Would you help educate a thick old Hibby, please.
What are the mitigating circumstances surrounding Craig Thomson?
When might it be ok to groom 12 and 14 year old children for sex?
Which parts of the report below have I misunderstood?
Thanks.
Thomson used Facebook to befriend the girls then sent them vile emails.
He engaged the children in sex chat, asked them about their body parts, and asked the older girl for sex as well as sending her a picture of male genitalia.
Thomson, of Bonnyrigg, Midlothian, spoke to the younger girl about a sex act and asked her to show him her breasts on a webcam.
He pled guilty
Report.
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25-06-2011 09:02 AM #1@hibs.net private member
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A couple of questions for the Yams who are tuning in
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Its disgusting!
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I feel physically sick that not only have they not sacked him but are now in some vile way trying to justify it.
Jim Jefferies obviously has no morals whatsoever.
Surely the SFA will have to grow a set and finally do something about this disgusting, vile, obnoxious institution.Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, vodka in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming, "WOO HOO what a ride!"
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25-06-2011 09:11 AM #3Coaching Staff
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That should be getting asked of Jefferies since he was one of those who carried out the investigation. Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
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Its got nothing to do with the hearts fans. The majority of them are as disgusted with it as us.
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There are still some ***** trying to justify it....so yes, it does have a lot to do with Hearts fans. Originally Posted by Mrs. S
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25-06-2011 09:37 AM #6First Team Breakthrough
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Now that they've decided to keep it, i wonder what it's squad number will be? Will they let him have 12 or 14, i guess he'd be happy with anything under 16. But seriously, for the first time in my life i do feel embarrassed and a little bit of pity for the fans who have spoken out against CT and VR.
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25-06-2011 09:41 AM #7Testimonial Due
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Correct - and the OP raises a fine question . . . Originally Posted by Dunbar Hibee
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The Hearts statements have said (and CT himself made mention in his "apology") that Hearts staff INCLUDING JIM JEFFERIES investigated it, took some "MITIGATING CIRCUMSTANCES" into account, including outside influences, and decided that these unnamed MITIGATING CIRCUMSTANCES were sufficient to retain their child sex offender employee.
So, the question must be: JJ - spill the beans.
When is a sex offender mitigated Mr Jefferies???
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25-06-2011 09:47 AM #8Can I borrow some ambition?
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it's all MacYam's fault, isn't it?
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Well then maybe the question should be aimed at them instead of lumping decent people in with them? If this was happening at Hibs I have no doubt we would have an element supporting their decision - I am sure as hell that I wouldnt be nor would I be happy to be associated with those who do.Sickening point scoring at its worst in my opinion. Originally Posted by Dunbar Hibee
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25-06-2011 09:54 AM #10First Team Regular
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Originally Posted by Mrs. S
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25-06-2011 09:56 AM #11First Team Regular
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Apologies if incorrect but was it not Fat Jum that suspended him? Romanov then stepped in to 'deal' with the matter and stated he found nothing stopping Thomson resuming his career and ordered him back to training? Originally Posted by Springbank
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25-06-2011 10:24 AM #12@hibs.net private member
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Hearts investigation reveals nothing of importance that requires action to be taken.
Police investigation and subsequent court action proves he's guilty.
Only the morally corrupt could come up with the answer Hearts did.
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25-06-2011 11:01 AM #13RemovedLeft by mutual consent! Originally Posted by degenerated
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25-06-2011 11:02 AM #14First Team Breakthrough
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looks like they will have to tear up their songbook when they play Celtic now that big Jim knew. That animal makes Zemmamas mrs look like a milf!!
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25-06-2011 11:38 AM #15Coaching Staff
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Aren't the Judge's Sentencing Notes available on request? I'd be interested to read these rather than the Daily Record's version of events. Only then would we know the (entire) truth.
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Originally Posted by Steve-O
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There's decent people in the Hearts support?!?! First I heard. Originally Posted by Mrs. S
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25-06-2011 11:58 AM #18RemovedLeft by mutual consent!Surprisingly, yes. Even I know 2 Originally Posted by Dunbar Hibee
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I know 1. But they're going to see JLS next week so now I'm not so sure about them. Originally Posted by 65bd
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25-06-2011 01:33 PM #20Club 12 (2013) Supporter
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like most decent people the vast majority of hearts fans are unhappy about this situation,but untill anyone can get a hold of all the facts all anyone can do is go on what the papers say.
i dont know anyone personally who wants him to stay at the club and i wont be back at tynie till he`s shown the door
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25-06-2011 01:41 PM #21Testimonial Due
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Originally Posted by Mrs. S
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Great Reply
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25-06-2011 03:36 PM #22First Team Breakthrough
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Originally Posted by ecosse
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Or the courts.
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The question is aimed at them. Originally Posted by Mrs. S
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It doesnt say that so thank you for clarifying Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
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25-06-2011 05:47 PM #25RemovedLeft by mutual consent!I thought the thread title gave it away. I don't think the radge edited it. Originally Posted by Mrs. S
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Originally Posted by 65bd
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A couple of questions for the yams that are tuning in
doesnt say to me its for the ones who stand by the club. Whatever, this is not what the threads about and the only answers Mr radge has is from us bickering so it looks pointless anyway.
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25-06-2011 08:29 PM #27Obsessed with the Hibees
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That's theree questions I think Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
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my answers would be
1. No idea as no one has published them
2. It would never be ok
3. I'm not sure as I can't read your mind, but I understand the daily record's words perfectly well. As far as I am aware he pled guilty to The "lewd, libidinous and indecent behaviour towards two girls, aged 12 and 14, over the internet" - teh record publishes more details in its report. Not sure if these are from the court or from the record's own journalist's investigations?
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The Sheriff's notes aren't available but you would have expected anything that mitigated the offence to have been put forward in the verbal plea in mitigation that Thomson's solicitor would have delivered. Originally Posted by Steve-O
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25-06-2011 09:00 PM #29First Team Regular
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Any Yams seen the new signing?.....THATS what I want to know
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25-06-2011 09:15 PM #30Club 12 (2013) Supporter
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I think most of us 'yams' are not happy with the decision to keep CT at the club.
In relation to Jeffries, the same red top which reported the incident, also reported Jeffries had suspended him from the club so he was clearly unhappy and uncomfortable with the situation.
How much input Jeffries had in relation to the final decision which kept CT at the club, I have no idea.
As an officer of the law in England, its safe to say that both Prosecution and defence lawyers are more than capable of presenting facts and twisting them to suit them or their clients purpose.
The fact CT pleaded guilty means that the 'mitigating factors' would never have come out in open court. The PF would also have submitted a report in which the account CT gave when questioned will have been covered. The judge will have seen this and must have felt there was enough 'mitigation' to stop a custodial sentance. I'm also not sure under Scottish Law whether the crime he pleaded guilty to does actually carry a custodial.
My personal opinion is that Hearts should have sacked him but without knowing legally what CTs rights are under employment law, I'm not sre if that would be an option. If its not, let him rot in the reserves until his contract is up.
If the lad had anything about him, he would ask the club to release him to prevent further embarrassment.
The one thing I can guarantee is that he will receive a hostile welcome from Hearts fans when he walks on the pitch.
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