Scottish cup

[hibee-shtuggie]

How is it Motherwell are only getting 16,000 tickets for the final? They requested half, which is fair enough, and they are given 16,000. When will the old-firm bias end?

[Green forever]

[QUOTE=hibee-shtuggie;2787911]How is it Motherwell are only getting 16,000 tickets for the final? They requested half, which is fair enough, and they are given 16,000. When will the old-firm bias end?[/QUOTE

The answer is never.

[degenerated]

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How is it Motherwell are only getting 16,000 tickets for the final? They requested half, which is fair enough, and they are given 16,000. When will the old-firm bias end?

iirc that is half of the available tickets for the cup final, the other 20,000 are kept to allow bunterish lickpsittles the opportunity to get their snout in the trough

[Diclonius]

Why do corporate interests get more tickets than the support for one entire team?

I've never got that.

[hibee-shtuggie]

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iirc that is half of the available tickets for the cup final, the other 20,000 are kept to allow bunterish lickpsittles the opportunity to get their snout in the trough

I thought the figure for the 'executive tickets' was around 10,000, so that would leave 42,000 for general sale. Meaning that Motherwell are getting less than 2/5s?

[degenerated]

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Why do corporate interests get more tickets than the support for one entire team?

I've never got that.

each member club also gets a ticket allocation for the final as well.

[SRHibs]

I'm sure it's just being done to maximise ticket sales. Can't see Motherwell attracting much more than 16,000 supporters to be honest.

[Stevie Reid]

Hard to sympathise when they played in a semi final attended by less than 12,000 supporters and the game was played only a few miles away.

[lucky]

They regularly attract around 4000 fans for their games. As such get 4 times that amount seems very good. Celtic attract 40000 and above so the regular football goer is losing out. So can't see how the old firm are gaining here

[col02]

Motherwell have gained big time in the allocation of tickets it would appear as like already mentioned they hardly warrant a figure on par with Celtic! If I was an ST holder at Parkhead I would be a bit miffed at missing out on a cup final to some part time Motherwell fan!

[magnificent_seven]

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Hard to sympathise when they played in a semi final attended by less than 12,000 supporters and the game was played only a few miles away.

Spot on. I personally don't think they deserve half when they bring a dreadful support everywhere they go. Home crowds are mince too.

[IanM]

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Motherwell have gained big time in the allocation of tickets it would appear as like already mentioned they hardly warrant a figure on par with Celtic! If I was an ST holder at Parkhead I would be a bit miffed at missing out on a cup final to some part time Motherwell fan!

spot on - embarrassing semi final figures and even more embarrassing to be asking for more tickets than what they sold for the semi final..

[_hucks_]

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spot on - embarrassing semi final figures and even more embarrassing to be asking for more tickets than what they sold for the semi final..

There will always be higher demand for tickets in the final that semi finals. I don't think any non OF club would sell a significant amount of tickets to a semi unless the fixture in itself was a biggy (ie against old firm or derby match). A lot of folks will opt not to travel for the semi knowing they'll have to do it all over again for the final or watch their team lose!

[sKipper]

Motherwell will get the full allocation of 22000 only if they sell the initial 16k quickly.

If they dont the withheld 6k will go to Celtic.

The prawn sandwich lot and other clubs get 10k. The vast majority of which will end up in Celtic supporters hands.

[The_Sauz]

How many did killie get for the league cup final
I think Motherwell should get about the same as they get roughly the same crowds, and both have the potential to bring around 16/18000 fans for a final.
Just look at Hibs/Hearts in the past when we played in a semi final, then compare it to how many went to the final

[Hermit Crab]

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How many did killie get for the league cup final
I think Motherwell should get about the same as they get roughly the same crowds, and both have the potential to bring around 16/18000 fans for a final.
Just look at Hibs/Hearts in the past when we played in a semi final, then compare it to how many went to the final

IIRC there were only around 6000 of us Hibs fans there on that Thursday night when we beat Rangers on pens to make the final but everybody wanted a ticket for the final v Livingston because they were seemingly lesser opposition but didnt bother turning up for the semi. It would be the same with any other SPL team put in that position.

I also dont buy this im not going to Tynie, Parkhead or Ibrox because i wont give them the money pash.

[Baldy Foghorn]

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IIRC there were only around 6000 of us Hibs fans there on that Thursday night when we beat Rangers on pens to make the final but everybody wanted a ticket for the final v Livingston because they were seemingly lesser opposition but didnt bother turning up for the semi. It would be the same with any other SPL team put in that position.

I also dont buy this im not going to Tynie, Parkhead or Ibrox because i wont give them the money pash.

[Baldy Foghorn]

How anyone on here can slate Motherwell fans is beyond me..... The crowd on Sunday was 7.2k..... Did we not take 38,000 to the livingston final?

Quite a considerable difference in anyone's book

[Stevie Reid]

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How anyone on here can slate Motherwell fans is beyond me..... The crowd on Sunday was 7.2k..... Did we not take 38,000 to the livingston final?

Quite a considerable difference in anyone's book

Which means we most likely had more supporters at a game on Easter Sunday which was largely meaningless (for us) and was live on the telly than they did at their first cup semi final in 5 years - a game that was played on their doorstep and was very winnable, as proved by the scoreline.

Very poor comparison IMO.

[Baldy Foghorn]

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Which means we most likely had more supporters at a game on Easter Sunday which was largely meaningless (for us) and was live on the telly than they did at their first cup semi final in 5 years - a game that was played on their doorstep and was very winnable, as proved by the scoreline.

Very poor comparison IMO.

Poor comparison how?? Look at our average home games then and what is the attendance? Im guessing roughly 12k, still 26,000 short of Livingston Final.... Is that a better comparison for you? It still equates to the same thing

[The_Sauz]

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Which means we most likely had more supporters at a game on Easter Sunday which was largely meaningless (for us) and was live on the telly than they did at their first cup semi final in 5 years - a game that was played on their doorstep and was very winnable, as proved by the scoreline.

Very poor comparison IMO.

So what happened when we played Hearts in the SC SF when we did not even sell half our tickets....FFS our biggest rival in Cup semi..

[Baldy Foghorn]

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Poor comparison how?? Look at our average home games then and what is the attendance? Im guessing roughly 12k, still 26,000 short of Livingston Final.... Is that a better comparison for you? It still equates to the same thing

roughly 3 times more went to Livingston Final, so works out about the same with Motherwell who have about 5,000 at home games, give or take a few

[Baldy Foghorn]

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So what happened when we played Hearts in the SC SF when we did not even sell half our tickets....FFS our biggest rival in Cup semi..

Exactly......A poor crowd that day from us

[The_Sauz]

btw....why are we even having this discussion about the DIDDY Cup anyway, let just leave to the BIG teams who have a special relationship with it!

[Stevie Reid]

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Poor comparison how?? Look at our average home games then and what is the attendance? Im guessing roughly 12k, still 26,000 short of Livingston Final.... Is that a better comparison for you? It still equates to the same thing

Motherwell have had a very good season, and secured their place in the top 6 prior to semi, winning 3 and drawing 1 of their 4 matches in the run up to the game. The game was their first semi final in 5 years and played on a Saturday against opposition that were very beatable and on a poor run themselves, and played at Hampden which is very close to Motherwell - yet they couldn't attract more than 10,000 of their own supporters along to the game. Now they are getting 10,000 more tickets than their average home attendance - very reasonable IMO.

Yes we took 38,000 to Livi, but that was due to the fact that the opposition was Livingston who were considered to be very beatable and would only take a tiny support themselves, so the extra tickets were available no matter what. Had we being playing either of the Old Firm we would have been laughed at had we asked for an allocation of 38,000. If we were in the final against the OF this year and got an allocation of 22,000 - 10,000 more than our average home gate - then we would be well served IMO.

The issue here is that Celtic obviously have much more of a claim to more tickets than Motherwell in every way - average home attendance and semi final turn out. Why should Motherwell get more tickets?

[Hermit Crab]

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So what happened when we played Hearts in the SC SF when we did not even sell half our tickets....FFS our biggest rival in Cup semi..

We sold more than half mate

[Hermit Crab]

[QUOTE=Stevie Reid;2787985]Motherwell have had a very good season, and secured their place in the top 6 prior to semi, winning 3 and drawing 1 of their 4 matches in the run up to the game. The game was their first semi final in 5 years and played on a Saturday against opposition that were very beatable and on a poor run themselves, and played at Hampden which is very close to Motherwell - yet they couldn't attract more than 10,000 of their own supporters along to the game. Now they are getting 10,000 more tickets than their average home attendance - very reasonable IMO.

Yes we took 38,000 to Livi, but that was due to the fact that the opposition was Livingston who were considered to be very beatable and would only take a tiny support themselves, so the extra tickets were available no matter what. Had we being playing either of the Old Firm we would have been laughed at had we asked for an allocation of 38,000. If we were in the final against the OF this year and got an allocation of 22,000 - 10,000 more than our average home gate - then we would be well served IMO.

The issue here is that Celtic obviously have much more of a claim to more tickets than Motherwell in every way - average home attendance and semi final turn out. Why should Motherwell get more tickets?[/QUOTE]


Because they are entitled to them surely?. It should not be the case that your avge gate is only around 5k so your only getting 10k. Ticket allocations should be 50/50. Tae hell sponsors and fat cats who expect tickets for all major games at Hampden.

[Stevie Reid]

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[Because they are entitled to them

In what way? Under SFA rules? In which case they will get what they are entitled to.

[The_Sauz]

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We sold more than half mate

Not according to the TO

[Hermit Crab]

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In what way? Under SFA rules? In which case they will get what they are entitled to.

You mean these rules they make up as they go along to suit the ugly sisters? The same rules that have been proven inconsistent by a QC?