2 away goals, 14 shots, 50% of the ball

[HH81]

...............and an away point.

Massive improvement on last Saturday. Roll on Tuesday for more of the same.

I think most would have taken 2-2 today.

[grantonhibee]

Someone had one to many crabbies ??

[Elephant Stone]

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...............and an away point.

Massive improvement on last Saturday. Roll on Tuesday for more of the same.

I think most would have taken 2-2 today.

If we play like that against "good" teams we will lose. Like we have done again and again.

[chrisski33]

Play like we did today and we will lose mid week simples! We couldnt even defend our 2 goal lead! I certainly dont want more of the same! I want cc out and back to winning football and to climb up that league!

[Saorsa]

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...............and an away point.

Massive improvement on last Saturday. Roll on Tuesday for more of the same.

I think most would have taken 2-2 today.

Awrite mate,

See when you've been on your travels up here have you ever noticed if you can get that stuff here?

[marinello59]

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...............and an away point.

Massive improvement on last Saturday. Roll on Tuesday for more of the same.

I think most would have taken 2-2 today.

Look at the stats without seeing the game and it doesn't look too bad. Having watched the game the Stats are damned lies. It was dreadful.

[IWasThere2016]

Don't you just love stats - we were better v ICT according to the stats but there were still those slating us. In the interests of balance an alternative set of stats - against:

Top 6 - P3 W0 D0 L3 F1 A8 Pts 0
Bottom 6 - P4 W1 D2 L1 F4 A4 Pts 5

We look very bottom 6 - that's not good enough in my book.

[Sir David Gray]

We are joint bottom of the table after almost a fifth of the season having been played.

That's the only statistic I'm really interested in. It's shameful and completely unacceptable.

[HH81]

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Look at the stats without seeing the game and it doesn't look too bad. Having watched the game the Stats are damned lies. It was dreadful.

I watched the game and until Hibs went 2 up I thought they done
Fine. Yes the subs were a bit odd but they had nothing to do with the goals. Are you telling me if offered you a draw at 12 you wouldn't have taken it?

[HH81]

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We are joint bottom of the table after almost a fifth of the season having been played.

That's the only statistic I'm really interested in. It's shameful and completely unacceptable.

Yes but your only ever happy when your talking about them clowns from Manchester.

[Elephant Stone]

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I watched the game and until Hibs went 2 up I thought they done
Fine. Yes the subs were a bit odd but they had nothing to do with the goals. Are you telling me if offered you a draw at 12 you wouldn't have taken it?

If you were offered a match where we'd probably not string five passes together, look worse than a newly promoted team with a vastly inferior wage bill and throw away a two goal lead when we're in dire need for three points to lift us off the bottom of the table and end up staying joint bottom of the league after it all you'd have taken it?

We were absolutely dreadful and if the opposition were even slightly better we'd have taken a dooing. It's performances like that that have us sitting with a 25% win record and it's performances like that we need to avoid, only getting rid of the manager will let us do that as he is clearly quite content with performing like this and hoping for the odd stolen goal to get by. He's useless.

[DH1875]

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...............and an away point.

Massive improvement on last Saturday. Roll on Tuesday for more of the same.

I think most would have taken 2-2 today.

Maybe but his decision to take of our two best players with 30 minutes to go was nothing short of ridiculous.

[matty_f]

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We are joint bottom of the table after almost a fifth of the season having been played.

That's the only statistic I'm really interested in. It's shameful and completely unacceptable.

We're not joint bottom of the table.

[Lucius Apuleius]

I agree Halifax. Thought we were a lot better. Still not very good, but a lot better. What I cannot get my head round is the statements that if we were playing a better team we would have been beaten. Duh, yeah, course we would. However we were not, we were playing a team roughly on a par, sadly, with us. Personally I think we can still improve with the players we have, I don't think Dunfermline can. Not going to be a happy camper all season but, and maybe it is head in the sand stuff, I do not see us being relegated.

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We're not joint bottom of the table.

Aye, we are.

Hibs and Inverness both have 5 points, we're only above them by one goal.

That makes us joint bottom.

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

It is not as easy as saying would you have taken a 2-2 draw before hand though is it? If we were 2 down and fought back, then we would be double chuffed today with a point gained. Irrespective of our current form and whoever the opponents are, if you are two up coasting and end up all square and hanging on, that is two points chucked. No debate IMO. Closing down a game at one up takes organisation and discipline, but surely closing a game out from two up and into the second half, takes basic football theory.

[Newhaven]

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...............and an away point.

Massive improvement on last Saturday. Roll on Tuesday for more of the same.

I think most would have taken 2-2 today.

Sorry but I believe a club of our stature and resource should be seeing off the Pars with ease.

That fans are happy with a point and two goals says to me how low our ambitions are at the club

[Hermit Crab]

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...............and an away point.

Massive improvement on last Saturday. Roll on Tuesday for more of the same.

I think most would have taken 2-2 today.

Not being 0-2 up and seemingly in control, maybe if we were 2-0 down. These are the games we should be winning if we want to avoid the relegation battle. Improvement my hoop!

[Beefster]

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Aye, we are.

Hibs and Inverness both have 5 points, we're only above them by one goal.

That makes us joint bottom.

Using your logic, teams that finish second on goal difference are joint champions?

We're currently second bottom.

[Sir David Gray]

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Using your logic, teams that finish second on goal difference are joint champions?

We're currently second bottom.

I'm fairly certain that most people use the term "joint top" or "joint bottom" when referring to two teams who are on the same number of points during the season.

Obviously our definition of what "joint bottom" means, differs.

[matty_f]

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Using your logic, teams that finish second on goal difference are joint champions?We're currently second bottom.

if the league finished today we would be second bottom and ict would go down.

[YehButNoBut]

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if the league finished today we would be second bottom and ict would go down.

Right now I'd settle for that.

[Sir David Gray]

Rob McLean's just said on Sportscene that we have the "dubious honour of sharing bottom spot"....

[nortonhibby]

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Don't you just love stats - we were better v ICT according to the stats but there were still those slating us. In the interests of balance an alternative set of stats - against:

Top 6 - P3 W0 D0 L3 F1 A8 Pts 0
Bottom 6 - P4 W1 D2 L1 F4 A4 Pts 5

We look very bottom 6 - that's not good enough in my book.

Interesting what id like to know is our Stats from 1st Jan 2010 to todays date i feel like we have been in a Duffster type roll since we started 2010 and it seems to be getting worse FH ?

[Scouse Hibee]

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Aye, we are.

Hibs and Inverness both have 5 points, we're only above them by one goal.

That makes us joint bottom.

[nortonhibby]

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Bottom line is if the season was over we would be second botom and have survived, with CC Still in charge then i for one would bite your hand of right now to survive by one goal

[Dirkster23]

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Yes but your only ever happy when your talking about them clowns from Manchester.

A bit like yourself

Yes things were a bit better to start with on Saturday, but i'm not seeing anything yet that suggests we wont be in a relegation battle this season.

[Musselbound]

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Using your logic, teams that finish second on goal difference are joint champions?

We're currently second bottom.

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if the league finished today we would be second bottom and ict would go down.

Possibly the biggest case of clutching at straws I've seen yet. Nothing to do with winning the league or going down at the end of the season. In common speak, currently joint bottom or joint top has always meant having the same number of points to my knowledge. I doubt if we'd be having this debate if we were a goal behind Rangers at the top of the league!

[Scouse Hibee]

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Possibly the biggest case of clutching at straws I've seen yet. Nothing to do with winning the league or going down at the end of the season. In common speak, currently joint bottom or joint top has always meant having the same number of points to my knowledge. I doubt if we'd be having this debate if we were a goal behind Rangers at the top of the league!

I don't think anyone is clutching at straws at all, we all know how the bad situation is that finds us currently second bottom of the SPL! We're not bottom by the virtue of goal difference and that's the only point that is being made.

[StevieC]

Certainly not looking like world beaters, but there were signs of improvement there (shown by the statistics and the two goals).

The "supporters" on here have been shouting out for signs of improvement .. they get it .. and yet the place is still awash with "supporters" looking for the negatives in the performance.