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    Dawn raid. 10 Hibs fans arrested.



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    ''Breach of the peace aggravated by religious prejudice''

    Absolute nonsense, the obsession with trying to make everything a sectarian crime strikes again.

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    "Religious prejudice".....?

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    Maybe to do with being a makem (sp)... or reject Geordies.... or from coming from somewhere else... maybe they were all of a religion disimilar to that of those arrested and took offence to the church they visit on a Sunday...

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    Hibs fans?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldbutdim View Post
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    Hibs fans?

    Yeah, thats what they said on the news at lunchtime.

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    Sounds absolute tosh. It's like the old guy at the labour party conference the other year being moved using some terrorism legislation...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RicheyWhite View Post
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    "Religious prejudice".....?
    That's what I thought.

    Could it be related to something that was sung?
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    Strange; i clearly recall being told on here by other posters that it had all been blown out of proportion, there was hardly any trouble and it was all minor stuff anyway compared with the grand old nineteen eighties.

    Which, as anyone walking or driving up easter road at around 2 hours before ko that day knows, is total baws.

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    Who would believe it!? Retrospective action and reported on by the Beeb! if this has any positive recriminations then lets hope it will occur for the the real perpetrators and the Beeb can then go onto report on their beloved...being hammered for the right reasons!!

    Was always going to be either us or the jumbos before that bunch through by!

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    Who would believe it!? Retrospective action and reported on by the Beeb! if this has any positive recriminations then lets hope it will occur for the the real perpetrators and the Beeb can then go onto report on their beloved...being hammered for the right reasons!!

    Was always going to be either us or the jumbos before that bunch through by!
    I think Rangers fans were arrested by Fife Constabulary at the weekend.

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    Good to hear it! Lets not kid ourselves that there was no trouble that day. If this rids our club of unsavoury supporters then I for one am glad.

    But it's bitter sweet, because I am also sad that our club's name is once again being dragged through the mud by a select few.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefster View Post
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    I think Rangers fans were arrested by Fife Constabulary at the weekend.
    Did the Beeb not report them as being hibees?

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    not sure they will be able to make the religious element stick in court.

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    Good to hear it! Lets not kid ourselves that there was no trouble that day. If this rids our club of unsavoury supporters then I for one am glad.

    But it's bitter sweet, because I am also sad that our club's name is once again being dragged through the mud by a select few.
    There's little doubt the incident leaves a bad taste, well maybe not a bad one but a mixed one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nakedmanoncrack View Post
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    ''Breach of the peace aggravated by religious prejudice''

    Absolute nonsense, the obsession with trying to make everything a sectarian crime strikes again.

    For hooliganism related offences?? Are they being serious?


    I'd be really interested to find out exactly what the religous aspect was of a group of Hibs Casuals fighting people from Sunderland.

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    What happened to the last 'dawn raid' that the police done after months of intelligence, a dedicated team of officers being used to track down and proscecute several hibs 'fans' after a derby game?

    I cant recall any court cases being reported.

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    Religious prejudice?

    I'm all for the police clamping down on violence however I can't understand why religion would have anything at all to do with this?

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    Hate crimes based on songs? So when Newcastle sing 'we hate Sunderland and we hate Sunderland' is that a crime?

    If so, football's becoming a bit dull...

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    What happened to the last 'dawn raid' that the police done after months of intelligence, a dedicated team of officers being used to track down and proscecute several hibs 'fans' after a derby game?

    I cant recall any court cases being reported.
    Dawn raids are all for show, a show of strength by the police for the benefit of the media.
    That 40 officers were tied up to apprehend 10 men on breach charges is frankly ridiculous, treated like terrorists or major criminals

    Was there anything to suggest these people were likely to abscond or fight to the death to avoid capture?

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    It's obviously been something of an exhaustive process to identify and track down those involved, and I don't think anyone can disagree with efforts to get rid of any trouble around games but if they couldn't make the religious angle 'stick' with the Hertz fud who jumped Lennon then I really can't see any reason for it's inclusion in this set of arrests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LancashireHibby View Post
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    It's obviously been something of an exhaustive process to identify and track down those involved, and I don't think anyone can disagree with efforts to get rid of any trouble around games but if they couldn't make the religious angle 'stick' with the Hertz fud who jumped Lennon then I really can't see any reason for it's inclusion in this set of arrests.
    It'll be a government/SNP directive to all police forces in Scotland try and get a religious related conviction, given all the noise they've made about putting the bill through. The trouble is that Strathclyde will be avoiding it for as long as possible given the implications to their budget and man hours.
    Its down to the other forces to test the courts before we'll see in-roads where the problem actually lies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StevieC View Post
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    That's what I thought.

    Could it be related to something that was sung?


    I believe it's exactly that

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    May have been the so-called "Edinburgh Song" according to a thread on the Bounce.


    A pretty unpleasant little ditty it has to be said - probably imported from the Big Team.

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    Meanwhile if you're implicated in hacking into a phone of a dead girl's parents you're invited to pop along to a police station when(if?)you can manage.

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    For hooliganism related offences?? Are they being serious?


    I'd be really interested to find out exactly what the religous aspect was of a group of Hibs Casuals fighting people from Sunderland.


    Exactly! Can't imagine what it can be unless the police are citing it to reinforce their supposed hard-line. I can't wait to hear what the religious aspect was and I hope the club is demanding to know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StevieC View Post
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    It'll be a government/SNP directive to all police forces in Scotland try and get a religious related conviction, given all the noise they've made about putting the bill through. The trouble is that Strathclyde will be avoiding it for as long as possible given the implications to their budget and man hours.
    Its down to the other forces to test the courts before we'll see in-roads where the problem actually lies.
    Quote Originally Posted by oldbutdim View Post
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    May have been the so-called "Edinburgh Song".
    And yet the "Edinburgh" song would be an easy conviction for racial prejudice, so why the need for untested religious prejudice if not to appease government directives??
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    Here's hoping that those involved take it as a warning and stop behaving like ********s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibby D View Post
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    Good to hear it! Lets not kid ourselves that there was no trouble that day. If this rids our club of unsavoury supporters then I for one am glad.

    But it's bitter sweet, because I am also sad that our club's name is once again being dragged through the mud by a select few.

    Sums it up for me D. Yet another embarrassing episode for our club. I hope they get severely punished and banned from ER.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibby D View Post
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    Good to hear it! Lets not kid ourselves that there was no trouble that day. If this rids our club of unsavoury supporters then I for one am glad.

    But it's bitter sweet, because I am also sad that our club's name is once again being dragged through the mud by a select few.

    Sums it up for me D. Yet another embarrassing episode for our club. I hope they get severely punished and banned from ER.

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