Hibs Under 13's.. AC Milan ..0..Hibernian..1 ..FT/Italian Tournament Updates

[Tam]

Just an update, Hibs under 13's are playing in the prestigious Milan tornanent with there first game kicking off today at lunch time. Final score was AC Milan 0 Hibernian 1.

[sleeping giant]

Outstanding


Great result for them. One they will remember forever

[MSK]

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Just an update, Hibs under 13's are playing in the prestigious Milan tornanent with there first game kicking off today at lunch time. Final score was AC Milan 0 Hibernian 1.

What a result !! thanks for the update Tam ..

[sleeping giant]

Who scored ?

Any team news ?

What the weather like in Milan

[easty]

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Who scored ?

Any team news ?

What the weather like in Milan

Lewis Stevenson scored, the wee man can still pass for a 12 year old.

[Sean1875]

brilliant news! the futures bright!

[sleeping giant]

Hibs have previous in this tourny.

We won it a couple of years ago .

Nae pressure lads

[sleeping giant]

Still trying to find the scorer. Lets get his name on a thread title
Great stuff. They all must be chuffed to bits.

Great wee feel good story

[Phil MaGlass]

Mibbe change the words from barcelona, Real Madrid song and try to fit AC.Milan somewhere

[HibbyAndy]

Outstanding result

[Tam]

No this is a different tornament from previous years.

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Hibs have previous in this tourny.

We won it a couple of years ago .

Nae pressure lads

[Tam]

Goalscorer Anthony O'Kane with Hibs goalkeeper Quinn saving a penalty. Next game this afternoon v Cremonesse at 4pm

[MSK]

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Goalscorer Anthony O'Kane with Hibs goalkeeper Quinn saving a penalty. Next game this afternoon v Cremonesse at 4pm

Mon the wee cabbage's ...

[Sodje_18]

Outstanding result
Wishing them all the best for the rest of the tournament

[ChilliEater]

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Mon the wee cabbage's ...

The Sprouts?

[ItalianHibee]

well done kids!

[hibee92]

great news get them in the first team

[Seanair]

We seem to be able to compete with bigger countries at these early ages, but then the Andy Roxburgh/SFA coaching methods kick in and we're c**p at senior level!

[easty]

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We seem to be able to compete with bigger countries at these early ages, but then the Andy Roxburgh/SFA coaching methods kick in and we're c**p at senior level!

It would be really interesting to find out why this happens.

I do get the impression, with a lot of young players who make it into SPL sides, that they think they've now 'made it' as footballers. Maybe young Scottish lads need to try a lot harder between, say, 17 and 21 to become as good as they can. Rather than be content to be part of an SPL first team, come in to training early, stay late, get as fit as possible, try to be as good a footballer as you possibly can, don't just be as good as you need to be to play in SPL.

Though I have been known to talk a lot of baws....what do I know!

[Leishy1995]

Good result, go on the mini hibees

[Barney McGrew]

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Next game this afternoon v Cremonesse at 4pm

I've just heard it was Cremonese 1 Hibs 0 FT.

The goal was apparently a mile offside and the Hibs team played well enough to get a draw.

That might be duff info though

[Hank Schrader]

Is this not the tournament the Hibs laddies won a few years back and that pr*ck Levien bumped his gums because it knocked Hearts off the back page of the Evening News. Apparantly the fact the plums had opened their (rented) football academy was a bigger story and he made his views public on that matter.

Good luck to the U13's, doing the club proud.

[Barney McGrew]

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Is this not the tournament the Hibs laddies won a few years back and that pr*ck Levien bumped his gums because it knocked Hearts off the back page of the Evening News

I believe that it's a more prestigious competition they've been invited to this time because of our showings in previous tournaments at that level.

Either way, it's good news

Next game tomorrow is now a must win, against Padova Calcio at 10am.

[Hibby Bairn]

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We seem to be able to compete with bigger countries at these early ages, but then the Andy Roxburgh/SFA coaching methods kick in and we're c**p at senior level!

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It would be really interesting to find out why this happens.

Been like this for years. Something not right in the later teen years and indeed into early 20's.

[moredun]

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It would be really interesting to find out why this happens.

I do get the impression, with a lot of young players who make it into SPL sides, that they think they've now 'made it' as footballers. Maybe young Scottish lads need to try a lot harder between, say, 17 and 21 to become as good as they can. Rather than be content to be part of an SPL first team, come in to training early, stay late, get as fit as possible, try to be as good a footballer as you possibly can, don't just be as good as you need to be to play in SPL.

Though I have been known to talk a lot of baws....what do I know!

I agree, and the next step, or sorry maybe it should be the first step, get out of Scotland

[truehibernian]

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Been like this for years. Something not right in the later teen years and indeed into early 20's.

From personal experience I would say that it is the "fault" of clubs like Hutchison Vale, Salveson, Tynecastle etc over the years.

Yes, admittedly, they are top juvenile clubs to play for and the chance of being scouted is far greater. However the coaching is very much based on the physical aspect of the game IMHO and not the basic skill levels and working with the football. The emphasis is also far too heavy on "win, win, win".........a defeat for clubs like that is treated in the same manner as a defeat for a pro club.

It's all very well encouraging a winning mentality and a real hunger to win football matches. But the wee medals from Emslie's really mean nothing for me......it's what a player can do with the ball, the way he can dribble, trap, control and turn. His height and physique should not matter if he has the correct way of treating the football. In any case, if you make the ball do the work, a bigger, slower, more physical player shouldn't get near you.

Yes you need your solid, physical players in a side. But for me, Scottish football in particular, doesn't spend half as much time with the actual football as other countries, nor does it encourage skill. Watch and listen to a Scottish coach if a wee trick or a touch in an U15's game doesn't come off.........its met with criticism rather than encouragement for having the courage to try.

Coaching needs to change completely in our game. There are loads of Wotherspoon's, Murphy's, Templeton's and Goodwillie's out there, however a mixture of poor coaching, poor scouting, nepotism, bad education on and off the field and bad associations/peer groups mean we are letting hundreds slip through the net IMHO. Far too many folk out there far too interested in getting their wee medals and trophies engraved and treating the juvenile leagues as the "careers" they never had themselves.

I remember years ago playing in tournaments in both Germany and Holland. We did incredibly well against teams that were very skilful, yet a lot weaker physically. We had good, good players ourselves (some still in the pro game now......just ).....but we competed in the Scottish way, tearing into tackles and getting "in about them". What struck me at the time was the conduct of the coaches and parents......they encourage skill and a defeat was more of a "hard lines son" approach than "what the **** are you playing at" type approach that our coaches had with us. Their players were also very good on the ball, just hadn't grown into their bodies as quickly as we had. That is just physiology and maturity at the end of the day........doesn't (or shouldn't) affect natural talent with a football......for me that never leaves you. The other factor was facilities. At that time the synthetic pitches had just come in and were all over both Holland and Germany......for everyone to use in the community. We are only seeing them appear now if we are being brutally honest......Spartans being an excellent, but way too late, example.

Just my opinion of course.

[Speedway]

If we'd put our first team out against AC Milans under 13s, I wouldn't have been confident of a 0-1 away win.

[Haymaker]

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Just my opinion of course.

And a good one. I work in youth football and the attitude of "top" small clubs is terrible across the whole UK.

The whole system needs a shake up.

[half.time.draw.]

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From personal experience I would say that it is the "fault" of clubs like Hutchison Vale, Salveson, Tynecastle etc over the years.

Yes, admittedly, they are top juvenile clubs to play for and the chance of being scouted is far greater. However the coaching is very much based on the physical aspect of the game IMHO and not the basic skill levels and working with the football. The emphasis is also far too heavy on "win, win, win".........a defeat for clubs like that is treated in the same manner as a defeat for a pro club.

It's all very well encouraging a winning mentality and a real hunger to win football matches. But the wee medals from Emslie's really mean nothing for me......it's what a player can do with the ball, the way he can dribble, trap, control and turn. His height and physique should not matter if he has the correct way of treating the football. In any case, if you make the ball do the work, a bigger, slower, more physical player shouldn't get near you.

Yes you need your solid, physical players in a side. But for me, Scottish football in particular, doesn't spend half as much time with the actual football as other countries, nor does it encourage skill. Watch and listen to a Scottish coach if a wee trick or a touch in an U15's game doesn't come off.........its met with criticism rather than encouragement for having the courage to try.

Coaching needs to change completely in our game. There are loads of Wotherspoon's, Murphy's, Templeton's and Goodwillie's out there, however a mixture of poor coaching, poor scouting, nepotism, bad education on and off the field and bad associations/peer groups mean we are letting hundreds slip through the net IMHO. Far too many folk out there far too interested in getting their wee medals and trophies engraved and treating the juvenile leagues as the "careers" they never had themselves.

I remember years ago playing in tournaments in both Germany and Holland. We did incredibly well against teams that were very skilful, yet a lot weaker physically. We had good, good players ourselves (some still in the pro game now......just ).....but we competed in the Scottish way, tearing into tackles and getting "in about them". What struck me at the time was the conduct of the coaches and parents......they encourage skill and a defeat was more of a "hard lines son" approach than "what the **** are you playing at" type approach that our coaches had with us. Their players were also very good on the ball, just hadn't grown into their bodies as quickly as we had. That is just physiology and maturity at the end of the day........doesn't (or shouldn't) affect natural talent with a football......for me that never leaves you. The other factor was facilities. At that time the synthetic pitches had just come in and were all over both Holland and Germany......for everyone to use in the community. We are only seeing them appear now if we are being brutally honest......Spartans being an excellent, but way too late, example.

Just my opinion of course.

Glad it's only your opinion, what about the players that have came from these clubs, I watch my boy at tynecastle every week and it's not about winning all the time it's about being winners.

[truehibernian]

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Glad it's only your opinion, what about the players that have came from these clubs, I watch my boy at tynecastle every week and it's not about winning all the time it's about being winners.

And I hope your lad does really well and if he gets scouted and it's what you want for him, fantastic.

Yes, there are countless examples of good players from the clubs.....Derek, Garry, KT etc in recent times. However I played at that level for a long time and trust me, there were better players who slipped through the net for a variety of reasons, some down to size......didn't matter that they were the most skilful. They sat on the subs bench because a "coach" saw it that he didn't play.......IMHO every player should get time on the pitch at youth level, under the age of 17......it's that simple.

I was also lucky enough to play in tournaments that included Rangers and Celtic and saw players such as John Spencer close up.......a terrific player and one of the only players out his side that progressed. He had skill in abundance and it was natural. Yet he was the smallest and slightest in the side.

I am also going on my experiences of playing at that level abroad mate and the coaching is way different and for the better, again, only my opinion.

I do wish your boy all the best......should have gone to Hutchie though