Taking everything into account, loss of face, dour personality, disruption, possible cost implications, poor results last season, new signings etc etc, how troubled will you be if Colin Calderwood leaves to go to Forest?
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Thread: Is the face bovvered?
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22-06-2011 02:32 PM #1
Is the face bovvered?
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22-06-2011 02:39 PM #3
if he is going to go hope it is sooner rather than later if he is going to stay then fine
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22-06-2011 02:39 PM #4
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I would be slightly bovvered, but as long as we got a good amount of compensation I would quickly get over it
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22-06-2011 02:40 PM #6
Not bothered in the slightest. The issue of why, behind the scenes is a problem, however it may well be that the board 'encourage' him to move on as it's an escape route for a guy who cost loads and so far, has been a bit of a flop.
On Calderwood himself; dour, unimpressive, never convincing of his desire or passion to manage the club and results wise, *****.
Over all better, cheaper options tbh.
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22-06-2011 02:49 PM #7
I would be a little bothered because I don't want us to be looking for yet another new manager.
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22-06-2011 02:49 PM #8
Very bovvered as our club needs stability and this aint gonnae happen with more managerial upheaval.
I hope all the rumours are utter tosh and CC assembles a good squad for the forthcoming season, thus allowing me too bin any lingering doubts that are causing me to stall on renewing my own/families season tickets!
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22-06-2011 02:56 PM #10
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I would be bothered, as how long would it then take us to appoint a manager? Then the new manager has to decide what positions he thinks the team needs and then decide on players he would like to bring in.
Would all this happen before the season starts four weeks on Sunday?
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22-06-2011 03:01 PM #11
I'd be bothered.
Hibs need staility, we need a manager with a full transfer window to work in and a chance to bring in his own players and install his own style and philosophy.
Changing a manager again midway through a transfer window leaves us with another transistional year or 2 whilst another guy gets 'his own players in', thats if we don't hound him out in that timescale!!
Forget the dour personality, Calderwood is employed as a football manager not a clown, and actually listen to what he says at times. He's a guy i like to listen to, he's articulate, honest about what he sees and seems to have a decent idea where he wants to take the team.
If we fund ourself looking for our 3rd manager in a year then yes i have to say i'd be extremely bovvered.
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22-06-2011 03:02 PM #12This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Why have a manager at all? The official site could just run a poll before every game and let the fans choose. After all, we're always in step.
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22-06-2011 03:19 PM #14
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Couldn't care really. We do need stability but I didn't see a thing from the 7 months or so that he has had so far to make me think that this is the guy who has to provide it.
He has un unprecedented opportunity now to do things all his own way with his own set of players so he had better make the most of it if he does stay. No excuses now.
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22-06-2011 03:20 PM #15This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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22-06-2011 03:22 PM #16
Apart from the timing issue, wouldnae be any great loss.
I don't know about the face, but, I saw Hannibal Smith being interviewed in someones shed and he was fuming! There was the obligatory welding gear in the corner, so, he could probably fashion us a new manager from stuff lying about in the shed!Last edited by HUTCHYHIBBY; 22-06-2011 at 03:29 PM.
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22-06-2011 03:23 PM #17
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A new manager probably wouldn't know what positions he feels need filling, until hes had a chance to look at the squad himself. Unless he has been watching Hibs closely over the last couple of months which, depending on who the new mananger is, would be doubtful. By that time, we are already into the season.
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22-06-2011 03:26 PM #18This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Guys having to manage players who didn't fit in with what they were trying to do. Collins, Mixu, Hughes and now Calderwood have all had the problem to some extent and because of that we have been in almost permanent transition.
Obviously a manager has to manage what he has to an extent unless they are in a situation like Fergie or Wenger. An even more radical way of thinking might be to suggest we actually back a manager and stick by him allowing him time to build and develop his side.
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22-06-2011 03:26 PM #19
I've gone for Wee bit bovvered as I can't be arsed going through any more "transitional seasons" but don't think he's going to bring us football that's easy on the eye and is going to be expensive in bills for my chiropractor to fix my craned neck from watching the ball be hoofed from end to end.
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22-06-2011 03:31 PM #20
IF CC does go, we need to get in someone experienced (Davis or Strachan) and sign him up for 5 years telling the fans, "he's here for the 5 years, we're not going to sack him and he can't resign without paying a massive fee so just live with it and work with us.
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22-06-2011 03:39 PM #23
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22-06-2011 04:09 PM #25
I'd be pretty pevved off if he left. Its the last thing we need, another passenger manager who was willing to take a step backwards because he didn't feel comfortable at Hibs.
We need stability. With stability comes consistency, with consistency comes results. We've had none of that for which seems like forever.
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22-06-2011 04:12 PM #26
I'd be abit bovvered. Mainly for Hibernian FC. The last thing we need is more upheaval.
For some unexplained reason, I actually think we have a decent manager, which I accept makes no sense as he's been pretty rank so far. However he must be judged on his own team.
I would lose all respect for him if he bumped Hibernian to be number 2 at forest... who have already sacked him.
If he walked we go for Terry Butcher on a long term deal.
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22-06-2011 04:52 PM #28This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
And because HFC would surely become a 'managerial laughing stock'; if it isn't already.
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22-06-2011 05:09 PM #29This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Yogi lasted 7 games and got 5 points from them. That's an average of 0.7 points per game. Over a season of 38 games, that's about 27 points. 10 points less than we actually did finish on and 1 above last place. 11th place is hardly that much worse off than 10th so that doesn't actually sound that bad.
Of course, results and patterns don't repeat quite as conveniently as that but in the absence of actual data (because we're forecasting) it's about as good as we can get (without getting increasingly more scientific).
Yes, starting 8th and finishing 10th is not a great achievement. But it's better than being relegated and if you choose to trust the projections, sticking with Yogi would have resulted in us being closer to relegation. Of course, sticking with Yogi may have resulted in us in the Top Six but we don't know that.
I'm not trying to present these numbers as some sort of argument proving anything. If I took Calderwoods first 3 games in charge and projected forward, based on those numbers alone, Hibs wouldn't have gained a point under him. If I use the same yardstick with Calderwood as Yogi i.e., 7 games, here's what we get:
First 7 games under CC = 7 points
Average points per game = 1 point
Games played under CC = 30
Projected points under CC = 30 points
Points before CC joined = 5
Projected points at end of season = 5 + 30 = 35
Actual points at end of season = 37
As I said, none of this proves anything but it's interesting to look through. :)Last edited by HibsMax; 22-06-2011 at 05:12 PM.
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