De Graff coming back

**Hibstrooper** · 27-05-2011 11:15 AM

http://www.rtvrijnmond.nl/Homepage/N...naar+Hibernian

I think the rough translation is he has spoken with CC and he'll be back at Hibs next season.

Willing to give him a fresh start and he might be a different player with the team around him. He never got the chance to play with the likes of Palsson or Sodje so interesting to see how he gets on.

**~~Speedway~~** · 27-05-2011 11:18 AM

De Graaf needs to have found some pace, which was what was letting a very good footballing brain down.

***SneakersO'Toole*** · 27-05-2011 11:22 AM

Can't wait to have this midfield dynamo back.

It will be like the excited return of Zememma from loan all over again.

**Centre Hawf** · 27-05-2011 11:23 AM

Because of injuries to his knee and his groin was Edwin de Graaf little action for Kralingers.

Shoddy Translation on my browser but if that's true then I doubt he gathered any pace. As well as that I doubt he'll be a better player than he was before he left. Willing to give him a chance however.

**~~Speedway~~** · 27-05-2011 11:24 AM

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Can't wait to have this midfield dynamo back.

It will be like the excited return of Zememma from loan all over again.

That's unusual to have a positive post from you sneaks. Well done.

**~~Captain Trips~~** · 27-05-2011 11:28 AM

He will be under a fair amount of pressure this time around to perform, I think certainly worth another run and hopefully the fresh start will be what was required.

**hibsbollah** · 27-05-2011 11:30 AM

Ya beauty!... wheres that season ticket renewal form!?

***SneakersO'Toole*** · 27-05-2011 11:30 AM

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That's unusual to have a positive post from you sneaks. Well done.

May I offer my congratulations to you for starting another 'look at me' thread on the MB that is now pushing close to 4 pages. Excellent work.

**Stew the Hibee** · 27-05-2011 11:30 AM

Whilst he isn't the quickest, Hibs fans have been demanding quality - and personally I believe that EDG has got it in abundance. His pedigree of clubs is too great for it to be a one off, and whilst he did miss the sitter against the huns, I think with Pallson in beside him, he will be free to be a more creative player and we will see the real EDG.

***Stevie Reid*** · 27-05-2011 11:31 AM

Definitely prepared to give him another chance if CC believes he's worth it.

Lots of players have thrived under managers different to the ones that signed them. Bobby Petta and Stan Petrov at Celtic immediately spring to mind, they were considered expensive failures under Barnes.

**Craig_in_Prague** · 27-05-2011 11:32 AM

Fail to see what he has to offer to be honest........ But like others, need to see how a new season and fresh start for all develops.

Looks like we've lost Deek, Miller, Stack, and added to the only other quality we had in Zemmama, Bamba etc....... Struggling to see how we're going to be a good side, unless CC has some really good players lined up - on our wage structure, I am not optimistic.

Think the fans are too quick to shoot down the only talent we have had pulling on the jersey, still, very early days in the transfer movements so will need to be patient and come July 23rd I hope we can genuinely be optimistic.

**~~Speedway~~** · 27-05-2011 11:32 AM

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May I offer my congratulations to you for starting another 'look at me' thread on the MB that is now pushing close to 4 pages. Excellent work.

And thank you for giving me the subject matter.

***SneakersO'Toole*** · 27-05-2011 11:46 AM

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And thank you for giving me the subject matter.

You need only to look in the mirror when it comes to subject matter. And find a opinion you don't like.

I don't like your posts. You don't like mine. Lets leave it at that.

***Jones28*** · 27-05-2011 11:47 AM

If anyone had actually watched De Graaf in the short time he was at ER he is actually a decent player, he was just let down by some of the quality around him.

He played little balls and flicks that players with more vision and game awareness would have seen and run on to.

He will be a new player with Sproule (who may not have the best footballing brain, but has the pace to compensate), Vaz Te and Sodje to feed.

IMHO he's a far superior player to Liam Miller these days and I know who I would be more bothered about if they left.

This time around he has Palsson, Thornhill and Scott to add a bit of dig so hopefully he can play his game and they they can play theirs

**~~Captain Trips~~** · 27-05-2011 11:48 AM

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If anyone had actually watched De Graaf in the short time he was at ER he is actually a decent player, he was just let down by some of the quality around him.

He played little balls and flicks that players with more vision and game awareness would have seen and run on to.

He will be a new player with Sproule (who may not have the best footballing brain, but has the pace to compensate), Vaz Te and Sodje to feed.

IMHO he's a far superior player to Liam Miller these days and I know who I would be more bothered about if they left.

You have a point but if that is case I fear he still may have the same issue of quality around him in midfield.

**~~Speedway~~** · 27-05-2011 11:49 AM

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You need only to look in the mirror when it comes to subject matter. And find a opinion you don't like.

I don't like your posts. You don't like mine. Lets leave it at that.

No problem with that.

**Stew the Hibee** · 27-05-2011 12:04 PM

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If anyone had actually watched De Graaf in the short time he was at ER he is actually a decent player, he was just let down by some of the quality around him.

He played little balls and flicks that players with more vision and game awareness would have seen and run on to.

He will be a new player with Sproule (who may not have the best footballing brain, but has the pace to compensate), Vaz Te and Sodje to feed.

IMHO he's a far superior player to Liam Miller these days and I know who I would be more bothered about if they left.

This time around he has Palsson, Thornhill and Scott to add a bit of dig so hopefully he can play his game and they they can play theirs

Agree 100% - especially when regarding Vaz Te. Whenever I've seen him I've seen Vaz Te play a little flick that some of our current players aren't able to "read". With a player like De Graff to play with, then these two could link up extremely well - kind of like Zemmama and Benji did IMO.

***blackpoolhibs*** · 27-05-2011 12:24 PM

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If anyone had actually watched De Graaf in the short time he was at ER he is actually a decent player, he was just let down by some of the quality around him.

He played little balls and flicks that players with more vision and game awareness would have seen and run on to.

He will be a new player with Sproule (who may not have the best footballing brain, but has the pace to compensate), Vaz Te and Sodje to feed.

IMHO he's a far superior player to Liam Miller these days and I know who I would be more bothered about if they left.

This time around he has Palsson, Thornhill and Scott to add a bit of dig so hopefully he can play his game and they they can play theirs

Ah thats what i was doing wrong, i was not actually watching him stumble over the ball, i was not actually watching him spray passes all over each stand. And i certainly was not watching him struggle with any kind of pace or even composure on the ball.

I need to actually watch him.

**~~Saorsa~~** · 27-05-2011 12:25 PM

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Ah thats what i was doing wrong, i was not actually watching him stumble over the ball, i was not actually watching him spray passes all over each stand. And i certainly was not watching him struggle with any kind of pace or even composure on the ball.

I need to actually watch him.

**Zazu62** · 27-05-2011 12:29 PM

Cmon edwin prove the doubters wrong

***Bishop Hibee*** · 27-05-2011 12:31 PM

He's been awful in a Hibs shirt so far but new season=new start so I'll give him a chance.

***Jim44*** · 27-05-2011 12:32 PM

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Ah thats what i was doing wrong, i was not actually watching him stumble over the ball, i was not actually watching him spray passes all over each stand. And i certainly was not watching him struggle with any kind of pace or even composure on the ball.

I need to actually watch him.

I can't understand all the fuss about the return of a flop who's back we coudn't see quickly enough last time round. Maybe he did suffer from playing alongside dross but there are precious few signs that he wiil be playing with better players next season. However, maybe Calderwood expects to find the elusive extra one per cent in a revived De Graff.

***blackpoolhibs*** · 27-05-2011 12:33 PM

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He's been awful in a Hibs shirt so far but new season=new start so I'll give him a chance.

Dont be silly, were you actually watching him?

***Bishop Hibee*** · 27-05-2011 12:36 PM

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Dont be silly, were you actually watching him?

I've tried hypnotherapy to repress the memories of his performances last season but they were too deeply ingrained

***Spike Mandela*** · 27-05-2011 12:37 PM

Anyone know how he got on at the club he was on loan to?

**hibsbollah** · 27-05-2011 12:55 PM

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Dont be silly, were you actually watching him?

This is midfield 'unseen work' all over again.

**iwasthere1972** · 27-05-2011 01:01 PM

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Anyone know how he got on at the club he was on loan to?

He played 5 times for Excelsior and scored a goal.

***3pm*** · 27-05-2011 01:03 PM

Problem is we have too many players who need 'better' players round them! Can we not just sign someone decent who is prepared to get wired regardless of whether his team mates are good or bad? Certainly it helps if your team mates are good but it's a very convenient excuse.

I didnae see it affect Jim Leighton and Darren Jackson in 97!