrancy.


    There are those that will always advise with caution throwing youngsters in, especially when form is poor.....I am the opposite......they get a wee bit more grace, time and allowance from the support. For me 3 or 4 are ready........so put them in.


    Another thing I have noted is how good the support is away from home. Far more vocal, far more positive and far more generous this season. This simply has to be transformed at home.........howls of derision start from kick off, which for me, is unacceptable. Sorry to voice it but the home support has been really poor this season regardless of form. Quite venomous in places and directed at certain players. By all means we can have our say on players after the game and on messageboards (I most certainly do).....but get behind the lads despite what you think of them (at the game). And please....it's not a 'blame the fans' argument.....I just feel we have, in a way , let the club down a wee bit by being so ultra negative at home this season. Understandable to a point, but not when it's directed at players before kick off, during warm up's and when they are taking throw's, corners etc.....unacceptable for me, sorry.
    Who are the 3 or 4 you think are ready for 1st team football?

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    January 2012

    Leigh Griffiths

    Summer 2012

    Graham Stack
    Michael Hart
    Ian Murray
    Garry O'Connor
    Lewis Stevenson
    Junior Agogo
    Victor Palsson
    Akpo Sodje
    Richie Towell
    Mark Brown
    Sean Welsh

    Summer 2013

    Sean O'Hanlon
    David Wotherspoon
    Danny Galbraith
    Matt Thornhill
    Ivan Sproule (Haven't actually found anything definite saying how long Sproule signed for but I think this is right)
    David Stephens
    Isaiah Osbourne
    Eoin Doyle

    Summer 2014

    Martin Scott
    Danny Handling

    Summer 2015

    Callum Booth

    Summer 2016

    Paul Hanlon
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    January 2012

    Leigh Griffiths

    Summer 2012

    Graham Stack
    Michael Hart
    Ian Murray
    Garry O'Connor
    Lewis Stevenson
    Junior Agogo
    Victor Palsson
    Akpo Sodje
    Richie Towell
    Mark Brown
    Sean Welsh

    Summer 2013

    Sean O'Hanlon
    David Wotherspoon
    Danny Galbraith
    Matt Thornhill
    Ivan Sproule (Haven't actually found anything definite saying how long Sproule signed for but I think this is right)
    David Stephens
    Isaiah Osbourne

    Summer 2014

    Martin Scott
    Danny Handling

    Summer 2015

    Callum Booth

    Summer 2016

    Paul Hanlon
    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FalkirkHibee View Post
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    January 2012

    Leigh Griffiths

    Summer 2012

    Graham Stack
    Michael Hart
    Ian Murray
    Garry O'Connor
    Lewis Stevenson
    Junior Agogo
    Victor Palsson
    Akpo Sodje
    Richie Towell
    Mark Brown
    Sean Welsh
    Shouldn't waste any time even trying to negotiate an extension for any of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldenhibby View Post
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    Who are the 3 or 4 you think are ready for 1st team football?
    Who knows goldenhibby......I am of the opinion that Scott Smith is most certainly worth bringing back and slotting into left back. I like the look of Handling before Caldwell I have to say. Very surprised Sean Welsh hasn't featured, especially when we have tried everyone esle at bloody right back....he is quite composed and good on the deck.

    We really really do lack both creativity from midfield and goals from midfield.....I cannot remember the last McGinlay type, someone who would get you 10 goals from the middle every week....we don't even have full backs that really get forward either.


    I do think we need to start getting them involved...........loans to the lower leagues are fine, but if you watch an Arbroath game or East Stirling game, for me, they don't really learn about the SPL and playing around better players. They make you more physical, true......but if you are a technical player, that should (and often does) overtake physicality.........I think we wrap up the young lads too much IMHO.

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    January 2012

    Leigh Griffiths

    Summer 2012

    Graham Stack
    Michael Hart
    Ian Murray
    Garry O'Connor
    Lewis Stevenson
    Junior Agogo
    Victor Palsson
    Akpo Sodje
    Richie Towell
    Mark Brown
    Sean Welsh

    Summer 2013

    Sean O'Hanlon
    David Wotherspoon
    Danny Galbraith
    Matt Thornhill
    Ivan Sproule (Haven't actually found anything definite saying how long Sproule signed for but I think this is right)
    David Stephens
    Isaiah Osbourne

    Summer 2014

    Martin Scott
    Danny Handling

    Summer 2015

    Callum Booth

    Summer 2016

    Paul Hanlon
    There's a glimmer of hope in all that. Almost all the players worth keeping on have longish contracts while almost all of those out of contract next year can either be punted in January or let go in the summer. If we survive this season then Fenlon can completely rebuild, hopefully bringing in some quality and experience to supplement Wotherspoon, Stephens, Booth, Osbourne, Hanlon and the other youngsters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by truehibernian View Post
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    ...I cannot remember the last McGinlay type, someone who would get you 10 goals from the middle every week...

    Must have been some player!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by patlowe View Post
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    There's a glimmer of hope in all that. Almost all the players worth keeping on have longish contracts while almost all of those out of contract next year can either be punted in January or let go in the summer. If we survive this season then Fenlon can completely rebuild, hopefully bringing in some quality and experience to supplement Wotherspoon, Stephens, Booth, Osbourne, Hanlon and the other youngsters.
    It's like Groundhog Day. A pity CC 'messed' up his chance to do this last year.

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    On a sidenote thornhill must be absolutely honking in training if fenlon thinks he would offer even less than towell did last night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FalkirkHibee View Post
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    January 2012

    Leigh Griffiths

    Summer 2012

    Graham Stack
    Michael Hart
    Ian Murray
    Garry O'Connor
    Lewis Stevenson
    Junior Agogo
    Victor Palsson
    Akpo Sodje
    Richie Towell
    Mark Brown
    Sean Welsh
    Eoin Doyle

    Summer 2013

    Sean O'Hanlon
    David Wotherspoon
    Danny Galbraith
    Matt Thornhill
    Ivan Sproule (Haven't actually found anything definite saying how long Sproule signed for but I think this is right)
    David Stephens
    Isaiah Osbourne

    Summer 2014

    Martin Scott
    Danny Handling

    Summer 2015

    Callum Booth

    Summer 2016

    Paul Hanlon
    Doyle is Summer 2013 - unless you've heard he's already looking to move on sooner.

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    Doyle is Summer 2013 - unless you've heard he's already looking to move on sooner.
    So he is.

    I knew he had signed for 18 months but for some reason thought that we were still in 2010.

    Now changed.

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    When does LG loan contract expire ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NJ Hibee View Post
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    When does LG loan contract expire ?
    9th January.

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    Quote Originally Posted by puff the dragon View Post
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    Shouldn't waste any time even trying to negotiate an extension for any of them.
    MM At Wolves is on record saying he does not want LG Back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bingo70 View Post
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    On a sidenote thornhill must be absolutely honking in training if fenlon thinks he would offer even less than towell did last night.
    Think it's an attitude thing with Thornhill (and Agogo) rather than ability.

    Sure Billy Brown will have marked his new gaffer's card in terms of who has got the right stuff and who hasn't.

    Thornhill arrived injured, had one or two games AT BEST where he looked like there might be something there and then gave a performance in the Derby at Tynecastle that was a disgrace. Not been seen since. Is he still injured?

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    January 2012

    Leigh Griffiths

    Summer 2012

    Graham Stack
    Michael Hart
    Ian Murray
    Garry O'Connor
    Lewis Stevenson
    Junior Agogo
    Victor Palsson
    Akpo Sodje
    Richie Towell
    Mark Brown
    Sean Welsh

    Summer 2013

    Sean O'Hanlon
    David Wotherspoon
    Danny Galbraith
    Matt Thornhill
    Ivan Sproule (Haven't actually found anything definite saying how long Sproule signed for but I think this is right)
    David Stephens
    Isaiah Osbourne
    Eoin Doyle

    Summer 2014

    Martin Scott
    Danny Handling

    Summer 2015

    Callum Booth

    Summer 2016

    Paul Hanlon

    at least

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    at least
    It's going to be tough to get rid of players who have 18 months left on their contracts, unless clubs come in with an offer to buy them, which I can't possibly imagine that anyone will be willing to do with any of our players.

    Personally, I would quite happily get rid of;

    Hart
    Murray
    Agogo
    Sodje
    Palsson
    Towell
    O'Hanlon
    Wotherspoon
    Galbraith
    Thornhill
    Stephens
    Scott

    Which would give us a squad of;

    Stack
    Brown
    Hanlon
    Booth
    Stevenson
    Sproule
    Osbourne
    Welsh
    Handling
    O'Connor
    Griffiths
    Doyle

    Of those 11 players remaining (I'm not including Doyle as I've never seen him), I wouldn't be bothered if any of them left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by horseflesh View Post
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    Are Thornhill, Agogo and Sodje out of contract in January? If not I cant see them moving anywhere - who would want them?

    Birmingham?
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    It's going to be tough to get rid of players who have 18 months left on their contracts, unless clubs come in with an offer to buy them, which I can't possibly imagine that anyone will be willing to do with any of our players.

    Personally, I would quite happily get rid of;

    Hart
    Murray
    Agogo
    Sodje
    Palsson
    Towell
    O'Hanlon
    Wotherspoon
    Galbraith
    Thornhill
    Stephens
    Scott

    Which would give us a squad of;

    Stack
    Brown
    Hanlon
    Booth
    Stevenson
    Sproule
    Osbourne
    Welsh
    Handling
    O'Connor
    Griffiths
    Doyle

    Of those 11 players remaining (I'm not including Doyle as I've never seen him), I wouldn't be bothered if any of them left.
    aye true, i was thinking in an ideal world who i'd get shot of first. from your choice, i would agree with you for the most part, but i'd opt to keep wotherspoon, scott, murray and maybe if id had a few drams galbraith.

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    [QUOTE=FalkirkHibee;3054692]January 2012

    Leigh Griffiths - Get Rid

    Summer 2012

    Graham Stack - Keep
    Michael Hart - Get Rid
    Ian Murray - Get him as a coach
    Garry O'Connor - Keep (if possible)
    Lewis Stevenson - Keep
    Junior Agogo - Get Rid
    Victor Palsson - Get Rid
    Akpo Sodje - Get Rid
    Richie Towell - Undecided
    Mark Brown - Get Rid
    Sean Welsh - One year deal

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    [QUOTE=Sergeant Hibs;3055059]
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    January 2012

    Leigh Griffiths - Get Rid

    Summer 2012

    Graham Stack - Keep
    Michael Hart - Get Rid
    Ian Murray - Get him as a coach
    Garry O'Connor - Keep (if possible)
    Lewis Stevenson - Keep
    Junior Agogo - Get Rid
    Victor Palsson - Get Rid
    Akpo Sodje - Get Rid
    Richie Towell - UndecidedMark Brown - Get Rid
    Sean Welsh - One year deal
    Towell is only here on loan so it may not be our decision, personally I would put him back to Celtic now if it helped PF get another player in.

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