Calderwood needs time.

[greenlex]

His team needs time to gell.
Today was down to two defensive errors and up until the first one we were in control. We were the team that looked like scoring.
Calderwood cant legislate for individual errors.
Young players will make these errors. (The quicker we get O'Hanlon in there with one of Hanlon or Stevens the better)
We desperately need a right back and preferably before whoever out the current squad faces Templeton and or driver as McGowan had a field day today.
Missed in all the negativity today was the fact Stack hardly if ever had a save to make the mistakes aside.
St Mirren dominated about ten to fifteen minutes after Ozzys head knock while he stoated about wondering where he was. He also looked like he had run his race physically as he is not match fit. We got control again after Scott replaced him.
Some of the over reation on other threads is embarrassing.
Discuss.

[Elephant Stone]

Individual errors cost us two goals but not the game. If we can't score more than one goal and can't get goals from anyone other than Garry O'Connor we are going to lose games. The team are creating next to no chances, the midfield is doing OK at closing down and making it difficult for opponents but are doing nothing to create for ourselves, there is no effective link between the midfield and the attack. Calderwood has been here near enough ten months and hasn't done anything to remedy this.

In time there's a chance that we will tighten up and concede less but I can't see any addition to our creativity and that's what I worry about.

[Steve20]

The only thing we should give him time for is to pack his stuff and leave.

[greenlex]

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Individual errors cost us two goals but not the game. If we can't score more than one goal and can't get goals from anyone other than Gary O'Connor we are going to lose games. The team are creating next to no chances, the midfield is doing OK at closing down and making it difficult for opponents but are doing nothing to create for ourselves, there is no effective link between the midfield and the attack. Calderwood has been here near enough ten months and hasn't done anything to remedy this.

In time there's a chance that we will tighten up and concede less but I can't see any addition to our creativity and that's what I worry about.

With Agogo in for Murray/wotherspoon and a fit Ozzy there will be plenty created. I think Thornhill will come good but do think he has been poor the last two games.

[Andy74]

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His team needs time to gell.
Today was down to two defensive errors and up until the first one we were in control. We were the team that looked like scoring.
Calderwood cant legislate for individual errors.
Young players will make these errors. (The quicker we get O'Hanlon in there with one of Hanlon or Stevens the better)
We desperately need a right back and preferably before whoever out the current squad faces Templeton and or driver as McGowan had a field day today.
Missed in all the negativity today was the fact Stack hardly if ever had a save to make the mistakes aside.
St Mirren dominated about ten to fifteen minutes after Ozzys head knock while he stoated about wondering where he was. He also looked like he had run his race physically as he is not match fit. We got control again after Scott replaced him.
Some of the over reation on other threads is embarrassing.
Discuss.

Today is just the latest.

No home wins since March. Mainly against the bottom six to boot. Lost last four home games. Again other than Celtic, bottom six teams.

We had an unprecedented opportunity to transform the playing staff this year. Nothing has changed, and worse, we are being passed off the park and our only plan is to hope Garry O can produce something.

It's not an over reaction, he has actually been given more leeway than anyone I can recall.

[sundo1875]

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His team needs time to gell. Today was down to two defensive errors and up until the first one we were in control. We were the team that looked like scoring.Calderwood cant legislate for individual errors. Young players will make these errors. (The quicker we get O'Hanlon in there with one of Hanlon or Stevens the better)We desperately need a right back and preferably before whoever out the current squad faces Templeton and or driver as McGowan had a field day today.Missed in all the negativity today was the fact Stack hardly if ever had a save to make the mistakes aside.St Mirren dominated about ten to fifteen minutes after Ozzys head knock while he stoated about wondering where he was. He also looked like he had run his race physically as he is not match fit. We got control again after Scott replaced him. Some of the over reation on other threads is embarrassing.Discuss.

He needs time he has nearly a year and NOTHING has changed

[khib70]

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His team needs time to gell.
Today was down to two defensive errors and up until the first one we were in control. We were the team that looked like scoring.
Calderwood cant legislate for individual errors.
Young players will make these errors. (The quicker we get O'Hanlon in there with one of Hanlon or Stevens the better)
We desperately need a right back and preferably before whoever out the current squad faces Templeton and or driver as McGowan had a field day today.
Missed in all the negativity today was the fact Stack hardly if ever had a save to make the mistakes aside.
St Mirren dominated about ten to fifteen minutes after Ozzys head knock while he stoated about wondering where he was. He also looked like he had run his race physically as he is not match fit. We got control again after Scott replaced him.
Some of the over reation on other threads is embarrassing.
Discuss.

Well said. At last an analysis of the game that bears some relation to the one I saw. The way people are behaving on here is just more kneejerk wrist-slashing. Some people are never happier than when we lose. Except when there's a lynch mob on the go looking for the manager.

He himself has said that the transition period would be painful, and it definitely is. But sacking CC and bringing in another manager, who will then be rounded on by the same people if he hasn't met their expectations within three months, is just going to lead to a recurring cycle of failure.

[hibee1994]

Hasn't signed players we need, i.e a RB, a LM and maybe another CB

Doesn't pick the right formation

Tactically unaware

Hasn't improved results


I was one of the first to defend him but im sorry, Yogi had a better era than this and still got sacked. Either a tactical Assistant manager or a needed.

[Hibiza]

he's had time . same old diatribe , non insperational, non tactical alert , get him out p.s dosent really want to be .

[Hibercelona]

A defensive error?

All goals scored in a football game are defensive errors. But with Hibs, its taking a fair chunck of the cake. When we say "errors"... we really do mean "errors". Teams don't need to score good goals against us, they simply have to loft the ball into the box a couple of times during a 90 minute period and they get their 3 points.

If we can't beat teams 90% of the time with players on a fraction of our players wages, a fraction of our fanbase and a fraction of our assets, then something smells a bit off dont you think?

We shouldn't be scoring the odd goal or 2 in a home game against the likes of St Mirren, we should be destroying teams like that at home!

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His team needs time to gell.
Today was down to two defensive errors and up until the first one we were in control. We were the team that looked like scoring.
Calderwood cant legislate for individual errors.
Young players will make these errors. (The quicker we get O'Hanlon in there with one of Hanlon or Stevens the better)
We desperately need a right back and preferably before whoever out the current squad faces Templeton and or driver as McGowan had a field day today.
Missed in all the negativity today was the fact Stack hardly if ever had a save to make the mistakes aside.
St Mirren dominated about ten to fifteen minutes after Ozzys head knock while he stoated about wondering where he was. He also looked like he had run his race physically as he is not match fit. We got control again after Scott replaced him.
Some of the over reation on other threads is embarrassing.
Discuss.

Sorry but he's had too much time as far as I'm concerned.

We are a very poor team at the moment. There is no shape to the team, players are being played out of position, there is no plan b when things start to go wrong and there is no confidence in the players.

Some of the players don't look as if they know what they are being asked to do and the crowds are dropping because people aren't prepared to pay to watch the drivel that has been on offer for some considerable time.


What are you basing your thoughts on when you say give him more time?

[Stevie Reid]

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His team needs time to gell.
Today was down to two defensive errors and up until the first one we were in control. We were the team that looked like scoring.
Calderwood cant legislate for individual errors.
Young players will make these errors. (The quicker we get O'Hanlon in there with one of Hanlon or Stevens the better)
We desperately need a right back and preferably before whoever out the current squad faces Templeton and or driver as McGowan had a field day today.
Missed in all the negativity today was the fact Stack hardly if ever had a save to make the mistakes aside.
St Mirren dominated about ten to fifteen minutes after Ozzys head knock while he stoated about wondering where he was. He also looked like he had run his race physically as he is not match fit. We got control again after Scott replaced him.
Some of the over reation on other threads is embarrassing.
Discuss.

He had a meaningful save after we scored, down to his left (when he should have done better), which was one more than Samson had at the other end IIRC.

[Elephant Stone]

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With Agogo in for Murray/wotherspoon and a fit Ozzy there will be plenty created. I think Thornhill will come good but do think he has been poor the last two games.

Agogo is a striker, he won't be creating chances, he will be needing service from our midfield and will no doubt be as deprived of it as O'Connor is. Osbourne looks like he's got something but I don't think he alone can create enough chances in the current set up for us to be a success. There needs to be major change in the way we play. As for Thornhill, I've seen nothing which gives hope for any creativity thus far, he looks lively enough but doesn't do enough in possession.

[greenlex]

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A defensive error?

All goals scored in a football game are defensive errors. But with Hibs, its taking a fair chunck of the cake. When we say "errors"... we really do mean "errors". Teams don't need to score good goals against us, they simply have to loft the ball into the box a couple of times during a 90 minute period and they get their 3 points.

If we can't beat teams 90% of the time with players on a fraction of our players wages, a fraction of our fanbase and a fraction of our assets, then something smells a bit off dont you think?

Should have written individual defensive errors for todays two goals. Neither of which were "lofted into the box".

[Andy74]

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Sorry but he's had too much time as far as I'm concerned.

We are a very poor team at the moment. There is no shape to the team, players are being played out of position, there is no plan b when things start to go wrong and there is no confidence in the players.

Some of the players don't look as if they know what they are being asked to do and the crowds are dropping because people aren't prepared to pay to watch the drivel that has been on offer for some considerable time.


What are you basing your thoughts on when you say give him more time?

I see you mention a plan b. What is plan a?

[Hibiza]

See whenever he talks , it's like somebody wanting to get out of a party. Imagine him being your first foot at the new year aaaarrrrrghhhh.

[greenlex]

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Sorry but he's had too much time as far as I'm concerned.

We are a very poor team at the moment. There is no shape to the team, players are being played out of position, there is no plan b when things start to go wrong and there is no confidence in the players.

Some of the players don't look as if they know what they are being asked to do and the crowds are dropping because people aren't prepared to pay to watch the drivel that has been on offer for some considerable time.


What are you basing your thoughts on when you say give him more time?

Four games into the season with his team still to feature his bigger signings together. That will be the test. Celtic at home. Inverness away Killie away. Three games we rarely take anything from. Three points and unlucky IMO to take nothing today. Unless we are cut adrift at the foot of the table at the next window he should be judged on the season as a whole.

[Hibercelona]

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Should have written individual defensive errors for todays two goals. Neither of which were "lofted into the box".

I don't know how the 2 goals were scored today and I don't care. All I know is that we conceeded more goals than we scored at home to a team that shouldn't be a patch on us in terms of quality and results.

I personally don't believe that we as fans are putting enough pressure on the board to produce better. But i'm sure the "dont mess with the board" brigade will be very quickly on here to put me back in my place.

[Largshibby]

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His team needs time to gell.
Today was down to two defensive errors and up until the first one we were in control. We were the team that looked like scoring.
Calderwood cant legislate for individual errors.
Young players will make these errors. (The quicker we get O'Hanlon in there with one of Hanlon or Stevens the better)
We desperately need a right back and preferably before whoever out the current squad faces Templeton and or driver as McGowan had a field day today.
Missed in all the negativity today was the fact Stack hardly if ever had a save to make the mistakes aside.
St Mirren dominated about ten to fifteen minutes after Ozzys head knock while he stoated about wondering where he was. He also looked like he had run his race physically as he is not match fit. We got control again after Scott replaced him.
Some of the over reation on other threads is embarrassing.
Discuss.

I admire your sense of optimism but the reaction elsewhere is the cumulative effect of 18 months of utter dross rather than picking out the plus points of individual games. What annoys me most is that Hibs have 3 or 4 times the resources of teams like St.M, Inverness, St Johnsone yet we can't enjoy periods of sustained success against them irrespective of the shortcomings in the team. I know alot of people don't think the relative size of one club compared to another makes any difference but for me it does.

[SneakersO'Toole]

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His team needs time to gell.
Today was down to two defensive errors and up until the first one we were in control. We were the team that looked like scoring.
Calderwood cant legislate for individual errors.
Young players will make these errors. (The quicker we get O'Hanlon in there with one of Hanlon or Stevens the better)
We desperately need a right back and preferably before whoever out the current squad faces Templeton and or driver as McGowan had a field day today.
Missed in all the negativity today was the fact Stack hardly if ever had a save to make the mistakes aside.
St Mirren dominated about ten to fifteen minutes after Ozzys head knock while he stoated about wondering where he was. He also looked like he had run his race physically as he is not match fit. We got control again after Scott replaced him.
Some of the over reation on other threads is embarrassing.
Discuss.

I agree to an extent but his time is running out FAST. As I said on another thread, lets see where we are once we have played 11 games against all opposition.

His team needs time to gel is a cop-out. Look our opponents today. Completely different team who have had exactly the same time as the us to put a team together. Youngsters will make mistakes but we are not learning from our mistakes. Time and time again we make the wrong decisions.

You are right that Stack barely had a save to make today, but neither did the St. Mirren goalie. We are so toothless in attack its beyond belief. No creativity, no guile and absolutely no one in the team who can make a telling pass. Worrying.

The opinions on the other threads is not an over-reaction, it is patience worn thinner than Pat Nevin's hairline. The time for talking or excuses is over. This team that has been assembled by CC needs to start demonstrating that it can compete in this league and quickly.

[R'Albin]

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His team needs time to gell.

Definately..

[Dirkster23]

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With Agogo in for Murray/wotherspoon and a fit Ozzy there will be plenty created. I think Thornhill will come good but do think he has been poor the last two games.

Two home games and one shot on target? I wish i could share your confidence that it's all going to come good

[crash]

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His team needs time to gell. -Kilmarnock last week and St. Mirren today have both undergone as many personnel changes than us, don't see them complaining.
Today was down to two defensive errors and up until the first one we were in control. We were the team that looked like scoring.
Calderwood cant legislate for individual errors.-Young players will always make mistakes, so to send out a complete back four with no experience is suicidal
Young players will make these errors. (The quicker we get O'Hanlon in there with one of Hanlon or Stevens the better)
We desperately need a right back and preferably before whoever out the current squad faces Templeton and or driver as McGowan had a field day today.- At last the penny is beginning to drop that we are totally unprepared for next weeks game
Missed in all the negativity today was the fact Stack hardly if ever had a save to make the mistakes aside.- Neither did the St.Mirren goalie
St Mirren dominated about ten to fifteen minutes after Ozzys head knock and we got control again after Scott replaced him. Some of the over reation on other threads is embarrassing.I don't see anything embarrassing about people wanting to be able to go along to Easter Road on a Saturday and see a decent performance.
Discuss.

As above.

[AlbertK86]

totally agree he needs time but what is frustrating that we have not addressed the massive problems in defence. It has been clear for months that we needed a right back and two centre halves. Possibly even a left back as i think young booth is superb going forward but poor defensively. Wouldn't dream of dropping him but would much rather see him on the left of midfield.

All that has been done is buy one central defender. We are weak there just now so dread to think where we will be once injuries and suspensions kick in. Let's hope we get some experiencee defenders in before the window slams shut

[Stevie Reid]

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Some of the over reation on other threads is embarrassing.

Duffy
P 46 W 8 D 15 L 23

Calderwood
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Over reaction?

Myself and many other fair minded Hibbies would gladly give him more time if there were ANY signs of improvement, but there are none whatsoever. Less than 9K at ER today and a ST holder like myself will be struggling to drag myself back again, so God knows how we can get any walk ups to keep going, or indeed, ever return.

[staunchhibby]

Give him more time and we are heading into the first division

[greenlex]

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totally agree he needs time but what is frustrating that we have not addressed the massive problems in defence. It has been clear for months that we needed a right back and two centre halves. Possibly even a left back as i think young booth is superb going forward but poor defensively. Wouldn't dream of dropping him but would much rather see him on the left of midfield.

All that has been done is buy one central defender. We are weak there just now so dread to think where we will be once injuries and suspensions kick in. Let's hope we get some experiencee defenders in before the window slams shut

I see where you are coming from and a right back is essential.It does however need to be the right one. We dont want another Hart. I prefer to wait till the right one is available and willing to come. Another experienced centre back would be nice and a creative midfielder too. All in time I reckon.

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Duffy
P 46 W 8 D 15 L 23

Calderwood
P 36 W 9 D 6 L 21

Over reaction?

Myself and many other fair minded Hibbies would gladly give him more time if there were ANY signs of improvement, but there are none whatsoever. Less than 9K at ER today and a ST holder like myself will be struggling to drag myself back again, so God knows how we can get any walk ups to keep going, or indeed, ever return.

Forget last season. Its all about this season and going forward into the seasons ahead.

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I see where you are coming from and a right back is essential.It does however need to be the right one. We dont want another Hart. I prefer to wait till the right one is available and willing to come. Another experienced centre back would be nice and a creative midfielder too. All in time I reckon.

For sure i would not just want a panic buy and end up with another Hart ! Must be decent experienced defenders out there. Maybe just waiting on them decoming available. Lets hope so.

[R'Albin]

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For sure i would not just want a panic buy and end up with another Hart ! Must be decent experienced defenders out there. Maybe just waiting on them decoming available. Lets hope so.

The thing ia Hart wasn't even a panic buy !