A banner for Saturday against Mc Bride. Thoughts.

[SoL]

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No offence but that's the sort of 'stick your head in the sand' attitude that we mock Celtic, Rangers and Hearts fans for. If someone had said that Hibs fans were, in the main, racist would you still think that we shouldn't refute it?

Beefster I disagree, these are the actions of a man who is using the "everyone else does it-so why are we getting pulled up for it " argument. His fundamental error is that the example he has given, Hibs, is a bad one and his accusations have no foundation whatsoever. We all know that we are not a sectarian club and that we do not sing the songs he has accused us of, he has only picked on us because of the ramifications of choosing another club (not far away from his own).

It seems to me that these are the actions of a silly man, using a silly argument to deflect the attention away from his own organisation, therefore IMHO he should be ignored.

I though lawyers were supposed to be smart.

[Beefster]

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Beefster I disagree, these are the actions of a man who is using the "everyone else does it-so why are we getting pulled up for it " argument. His fundamental error is that the example he has given, Hibs, is a bad one and his accusations have no foundation whatsoever. We all know that we are not a sectarian club and that we do not sing the songs he has accused us of, he has only picked on us because of the ramifications of choosing another club (not far away from his own).

It seems to me that these are the actions of a silly man, using a silly argument to deflect the attention away from his own organisation, therefore IMHO he should be ignored.

I though lawyers were supposed to be smart.

McBride's comments were reported in the national press AFAIK. If they aren't refuted, it will leave some readers with the belief that we do chant pro-IRA stuff.

[Spike Mandela]

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No offence but that's the sort of 'stick your head in the sand' attitude that we mock Celtic, Rangers and Hearts fans for. If someone had said that Hibs fans were, in the main, racist would you still think that we shouldn't refute it?

The club has refuted it. We are now perpetuating the story if we keep going on about it. Time to rise above it not stick your head in the sand.

[seal]

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The club has refuted it. We are now perpetuating the story if we keep going on about it. Time to rise above it not stick your head in the sand.

This guy McBride LOVES publicity. Why brings banners which highlight him? Club statement is enough.

[mickki40]

Anyway, back to the original idea. "WHO IS WILLING TO DONATE?" send via paypal to hibs12thman@hotmail.co.uk

Personally if I am making the banner I would like Hibernian.f.c. football is our religion. Depending on donations it would also be possible to do a Paul Mc Bride Liar one as well. Myself and another guy are willing to get into the studio on Friday after work and get it done. Let's not lie down folks. GGTTH

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

Perhaps a bigger gesture is rather than donate and make a banner, how about a collection for Nil by Mouth and a polite invitation for McBride to match it?

[Hibee_Dave]

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I would like Hibernian FC: football is our religion.

Yasssss! You heard it here first!

[1two]

If you're going I do it we may as well make it worth while

How about

Paul McBride, go **** yourself you lying **** bag

[At The Edge]

i would have liked
RoboRod......is looking for you
or
Rod Dredd.....Dealing with the liars and Cheats.

[Lendo]

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Yes!

straight to the point!

'PAUL MCBRIDE QC - LIAR'

[Houchy]

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If you're going to go to the trouble of producing a banner, it should probably say something a bit more forthright than "We're not sectarian."

How about

Stick your 'OOH AH' up your 'RArse', McBride

Should get a bit of media coverage...

Non sectarian since 1875

[Keith_M]

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Non sectarian since 1875

Ehm, that could be counter-productive. A good lawyer would be able to disprove that. You'd need to make it 1893.

[mickki40]

Lots of suggestions guys and they are appreciated. Hopefully we will get donators when folks get home from work tonight though, I would love to see a banner, even if it goes to show that we as supporters don't tolerate the Crap than comes out of that guys mouth. He is trying to detract from his own Club. donations please via paypal... hibs12thman@hotmail.co.uk

[HFC07]

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How about something more like

"Hibernian fc: FOOTBALL is our religion"

GGTTH

Yeah go with this simple ant to the point.

[Gatecrasher]

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"Hibernian fc: FOOTBALL is our religion"

[nonshinyfinish]

Donation sent.

[Chuck Rhoades]

We now have people agreed to meet up and get this made in time for Saturday. Possibility of two banners.

Any donations would really help with materials/paints/rent for hall. Thanks again.

Still can't believe the arrogance of that twat McBride!!

[Chuck Rhoades]

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Donation sent.

Top bloke - much appreciated

[Moulin Yarns]

A chant for when the smelly celts come to Easter road

We are Hibernian, we're not sectarian

repeated ad infinitum

[mickki40]

Thanks to the donators so far. We still need more though. as soon as we reach our target the hall will be booked. The whole process will be photographed and posted on Hibs.net if we are allowed. 2 of us will take Friday off and make sure we get them finished in time for saturday. Thanks again.

Donations can be sent to paypal the address is

hibs12thman@hotmail.co.uk

Thanks once again folks. Lets not be trampled on by this idiot.

[Elephant Stone]

Have you decided on what it's going to say?

[mickki40]

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Have you decided on what it's going to say?

"Hibernian fc: FOOTBALL is our religion"

and maybe a smaller one that says Paul Mcbride Q.C = LIAR

[Chuck Rhoades]

Donations have favoured towards:

Hibernian: Football Is Out Religion

and

PAUL MCBRIDE - LIAR

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

Perhaps to keep on the right side of legal, it should say, Paul McBride QC= Lair.
Two points for the price of one.

[kennyh]

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Donations have favoured towards:

Hibernian: Football Is Out Religion

and

PAUL MCBRIDE - LIAR

Donation sent ~ personally although he started this I dont think he should be named on any banner. "Hibernian: Football Is Out Religion" makes the point clearly withour giving him any more publicity

[Joe Baker II]

Depends what McBride means exactly but it is a myth that songs that could be referred to as in support of the IRA have never been heard from Hibs fans in recent years, certainly they were clearly audible in 1990s. And I heard 3-4 Hibs fan shout Up the Ra at game against Hearts last season. And have also heard some Hibs fans singing The Famine Song in last 2 years.

Not that I neccesarily have any problem with this, just as one should not only associate the Briitsh Armed forces with Amritsar, Irish famine, the Culloden aftermath etc there is more to the IRA than the worst provisional IRA atrocities.

Also notthing wrong per se with being sectarian - there may be case for a banner referring to sectarian hatred but that is different.

[Chuck Rhoades]

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Donation sent ~ personally although he started this I dont think he should be named on any banner. "Hibernian: Football Is Out Religion" makes the point clearly withour giving him any more publicity

Much obliged!

[Joe Baker II]

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A great big "WE BACK THE BILL" would do for me.

This would be embarassing if anyone takes most of the nonsense posted above seriously! The background to the nonsensical proposed Bill makes it clear that Hibs will be one of the 4 clubs specifically targeted, though as per my above post, on its flawed logic there is some justiifcation for this!

[nonshinyfinish]

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Depends what McBride means exactly but it is a myth that songs that could be referred to as in support of the IRA have never been heard from Hibs fans in recent years, certainly they were clearly audible in 1990s. And I heard 3-4 Hibs fan shout Up the Ra at game against Hearts last season. And have also heard some Hibs fans singing The Famine Song in last 2 years.

I think it was pretty clear from what he said that he was claiming that significant numbers of Hibs fans currently sing IRA songs.

[Sir David Gray]

Would rather not have one mentioning religion, since IRA chants don't really have anything to do with religion anyway and I'm not too comfortable with one about football being a religion, but that's just me.

Personally would go with one along the lines of;

"Paul McBride-Your lies have been exposed"

Then one directly under it saying;

"We support our team, not terrorists"

Or even if people would rather not mention McBride at all, the last one on its own would get the point across pretty well as I think everyone would know what we meant.