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    A bit quieter tonight

    Very quiet on the board compared to last week.

    Before the montherwell game we were showing signs of getting there. However, we had a really poor 1st half, lost the game and this board went into meltdown (again).

    Im under no illusions, this is not a strong team. However the hysteria on here is way over the top. Anyone can see that confidence is a big issue on the park and I dont get the desire to pounce on every bad result and performance the way we do here. Yes, its not the best squad we have ever had. Yes there are doubts over the manager but the facts are that we are a couple of results away from a decent league position and 1 game away from a semi final.

    It really seems to me that certain posters only come into their own when there is bad news and are strangely absent when we get a result.


    Views are what makes this board go round, but lets have a sense of perspective.

    Im now waiting for the "clueless colin" brigade to focus on giving away the lead, poor substitutions or how Ian Murray is too slow or once gave the fans the bird.

    Positives - there are goals in this team, Osborne may well be a player, OConnor is the best striker in the league, Stevenson did well today.

    However, its a young team and confidence is a big thing. I hope we can back a good result against an in form side.

    Lets kick on Hibs!!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by keep the faith View Post
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    Very quiet on the board compared to last week.

    Before the montherwell game we were showing signs of getting there. However, we had a really poor 1st half, lost the game and this board went into meltdown (again).

    Im under no illusions, this is not a strong team. However the hysteria on here is way over the top. Anyone can see that confidence is a big issue on the park and I dont get the desire to pounce on every bad result and performance the way we do here. Yes, its not the best squad we have ever had. Yes there are doubts over the manager but the facts are that we are a couple of results away from a decent league position and 1 game away from a semi final.

    It really seems to me that certain posters only come into their own when there is bad news and are strangely absent when we get a result.


    Views are what makes this board go round, but lets have a sense of perspective.

    Im now waiting for the "clueless colin" brigade to focus on giving away the lead, poor substitutions or how Ian Murray is too slow or once gave the fans the bird.

    Positives - there are goals in this team, Osborne may well be a player, OConnor is the best striker in the league, Stevenson did well today.

    However, its a young team and confidence is a big thing. I hope we can back a good result against an in form side.

    Lets kick on Hibs!!!!
    Could argue that you are as guilty waiting to say to the people whom have not been so favourable to CC? You mention pounce on every bad result unfortunatly that if you look at his record is all there is to discuss most weeks cr@p results so I would hardly say pounce more the norm, like it or not today is the exception rather than the rule, I am happy we won and he got it right today but I think he is a very bad manager and I want him out. Views are indeed what makes board go round but the only perspective I see is we have a poor manger with a few good players stumbling about week to week that is borne out by our record.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keep the faith View Post
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    Very quiet on the board compared to last week.

    Before the montherwell game we were showing signs of getting there. However, we had a really poor 1st half, lost the game and this board went into meltdown (again).

    Im under no illusions, this is not a strong team. However the hysteria on here is way over the top. Anyone can see that confidence is a big issue on the park and I dont get the desire to pounce on every bad result and performance the way we do here. Yes, its not the best squad we have ever had. Yes there are doubts over the manager but the facts are that we are a couple of results away from a decent league position and 1 game away from a semi final.

    It really seems to me that certain posters only come into their own when there is bad news and are strangely absent when we get a result.


    Views are what makes this board go round, but lets have a sense of perspective.

    Im now waiting for the "clueless colin" brigade to focus on giving away the lead, poor substitutions or how Ian Murray is too slow or once gave the fans the bird.

    Positives - there are goals in this team, Osborne may well be a player, OConnor is the best striker in the league, Stevenson did well today.

    However, its a young team and confidence is a big thing. I hope we can back a good result against an in form side.

    Lets kick on Hibs!!!!
    It has to be said but I find the tone of your post is a bit odd but it's your opinion and well done for sticking up for what you believe and if you are quite happy to accept this mediocroty then fine, but not me.

    It's great the message board is a bit quieter, more out of relief than anything else I would have thought, but in reality we were due a result at some point even by the law of averages.

    Let's let's have a sense of perspective - aye, he's an imposter, let's kick on Hibs and kick him out.

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    Delighted we won today, but it only marginally changes his record and doesn't stop being our worse manager of the last ten years.

    At worst: relegation candidates.

    At best: going nowhere.

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    I was watching paranormal activity 3 in carlisle today and drinking in the pub afterwards; I'd given up on a decent performance and result to be honest - that's my excuse anyway!

    Glad we have another win under our belt of course.

    Defence still seems to be a major issue though.

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    I was watching paranormal activity 3 in carlisle today and drinking in the pub afterwards; I'd given up on a decent performance and result to be honest - that's my excuse anyway!

    Glad we have another win under our belt of course.
    While those who went through to Paisley who were simply watching abnormal activity - a victory for Calderwood's Hibs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keep the faith View Post
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    Very quiet on the board compared to last week.

    Before the montherwell game we were showing signs of getting there. However, we had a really poor 1st half, lost the game and this board went into meltdown (again).

    Im under no illusions, this is not a strong team. However the hysteria on here is way over the top. Anyone can see that confidence is a big issue on the park and I dont get the desire to pounce on every bad result and performance the way we do here. Yes, its not the best squad we have ever had. Yes there are doubts over the manager but the facts are that we are a couple of results away from a decent league position and 1 game away from a semi final.

    It really seems to me that certain posters only come into their own when there is bad news and are strangely absent when we get a result.


    Views are what makes this board go round, but lets have a sense of perspective.

    Im now waiting for the "clueless colin" brigade to focus on giving away the lead, poor substitutions or how Ian Murray is too slow or once gave the fans the bird.

    Positives - there are goals in this team, Osborne may well be a player, OConnor is the best striker in the league, Stevenson did well today.

    However, its a young team and confidence is a big thing. I hope we can back a good result against an in form side.

    Lets kick on Hibs!!!!
    Is that you Colin?

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    Is that you Colin?
    Ha! No, just wanted to recognise a few positives at a difficult time.

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    I thought we played ok today, nothing amazing but at least they had a bit of a desire about them when st mirren scored their goals. The heads didnt go down so hopefully another wee unbeaten run is on the cards again

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    It's great that we won and I am delighted that we did, I don't understand people who want us to lose "for the greater good" nonsense.

    However CC i fear is not the answer and never will be and I still think that the 1st half performance last week will be more common than a result like today's under his stewardship. But CC, if you're reading this I would be delighted for you to prove me wrong...

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    I don't see CC being here much longer. But the vitriol and the hysteria is laughable, along with the pseudo intellectualised tone of some of the panic and malaise threads.

    Wasn't at the game today. However, I heard that CC was getting booed for making the Griffiths substitution. At 3-2 up, and holding on for the win, congratulations to the section of fans for undermining any confidence the team had gained by pulling themselves ahead, the confidence of the player replacing Lee, and generally being an embarrassment - as if we don't have enough of that at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keep the faith View Post
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    Ha! No, just wanted to recognise a few positives at a difficult time.
    I am positive. Not many times over the last 18 months or so can I say that I am looking forward to watching the highlights on Sportscene tomorrow night.

    It's no surprise that it's a bit quiet on here tonight. It would be difficult for anyone to come on here and slate the manager and the team (unless you are BlackpoolHibs of course ) after a good away win and three goals for. I still want the manager out but that can wait until after our next defeat which hopefully is not in the cup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 500miles View Post
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    I don't see CC being here much longer. But the vitriol and the hysteria is laughable, along with the pseudo intellectualised tone of some of the panic and malaise threads.

    Wasn't at the game today. However, I heard that CC was getting booed for making the Griffiths substitution. At 3-2 up, and holding on for the win, congratulations to the section of fans for undermining any confidence the team had gained by pulling themselves ahead, the confidence of the player replacing Lee, and generally being an embarrassment - as if we don't have enough of that at the moment.
    Leigh speaks about the substitution in his post match interview:


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    im watching the game on bbc alba now, time for a celebratory drink

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    im watching the game on bbc alba now, time for a celebratory drink
    Me too. Must say I think the commentator and co-commentator are very good. Can't disagree with anything that they have said up to now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dashing Bob S View Post
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    While those who went through to Paisley who were simply watching abnormal activity - a victory for Calderwood's Hibs.
    Such a way with words Bob.

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    Hibs have now played the same number of matches under Colin Calderwood as we did under Jim Duffy so we can now do a comparison;

    CALDERWOOD

    P-46
    W-13
    D-9
    L-24

    DUFFY

    P-46
    W-8
    D-15
    L-23

    League record

    CALDERWOOD

    P-42
    W-11
    D-8
    L-23

    POINTS-41

    DUFFY

    P-39
    W-7
    D-12
    L-20

    POINTS-33

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dashing Bob S View Post
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    Delighted we won today, but it only marginally changes his record and doesn't stop being our worse manager of the last ten years.

    At worst: relegation candidates.

    At best: going nowhere.

    What he said.

    To the OP:

    Are you really arguing that today's result somehow balances out everything that has happened over the last year +? You were the one who asked for "perspective". Take the result today and see it in context of the manager's overall record, then you will have your true "perspective".

    GG

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    Any win away from home is welcome when your a Hibby. Sounded like a draw would have been a fairer result judging by the radio commentary. My youngest brother was there and wasn't overly impressed but thought Griffiths was good.

    Play O'Connor and Griffiths up front on Wednesday v Celtc and we'll cause them bother. Defence is still a worry though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dashing Bob S View Post
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    Delighted we won today, but it only marginally changes his record and doesn't stop being our worse manager of the last ten years.

    At worst: relegation candidates.

    At best: going nowhere.
    This

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    To the OP:

    Are you really arguing that today's result somehow balances out everything that has happened over the last year +? You were the one who asked for "perspective". Take the result today and see it in context of the manager's overall record, then you will have your true "perspective".

    GG
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    Quote Originally Posted by iwasthere1972 View Post
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    Me too. Must say I think the commentator and co-commentator are very good. Can't disagree with anything that they have said up to now.
    too true, they add alot to the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keep the faith View Post
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    Very quiet on the board compared to last week.

    Before the montherwell game we were showing signs of getting there. However, we had a really poor 1st half, lost the game and this board went into meltdown (again).

    Im under no illusions, this is not a strong team. However the hysteria on here is way over the top. Anyone can see that confidence is a big issue on the park and I dont get the desire to pounce on every bad result and performance the way we do here. Yes, its not the best squad we have ever had. Yes there are doubts over the manager but the facts are that we are a couple of results away from a decent league position and 1 game away from a semi final.

    It really seems to me that certain posters only come into their own when there is bad news and are strangely absent when we get a result.


    Views are what makes this board go round, but lets have a sense of perspective.

    Im now waiting for the "clueless colin" brigade to focus on giving away the lead, poor substitutions or how Ian Murray is too slow or once gave the fans the bird.

    Positives - there are goals in this team, Osborne may well be a player, OConnor is the best striker in the league, Stevenson did well today.

    However, its a young team and confidence is a big thing. I hope we can back a good result against an in form side.

    Lets kick on Hibs!!!!
    What you mean like the guy that was first to reply to your thread. Perhaps someone should PM Blackpoolhearts just to check he is okay.

    I would agree it is like feeding time at the zoo on here when we lose, people seem to lose interest when we are winning. I am sure that there will unfortunatly be a few that are disapointed with today as it takes away there ability to update the negative stats. Out of interest how many people are email the club today and asking questions of them? Of those that did, would they be happy if the board emailed them and called them pash fans and asked them where they were and why there attitude to hibs was so bad!

    Well done to the team, great result and of course has put gag on certain netters till Wednesday.

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    It is like feeding time at zoo also for some on here when we win. I refer to folk like the guy whom replied 22nd.

    Kind regards
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlsberg View Post
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    It is like feeding time at zoo also for some on here when we win. I refer to folk like the guy whom replied 22nd.

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    I know it is crazy.....just imagine Hibs fans coming together in a moment of excitement at the team winning....do you find that strange, do you find that an issue?? What is more appropraite fans getting excited at a win, or reveling in defeat using it as an excuse to have a go at the players, manager, board, owner and everything else to do with hibs.

    If you find fans getting excited about a win to be feeding time at the zoo then you have issues. I believe this is a "supporters" website!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albion Hibs View Post
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    What you mean like the guy that was first to reply to your thread. Perhaps someone should PM Blackpoolhearts just to check he is okay.

    I would agree it is like feeding time at the zoo on here when we lose, people seem to lose interest when we are winning. I am sure that there will unfortunatly be a few that are disapointed with today as it takes away there ability to update the negative stats. Out of interest how many people are email the club today and asking questions of them? Of those that did, would they be happy if the board emailed them and called them pash fans and asked them where they were and why there attitude to hibs was so bad!

    Well done to the team, great result and of course has put gag on certain netters till Wednesday.


    Signed Hibs No 1 fan.

    I was at the game today and Hibs worked hard for the win but wee are still poor at the back and will always concede goals, will wee always score more than our oppenents, thats the worry, i emailed the club after the game to tell them to hire the catering company that supplies the nice food that i was served today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albion Hibs View Post
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    I know it is crazy.....just imagine Hibs fans coming together in a moment of excitement at the team winning....do you find that strange, do you find that an issue?? What is more appropraite fans getting excited at a win, or reveling in defeat using it as an excuse to have a go at the players, manager, board, owner and everything else to do with hibs.

    If you find fans getting excited about a win to be feeding time at the zoo then you have issues. I believe this is a "supporters" website!
    I was excited by today's win

    My random thoughts

    Hibs still look very dodgy at the back

    Stack is like Dracula when it comes to crosses but is great at point blank saves

    O'Hanlon was murder in the first half and top notch in the second

    Agogo never stopped running and did well in the withdrawn role

    The energy and determination of all the players used was first class

    The ref was pretty poor

    Not sure what category these comments fit into
    This is how it feels

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    Quote Originally Posted by silverhibee View Post
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    Signed Hibs No 1 fan.

    I was at the game today and Hibs worked hard for the win but wee are still poor at the back and will always concede goals, will wee always score more than our oppenents, thats the worry, i emailed the club after the game to tell them to hire the catering company that supplies the nice food that i was served today.
    Ah of course the much discussed piegate, how could i forget the 5 or 6 pages on what a pie should and should not be and how it is such an integral part of the "matchday experience"!

    I thought we were good at the back today, like we have been for the last few games. The midfield was rank, the majority of those around me seemed to agree 100%. And I would hope we would score more goals, we were playing 3 strikers and a winger, almost as many defenders as we played today. Maybe the balance of the team is not quite right, but the team should take credit for the goals we scored and crit for the ones we conceeded. I dont think the defense is anywhere close to soley to blame for todays goals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albion Hibs View Post
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    I know it is crazy.....just imagine Hibs fans coming together in a moment of excitement at the team winning....do you find that strange, do you find that an issue?? What is more appropraite fans getting excited at a win, or reveling in defeat using it as an excuse to have a go at the players, manager, board, owner and everything else to do with hibs.

    If you find fans getting excited about a win to be feeding time at the zoo then you have issues. I believe this is a "supporters" website!
    I have no issues, none of your first reply mentions much if anything about the performance or any players it was all about folk on here so yeah from guys like you it is feeding time at zoo, so to me what part of your post is about the result today that you are enjoying?

    My reply refered to you as you were not getting excited about win you were more excited about me and BH and having a go, I meant it is feeding time at zoo when we win for some fans that cant wait to have a go about other posters with little about the match itself, making you as bad as you deem me.

    Also I do not see many if any posts on the front page congratulating the win, just the player ratings ratings one. Yet this one is there having a wee dig you think at folk like me so some peoples first thoughts are not delight at win but delight at giving out wee bit of stick, yet when we lose my stick is only aimed at manager and board I dont say where are the folk who support CC tonight so I wonder who is really at the zoo doing feeding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Albion Hibs View Post
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    Ah of course the much discussed piegate, how could i forget the 5 or 6 pages on what a pie should and should not be and how it is such an integral part of the "matchday experience"!

    I thought we were good at the back today, like we have been for the last few games. The midfield was rank, the majority of those around me seemed to agree 100%. And I would hope we would score more goals, we were playing 3 strikers and a winger, almost as many defenders as we played today. Maybe the balance of the team is not quite right, but the team should take credit for the goals we scored and crit for the ones we conceeded. I dont think the defense is anywhere close to soley to blame for todays goals.
    Dunno about the goals conceeded Albion. Two free headers in the box yet again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenlex View Post
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    Dunno about the goals conceeded Albion. Two free headers in the box yet again.
    Dont know about that, both of their goals were scored by a guy playing on the hole behind the striker, therefore it is not the CH that should be picking him up, but the midfield IMO. Griffiths lost the ball, it then went out wide unchallenged from our midfield, it was a great cross in, in fairness to who ever put the ball in, but again a midfielder has run into the box inbetween the CH and the right back, I would suggest whoever in the midfield was marking him should have been tracking his run into the box.

    The second was a strike, headed away to the edge of the box, again I think a midfielder should be in front of the guy, especially in the box. In both instances our CH's headed the ball away from the goal, the other players have to take responsibility for their men, it can never just be down to the CH's and the four players making up our back four.

    Part of the above is no doubt as a result of playing three strikers, perhaps the midfield it too stretched that it cant always mark up, therefore they have to drop in and take a man.

    I have not seen the goals again, but at the time I would not have held our defense responsbile. The others should have done better to stop the boy in the hole getting to pretty much unchalleneged chances. Just my view from what I recall frm the time, I am in fairness looking forward to seeing them again.

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