Relegation is on the cards unless we cut out the mistakes...

[3pm]

...Get someone in who can help us with that. Calderwood doesn't have the ability to mould the team.

They are shiiite as well which makes it worse. Murder.

[blackpoolhibs]

I remember the arguments against Hughes, get him tae f was the cry, he's clueless no plan B he's ruining these players, we need another manager to manage this team, we have the players we just need a new manager, one who knows what he's doing.



Enter Colin Calderwood.

[3pm]

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I remember the arguments against Hughes, get him tae f was the cry, he's clueless no plan B he's ruining these players, we need another manager to manage this team, we have the players we just need a new manager, one who knows what he's doing.



Enter Colin Calderwood.

I'd have emptied Hughes, he was murder. However, we seem to have replaced him with someone worse. How Petrie managed it I'll never know.

[blackpoolhibs]

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I'd have emptied Hughes, he was murder. However, we seem to have replaced him with someone worse. How Petrie managed it I'll never know.

I agree Hughes time was up, again enter Colin Colderwood the man to save us from Yogi's mess.

[Cropley10]

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I'd have emptied Hughes, he was murder. However, we seem to have replaced him with someone worse. How Petrie managed it I'll never know.

A man who's gone and bought a few players who are either not very good or don't know this league. In most cases both.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

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I'd have emptied Hughes, he was murder. However, we seem to have replaced him with someone worse. How Petrie managed it I'll never know.

Can't just keep changing though surely by your logic we'd have been better off with yogi ? What happened to the Leith motto?
I fear that well turn into Aberdeen if we follow this "revolving door" path I really do

[Hibernia Na Eir]

we'll nab Wegner when he gets the chop shortly :)

[Cropley10]

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Can't just keep changing though surely by your logic we'd have been better off with yogi ? What happened to the Leith motto?
I fear that well turn into Aberdeen if we follow this "revolving door" path I really do

We probably will. Which is still better than getting relegated.

[jonty]

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I agree Hughes time was up, again enter Colin Colderwood the man to save us from Yogi's mess.

Which he did.

[Dinkydoo]

Coaching staff must shoulder some of the blame IMO.

They're the ones who - along with the manager - should be working with the players to iron out these errors every day in training.

[3pm]

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Can't just keep changing though surely by your logic we'd have been better off with yogi ? What happened to the Leith motto?
I fear that well turn into Aberdeen if we follow this "revolving door" path I really do

Read it again. Never once implied we should keep Hughes.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

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Read it again. Never once implied we should keep Hughes.

Ok see post #3

[The Voice Of Reason]

Relegation fodder for sure, we are murder.

Calderwood is an extremely talended chap - he has managed to make us even worse than we were under Hughes......that is some achievement.

We are rock bottom af a dreadful league.

Effing joke.

[blackpoolhibs]

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Which he did.

Yip, came in when we were 8th and saved us last season in 10th. Now we are 12th. Thanks for saving us Colin, its a good job you never failed us.

[jonty]

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Yip, came in when we were 8th and saved us last season in 10th. Now we are 12th. Thanks for saving us Colin, its a good job you never failed us.

That was a quick season, wasn't it. 5 games and we're relegated.

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That was a quick season, wasn't it. 5 games and we're relegated.

Again, do we have a different set of rules now with calderwood than we did with hughes?

[The Falcon]

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Yip, came in when we were 8th and saved us last season in 10th. Now we are 12th. Thanks for saving us Colin, its a good job you never failed us.

So you think there is no way this team will improve?

[blackpoolhibs]

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So you think there is no way this team will improve?

No i dont, we are no better now than we were when he took over.

[3pm]

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So you think there is no way this team will improve?

I don't.

[jonty]

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Again, do we have a different set of rules now with calderwood than we did with hughes?

Answered on the other thread. Why ask again

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I don't.

Going back to your original post, If the individual errors are cut out, we'll improve.
There are too many youngsters in the squad who need experience and experienced players alongside.

[heidtheba]

I'm not a hardcore Hibby anymore so this might go down like a lead balloon but honestly, right now I'd take JJ or Burley. Burley seemed to make a team play with a bit of flair and had an eye for a player, admittedly ones which were bankrolled at a higher level we could afford and JJ could make a team hard to beat. We have neither right now.

[Tricla]

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No i dont, we are no better now than we were when he took over.

He's only just finished bringing in his own team.

Most of the recent additions have played about half a game between them.

You, like many others, have utterly no patience and no grasp of the realism involved in getting a new group of people to perform together.

It's the same in any industry.

Storming

Norming

Performing

I believe we will prevail in time. Have some sense of reality BH.

[3pm]

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Going back to your original post, If the individual errors are cut out, we'll improve.
There are too many youngsters in the squad who need experience and experienced players alongside.

I know Jonty but it happens too often to suggest we can just switch it off.

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He's only just finished bringing in his own team.

Most of the recent additions have played about half a game between them.

You, like many others, have utterly no patience and no grasp of the realism involved in getting a new group of people to perform together.

It's the same in any industry.

Storming

Norming

Performing

I believe we will prevail in time. Have some sense of reality BH.

We're still forming.


We wont get relegated.

[3pm]

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We're still forming.


We wont get relegated.

Mate, you're brave to dismiss the possibility!

[The Falcon]

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Mate, you're brave to dismiss the possibility!

We should be doing better than we are but we will get better.

[jonty]

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I know Jonty but it happens too often to suggest we can just switch it off.

the youngsters have to learn. Experienced players alongside to educate and perhaps time on loan to get match experience.
We've got some experienced players in who need to be the backbone of the team.

Changing the manager, again, only leads to another wasted season. We need to stick by a manager for a couple of full seasons to let them build a team.
It's not football manager we're playing.

[Caroline Hibby]

Hughes had a lot more time than CC has had. Admittedly he ought to have been emptied before start of last season (would have also meant we'd never have had De G, Hart etc). CC inherited the worst squad I can remember and had to live with it until Jan. He 'managed' to put enough points between us and the rest to stay up - still having to continue with the rubbish he inherited like Miller, Rankin, Dikho, Smith, Thicot, Nish etc until the season was finished. He's putting together his own squad and deserves a chance to show what they can do over a reasonable period of time. That means more than 5 games. I'm bored with a new manager every year and if he was signing dross I'd be more concerned, but if you'd offered me O'Connor, Sproule, Griffiths, Osbourne in May, I'd be happy. Let's see where we are at the half way mark before making judgements.

[essexhibee]

I fear that we are at the moment just as bad as when we were under hughes. With the players we have we shouldn't be....but we are.

[HFC 0-7]

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We should be doing better than we are but we will get better.

I dont think we will get relegated but I think we will struggle all season. People keep banging on about letting them gel, why? Waiting for a team to gel doesnt mean that in the meantime the players forget about the basics of football. I said on another thread that We are conceeding heavily and creating little. we also cant keep a hold of the ball. Normally an improving side will see part of this change, whether it be much more possesion but few chances. Lets not forget we will have a lot of new faces again next season as we have about 8 players contracts up half way through or at the end of the season. Will next season be the same again and 'waiting to gel'.

I have seen no real improvement over the last few games and even from last season to suggest that this is just a phase we are going through. We have no direction on the pitch other than lumping it forward, any changes today were for more bodies available up front for the lump forward. We dont seem to react to try and counter act anything the opposition do that hurts us. We have bought players yes, but some of them, IMO are the wrong ones. Back to the OP, relegation is on the cards unless we cut out the mistakes? We wont get relegated but the mistakes arent whats costing us, its the tactics, we dont hold onto the ball, we dont create anything near enough chances and we invite pressure, which in turn leads to goals.