Pat Fenlon

**Ozyhibby** · 24-12-2011 04:42 PM

We have a defence that has shipped about 120 goals in the last 2 years and the first thing the new manager does is sign a striker.
If he carries on like this we'll be looking for a new manager before 2012 is out.

**The_Todd** · 24-12-2011 04:45 PM

Harsh. The transfer window's not even open yet, so I don't see the problem. He knew Doyle was available as the LOI season has finished. Are you saying he should have signed some random LOI defenders for the sake of signing a defender?

I didn't think we'd turn on PF this quickly!

**PeterboroHibee** · 24-12-2011 04:47 PM

We are a week away from the transfer window being open and you are moaning about the new managers signings? Get a grip. Hes signed a striker who was on form last season, and giving that we are hardly firing up front, its a good thing imo.

He identified all 3 areas of the pitch as needing proper leaders and experience during his interview on the BBC tonight, and said they are working to get players in, so just be patient. Got the impression that he has the same feelings as all of the fans ie they are rubbish.

**Franck Stanton** · 24-12-2011 04:53 PM

FFS get a grip man, Fenlon had a couple of defenders over on trial a few weeks back didn't he. He obviously knows the areas to strengthen, as for signing a striker, we aren't exactly over-endowed with quality in that department now are we ? Especially if the rumours about GOC and Rangers are to be believed. IF we get to the end of the window and Fenlon hasn't strengthened the defence, then thats the time to slate him, certainly not a week before the window has even opened.

**Ozyhibby** · 24-12-2011 04:55 PM

I'm not turning on him yet. We clearly have a bunch of players who could get Jose Mourinho the sack. I'm just anxious that the limited budget we have is spent well.
If we are only able to bring in 4 players then I would prefer if we brought in 3 defenders and a creative midfielder. We could have struggled by with the forwards we have IMHO.

**The_Todd** · 24-12-2011 04:58 PM

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I'm not turning on him yet. We clearly have a bunch of players who could get Jose Mourinho the sack. I'm just anxious that the limited budget we have is spent well.
If we are only able to bring in 4 players then I would prefer if we brought in 3 defenders and a creative midfielder. We could have struggled by with the forwards we have IMHO.

I beg to differ:
GOC linked with a move to Der Hun
Griffiths loan expires 9th January, not extended yet.

**Ozyhibby** · 24-12-2011 04:58 PM

We are not scoring goals because we are not creating chances at all. Our forwards hardly see the ball during the game.

Elephant Stone · 24-12-2011 04:58 PM

I also have doubts about his signing policy, 0 transfer windows is clearly more than enough to make his mark on the team.

**Ozyhibby** · 24-12-2011 05:00 PM

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I beg to differ:
GOC linked with a move to Der Hun
Griffiths loan expires 9th January, not extended yet.

If that is the case (they are leaving) then fair enough but if they are still here in Feb then we have wasted a signing.

**Postman** · 24-12-2011 05:01 PM

What a ridiculous opening post! He won't be the last and was also wanted by other clubs if the papers are to be believed and we got in before them to get him signed up a week before the window opens!! He'll get my 100% backing in all he does for a good while yet, he's taken on a hell of a task with this squad of players so to question him before we've seen even one of his signings play is crazy. There will be quality players in most positions in the LOI so here's hoping he has a few in mind and we can afford them

***R'Albin*** · 24-12-2011 05:02 PM

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We have a defence that has shipped about 120 goals in the last 2 years and the first thing the new manager does is sign a striker.
If he carries on like this we'll be looking for a new manager before 2012 is out.

Dearie me!

**marinello59** · 24-12-2011 05:04 PM

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We have a defence that has shipped about 120 goals in the last 2 years and the first thing the new manager does is sign a striker.
If he carries on like this we'll be looking for a new manager before 2012 is out.

Unbelievable. He is just in the door and hasn't had a transfer window to work in. . Some Hibs fans get the team they deserve.

**Ozyhibby** · 24-12-2011 05:04 PM

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What a ridiculous opening post! He won't be the last and was also wanted by other clubs if the papers are to be believed and we got in before them to get him signed up a week before the window opens!! He'll get my 100% backing in all he does for a good while yet, he's taken on a hell of a task with this squad of players so to question him before we've seen even one of his signings play is crazy. There will be quality players in most positions in the LOI so here's hoping he has a few in mind and we can afford them

I'm not questioning the players ability at all. I hope he is a fantastic player.
I was just expressing my preference for shoring up our defence and adding some creativity to our midfield.

**Postman** · 24-12-2011 05:09 PM

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I'm not questioning the players ability at all. I hope he is a fantastic player.
I was just expressing my preference for shoring up our defence and adding some creativity to our midfield.

So we should ignore players in other positions that you feel aren't as important until we sign defenders? I was there today and I can tell you we desperately need all positions replaced and on top of that our two top strikers are currently loan players and the one who was up front todays deal expires in a week I believe!!

**~~The_Horde~~** · 24-12-2011 05:11 PM

I think its strikers and general attack minded players that we need!

We need players who are capable of taking the pressure off the defence and taking the game to teams.

***BoltonHibee*** · 24-12-2011 05:11 PM

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I'm not questioning the players ability at all. I hope he is a fantastic player.
I was just expressing my preference for shoring up our defence and adding some creativity to our midfield.

As long as he is not our only January capture, otherwise your sentiments would be justified.

**Sir David Gray** · 24-12-2011 05:13 PM

I've no doubts whatsoever that Fenlon realises that the defence is rubbish and needs improvement.

However, it's not as if defence is the only weak area of the team and we're particularly strong elsewhere.

In fact, it's worth noting that we've scored the least amount of goals in the league so far this season. There have also been 9 games this season where we have failed to score.

It remains to be seen if Eoin Doyle will be a success at Hibs, but I see nothing wrong with a striker being our first signing under Fenlon.

**BEEJ** · 24-12-2011 05:15 PM

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If that is the case (they are leaving) then fair enough but if they are still here in Feb then we have wasted a signing.

Agogo confirmed as departing - or may even have already left. So the Doyle signing will be justified in any event.

Even if PF had signed a defender or midfielder this week, they would not have been able to play until 1 January.

Don't see your point, caller.

**Robinho08** · 24-12-2011 05:15 PM

Get a grip.

Anyway, PF had a defender on trial too but decided against signing him.

**steakbake** · 24-12-2011 05:20 PM

Madness. Fenlon doesn't even need to be manager to see that we don't score anywhere near enough goals. We're a one trick pony, with O'Connor up front who is far from the talented player we used to know and love. Yes, he's scored more of our goals than any other player, but in our position, we cannot afford to carry passengers and while he's getting his head together off the field (or nursing a sore toe as we're told today), we're a man down.

Griffiths can't do it all on his own. Agogo and Sodje have hardly set the heather alight either.

So I have no problem whatsoever that one of the first priority signings we make is a striker because looking at the situation for what it is, we have Griffiths till the 9th Jan, Agogo and Sodje who are more miss than hit and O'Connor who may/may not be off to the Huns but even if he isn't, his various court appearances and off-field shenanigans have affected what was otherwise a bright start.

If anything, I think we need another striker as well as Doyle.

***HFC 0-7*** · 24-12-2011 05:24 PM

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We have a defence that has shipped about 120 goals in the last 2 years and the first thing the new manager does is sign a striker.
If he carries on like this we'll be looking for a new manager before 2012 is out.

He will know the defence is a priority but do you not thing it would be very silly to pass up on a promising striker who will probably only be available for a short time, just because the defence is a priority? He had a defender on trial I believe but never signed him so he is looking. When the vast majority of players arent available to sign at the moment, having a pop at the manager for not signing is a bit harsh.

***SteveHFC*** · 24-12-2011 05:26 PM

Get a grip FFS. 3 games in and your criticize him already. It isn't his fault he has to work with these brainless *****

**Lago** · 24-12-2011 05:32 PM

Well that was a pretty short honey moon period for Pat. You couldn't make it up.

***judas*** · 24-12-2011 05:37 PM

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We have a defence that has shipped about 120 goals in the last 2 years and the first thing the new manager does is sign a striker.
If he carries on like this we'll be looking for a new manager before 2012 is out.

Looking for a rise are we?

3 games into his management. Your criticism is nauseating.

**Ozyhibby** · 24-12-2011 05:54 PM

Maybe I am just a little nervous after last seasons worst defence in the SPL only saw one change (Bamba out, o'hanlon in).
Hopefully I will be proved wrong and by the end of January we will have signed 3 quality defenders and a creative midfielder.
We will have to wait and see but I'm not holding my breath.

**Cropley10** · 24-12-2011 05:55 PM

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I'm not turning on him yet.

**HUTCHYHIBBY** · 24-12-2011 05:59 PM

I'm quite down on Hibs these days, but, FFS man have a word!

***tamig*** · 24-12-2011 06:01 PM

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We have a defence that has shipped about 120 goals in the last 2 years and the first thing the new manager does is sign a striker.
If he carries on like this we'll be looking for a new manager before 2012 is out.

Out of order bud I'm afraid.

**Teuchter Hibbie** · 24-12-2011 06:12 PM

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What a ridiculous opening post! He won't be the last and was also wanted by other clubs if the papers are to be believed and we got in before them to get him signed up a week before the window opens!! He'll get my 100% backing in all he does for a good while yet, he's taken on a hell of a task with this squad of players so to question him before we've seen even one of his signings play is crazy. There will be quality players in most positions in the LOI so here's hoping he has a few in mind and we can afford them

cant believe after 3 and a half games (and a decent increase in the team's performance as well) people are turning on him. utter nonsense.