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OK, that's now both Rangers and Celtc interested.
What I want to know is,
A) Did Hibs lie to the fans when they said there was NO possibility of being allowed to have terracing in the newly built East Stand and they actually hadn't even asked?
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B) Is it the case that they told Hibs no and the authorities have rolled over to the OF now that they want it?
Either way, something stinks.
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Thread: Rangers to consider Terracing
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23-12-2011 12:25 PM #1
Rangers to consider Terracing
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23-12-2011 12:33 PM #2
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23-12-2011 12:35 PM #3
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With the state the old terrace area was in major repairs would have to have been carried out to get it upto a respectable standard, bearing in mind, Hibs had plans to build a new stand long before the terrace idea was even placed on the agenda at SFA or SPL HQ.
Think your looking for something that aint there. Lets concentrate on supporting the club in getting 3 points tomorrow
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23-12-2011 12:47 PM #4
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23-12-2011 01:00 PM #5
I think now would be an ideal time to fill in the corners! Four areas for standing space but controlled areas. All it would take would be extending the roof, back and some form of concrete type slope. Bet it would cost less than £2mil to do it all.
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23-12-2011 01:02 PM #6
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I think even converting a few of the current seats to safe standing wouldn't be worth the cost for us.
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23-12-2011 01:08 PM #7
At the time the stand was built it was not possible and probably never envisaged to be even suggested, Hibs were right in what they said at the time.
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If Hibs have included no provision for reverse engineering standing areas for the East, then this is a failure of management. And not the only one in recent times, unfortunately.
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23-12-2011 01:51 PM #9This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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23-12-2011 04:09 PM #10This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
just a thought ...
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23-12-2011 04:19 PM #11
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Why should the club have spent more money on building a stand to suit taking seats out of it for a then totally hypothetical reintroduction of standing?
For what it's worth, I can't imagine it being too much more than removing a few rows of seats, but on the other hand, is there a vast number of folk who currently don't go to games who will only go back if they can stand? Because if there isn't this will simply lose us money.
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23-12-2011 04:24 PM #12
Remove the seats at the bottom of the FF. The cost? Obtain another long term loan from STF. (personal fortune £160,000,000 and counting ). Over time it will pay for itself. No cost to Hibernian or STF. Increased atmosphere in the ground.
Happy days
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23-12-2011 04:27 PM #14
Surely all you have to do is put some sort of barrier above each seat about waist height that you can lean on,so the person behind you cant fall onto you.
Theres no need to remove any seats,youd just be standing instead of being seated
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23-12-2011 04:52 PM #15
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I think it would be a great idea but it would be better doing it in the FF stand rather than the corners as then the increased atmosphere would be concentrated and not diluted by being split into 4 parts.
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23-12-2011 05:58 PM #16This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
During the 'consultation exercise', we were told that any plans for terracing to be part of the build were NOT an option, because of SPL/SFA rules.
Now, my point is that either they didn't really ask or it's suddenly only OK to consider changing the rules because the OF are now interested in terracing.
My ideal rebuilt East Stand would have had two tiers with terracing in the lower tier, with around 4-5,000 standing places. We were told that wasn't an option so I'm wondering exactly what and how that situation has now changed.
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Don't delude yourself into thinking that such an operation would be inexpensive. Extending the roof will be very expensive
The police have yet to be consulted and agree to standing. It is much the same with the local authority.
Standing areas will certainly increase costs of policing and stewarding.
Standing spectators will expect to pay reduced admission charges.
So spend a lot of money to reduce income and make the ground appear emptier.
I bet Hibs are consulting the Architects at this very moment.
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23-12-2011 07:34 PM #19
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Standing ain't what it used to be in the safe standing areas. It would not being back all the attributes that made it interesting.
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23-12-2011 07:57 PM #20
I'm all for it. We need to do everything we can to bring fans back to the games. We could easily remove some seats and
sell the same amount of tickets for standing. We could easily do it safely. Don't know of it would work but we need to try everything we can to bring fans back to ER.
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The fourth will house the jumbo tv after the Olympics when the council will have no use for it.
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23-12-2011 09:00 PM #22
If Hibs pay to bring back standing, I'll piss down someone's back for free. The complete experience.
HTH.
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23-12-2011 10:51 PM #23
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Just cos the SPL have said it was ok does not its going to happen. Council officials and police won't be to keen on this. But would it surprise any one if the new community stadium had 3 terraces and 1 stand.
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23-12-2011 11:05 PM #24
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Most of the issues around standing could be solved by the simple expediency - like they have at Swansea - of a mixed area - seasons and walk ups - that doesn't involve numbered seats. It means those who go every week stay with a mix of their mates - some of whom can't be there every time because of work, distance or sloth.
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Any conversion of the FF lower would entail relocating a large number of season ticket holdersand causing real disruption.
How many want to stand anyway? I suspect that most who do already stand.
Probably the only grounds capable of introducing standing areas are Ibrox, Parkhead and Tynecastle. In all cases this would be the old paddock area in from of the main stand. These areas were designed for standing in the first place and could be converted albeit at a cost.
In any event it is only been approved for a trial period. What happens if millions are spent in conversion and the stands have to be converted back if the trial does not go well?
The cost would certainly rule out Ibrox and Tynecastle given the 'financial situation' of the clubs. Would Glasgow City Council and Strathclyde Police be happy to see Celtic go it alone on this one?
The whole thing is a publicity stunt by the SPL to try and prove they are 'giving the fans what they ask for'. They will shrug their shoulders if the clubs fail to run with this one or it is torpedoed by the Police or Local Authorities.
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24-12-2011 06:58 AM #28
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Could we not do this at one end of the east for example?
http://stadiumdb.com/pictures/stadiu...ce_arena06.jpg
or this:
http://footballgrounds1.zoomshare.co...6590/thumb.jpg
seats to the left, right and above on one tier at same level
can even have top tier standing like in away end at hannover with seats below
http://ultras-frankfurt.de/galerie/0...annover/08.jpg
top tier seats and standing below like the famous five option are ten a penny and most likely for us perhaps?
There are plenty options so it can happen....if Hibs are willing to shell out after completing the stadium based on the previous rules.
I've no idea why folk are raising the filling in the corners pipedream once more. we were told before that the costs for filling corners are massive and we already have a 20k stadium we are nowhere near filling so why go to even more cost??
People have asked if the East is too steep - not sure if it's any steeper than Dresden's away end which was built around 3 years ago
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_pMH5tRjD7v...0/P1010714.JPG
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