1 Graham Stack - Keep
2 Michael Hart - Release
6 Ian Murray - Release
9 Colin Nish - Release
10 Derek Riordan - Keep
11 John Rankin - Release
13 Thomas Flynn - Undecided
14 Francis Dickoh - Release
15 Steven Thicot - Release
16 Lewis Stevenson Undecided
17 Kevin McBride - Release
18 Akpo Sodje - Release
19 Darryl Duffy - Release
(on loan from Brist R )
20 Paul Hanlon - Keep
21 Graeme Smith - Release
22 Daniel Galbraith- Release
23 Valdas Trakys - Release
24 David Wotherspoon - Keep
25 David Stephens - Keep
26 Matt Thornhill Undecided
27 Lewis Horner -Undecided
28 Callum Booth - Keep
29 Kurtis Byrne -Undecided
30 Scott Taggart -Un-decided
31 Mark Brown - Keep
32 Sean Welsh -Undecided
33 Liam Miller - Release
34 Richie Towell - Keep
41 Jakub Divis -Undecided
44 Martin Scott - Keep
91 Victor Palsson - Keep
Thirteen - Release
Ten - Keeps
Eight - Undecided
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13-02-2011 03:44 PM #1Coaching Staff
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Our Squad Keep or Release ? - Major Rebuild for Me
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No disrespect, but your off your nut.
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Thx for that means a lot to me
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No problem buddy Originally Posted by simply the best
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You might have difficulty releasing players that aren't out of contract. Originally Posted by simply the best
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Hart, Murray and Sodje from your list.
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[QUOTE=simply the best;2734639]1 Graham Stack - Keep
2 Michael Hart - Release
6 Ian Murray - keep (coaching role)
9 Colin Nish - Release
10 Derek Riordan - Keep
11 John Rankin - Release
13 Thomas Flynn - release (he needs to get his career started. Not gonna be with us IMO)
14 Francis Dickoh - Keep
15 Steven Thicot - Release
16 Lewis Stevenson Keep (1yr deal)
17 Kevin McBride - Release
18 Akpo Sodje - Keep
19 Darryl Duffy - Release
(on loan from Brist R )
20 Paul Hanlon - Keep
21 Graeme Smith - Release
22 Daniel Galbraith- Keep
23 Valdas Trakys - Release
24 David Wotherspoon - Keep
25 David Stephens - Keep
26 Matt Thornhill Keep
27 Lewis Horner -Keep
28 Callum Booth - Keep
29 Kurtis Byrne -Release (see Flynn)
30 Scott Taggart - Keep
31 Mark Brown - Keep
32 Sean Welsh -Keep
33 Liam Miller - Release (wages could be better used)
34 Richie Towell - Keep if we can (but doubt that!
41 Jakub Divis -Keep
44 Martin Scott - Keep
91 Victor Palsson - Keep
11 - Release
20 - Keeps
Sign 5 players and look to develop youth.
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13-02-2011 03:58 PM #7Coaching Staff
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I know that Originally Posted by scoopyboy
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Why release Sodje?
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13-02-2011 04:06 PM #9Coaching Staff
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I think he is a short term stop gap signing not the longterm answer, he wont get better at 32 yrs old and does not look like a touch player.
Dont get me wrong I am very happy with him at the moment, just not for the longterm thats all.
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The team starts playing far better, we start getting results and the "major rebuild" chat has stated again - what a load of nonsense, and that statement does not even cover some of the decisions in the opening post i.e. lets keep players that have played 90 mins and get rid of the rest - not really a sound basis for decision making on a players future.
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I don't disagree with many of your assessments. Originally Posted by simply the best
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I agree with some of the releases but to have Sodje on there, one which I wan't excited about as a signing, he's played two games, scored one, set up one and hasn't put a foot wrong in either. I can't understand the logic behind that one. He may be coming to the end of his career, but if he gives us two seasons like the two games, then I'd want him to be here. Originally Posted by simply the best
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2 starts 1 goal 1 assist 32 years old fit as a fiddle has 3 years at least in him in scotland Originally Posted by simply the best
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ps wtf is a touch player ?
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13-02-2011 04:13 PM #14Coaching Staff
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See my post above, nothing wrong with him just cant see him sustaining his current form or getting better at 32 yrs old. Originally Posted by aberhibsfc
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This season we need to fight tooth and nail to stay in league longterm I hope we can get back to playing football, I just dont Sodje fitting in to that plan.
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13-02-2011 04:17 PM #15Coaching Staff
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Sorry if I upset you he is fine no probs I just dont want him there longterm. Originally Posted by cocopops1875
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He has had 4 shots from edge of the box the fans in the stands are in greater danger than the net, he has no touch and just blasts the ball as hard as he can I was amazed at how composed he was when he took his goal but that was out of character on what we have seen to date.
it is just opinions mate dont get upset.
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Who are all the players we are going to bring in ? Originally Posted by simply the best
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Judging Sodje and Thornhill after 2 / 3 games is madness.
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I shouldnt worry NJH. Thats why they will be here next season. Originally Posted by NJ Hibee
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He's only just turned 30. Originally Posted by simply the best
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Maybe he'll find his game suited to the SPL? I think folk may have been going over the top about his first 2 performances but it's pretty essential to have a big guy up front these days- even as an option, so why not him?
I wouldn't offer many of the others who are out of contract new deals tbh. Riordan and Miller if their demands are reasonable and I also think Galbraith deserves more time, perhaps a 2 year deal. At a push Lewis Stevenson can have a 1 year deal but really needs to get the finger out- he's had 5 years to establish himself and not done so.. and before anyone says it's the managers fault, he's been picked over 100 times.
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All the players who are out of contract in the summer will probably leave, with the exceptions of Riordan who I still think will stay (though that might be the heart ruling the head) and Stack who I think might sign a new deal.
All those with a contract for next season will probably still be here as I don't see Hibs paying anybody off.
With that in mind our squad for next season will be;
Stack
Brown
Divis
Hart
Murray
Booth
Hanlon
Stephens
Wotherspoon
Palsson
Thornhill
Scott
Riordan
Sodje
With the following players leaving;
Smith
Thicot
Dickoh
Towell
Rankin
Stevenson
McBride
Miller (Still not sure about him though, he might stay)
Galbraith
Duffy
Nish
Trakys
If that is the squad for next season, bearing in mind those players' positions, we need to strengthen in the following areas in the summer;
right back
experienced centre half
couple of wide midfielders
a couple of strikers
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Who's to say his poor shooting from distance isn't out of character and the composed finish is what we can expect on a regular basis. Originally Posted by simply the best
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He has had 4 shots from edge of the box the fans in the stands are in greater danger than the net, he has no touch and just blasts the ball as hard as he can I was amazed at how composed he was when he took his goal but that was out of character on what we have seen to date.
it is just opinions mate dont get upset.
And how can we keep Stack for the future when he's been out injured for most of his time with us?
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That's my shopping list too Originally Posted by FalkirkHibee
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Speed is needed - hungry players like Scott etc.
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Why does everybody want to release Galbraith? A young player, hopefully, about to get an U21 cap. He is well worth another season - at least. Originally Posted by FalkirkHibee
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First you have players down for release who have contracts extending beyond the end of this season - buying out contracts costs money.
Second, you have players down to be kept who are either on loan, or whose contracts end at the close of this season. It's not up to Hibs alone whether these guys stay - they'll have to be made offers, and they may get better offers elsewhere.
This suggest to me that you've hardly begun to think things through in anything like a rational or collected manner.
Do you REALLY think CC would release Sodje and Thornhill? He's just signed them up, for crying out loud. Galbraith's just been called up to the Scotland U-21's - so he has to go? You release Ian Murray, and send the signal to everyone else that if a player cares enough to come back to ER and give 100%, he'll be sacked at the first opportunity?
The team's just managed to put two decent results together and oull themselves away from the bottom of the table a wee bit, and you're starting a "Let's have a big discussion about who is or isn't good enough for the Hibees" thread?
Sack everyone YOU want to sack and we'll be needing a lot more than a right back, an experienced centre half, a couple of wide midfielders and a couple of strikers - and this isn't the time to be starting a moanfest about various players real or imagined deficiencies. We can still be relegated.
You're a wee bit too quick off the mark here, chum.
Threads like these leave me utterly astonished that any player anywhere would want to play for "supporters" like you.
Except, I suppose, that most clubs have them.
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To be honest, he's in the same category as Miller in that I'm not too sure what will happen with him and I'm not too fussed either way if he stays or goes. Originally Posted by sahib
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I'm not convinced that Calderwood favours him as he's struggled to get a regular game under him. He is still young though so he still has plenty time to improve his game.
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Very few teams that I can think of have changed their squad in such a dramatic fashion and achieved instant success. Burley's Hearts squad one of the exceptions to the rule.
CC will be able to make a lot of changes in the summer but right now getting rid of Murray and Sodje for example is madness. They may not be a long term answer but they would certainly have a role to play next season.
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So what you saying? Any ex player can come back to Hibs perform rubbish and should still get a new contract. Murray has been poor from what I have seen. Originally Posted by Doddie
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13-02-2011 05:04 PM #27Coaching Staff
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CLARIFICATION
Peeps seem to have misuderstood my thread, I KNOW we have players under contract and on loan players, my opinions on whether the stay or not will not be possible I KNOW THAT.
This opening post is simply my thoughts. I have no idea who to bring in I dont get paid £100,000+ a year or have time to look for players, I dont have assistants and a scouting team either.
I have not judged Thornhill I am simpy undecided on him, Sodje is 31 yrs has the reputation and form of a journeyman who is all effort and does not score many I am very happy with him just dont see him as a longterm solution. IT IS ONLY MY OPINION.
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Takes alot more than that to upset me mate just cant get my head round what more you need to see ? in 2 games he has a great record cold hard facts, now he may well turn out to be gash long term but at the moment he looks to be doing a great job Originally Posted by simply the best
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He has had 4 shots from edge of the box the fans in the stands are in greater danger than the net, he has no touch and just blasts the ball as hard as he can I was amazed at how composed he was when he took his goal but that was out of character on what we have seen to date.
it is just opinions mate dont get upset.
im not saying he is the second coming but if he continues to live up to the start he's had he might just be a legend :cgwa
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1 Graham Stack - Keep
2 Michael Hart - Release
6 Ian Murray - Keep
9 Colin Nish - Release
10 Derek Riordan - Keep
11 John Rankin - Release
13 Thomas Flynn - Release
14 Francis Dickoh - Keep
15 Steven Thicot - Release
16 Lewis Stevenson - Keep
17 Kevin McBride - Release
18 Akpo Sodje - Keep
19 Darryl Duffy - Release
20 Paul Hanlon - Keep
21 Graeme Smith - Release
22 Daniel Galbraith- Keep
23 Valdas Trakys - Release
24 David Wotherspoon - Keep
25 David Stephens - Keep
26 Matt Thornhill - Keep
27 Lewis Horner - Keep
28 Callum Booth - Keep
29 Kurtis Byrne - Keep
30 Scott Taggart - Keep
31 Mark Brown - Keep
32 Sean Welsh -Keep
33 Liam Miller - Keep
34 Richie Towell - Keep
41 Jakub Divis - Keep
44 Martin Scott - Keep
91 Victor Palsson - Keep
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See my post above Clarification. This is a Hibs Forum it is here to genarate debate, if you think it is wrong to discuss the squad because we have won two games FWIW I think your wrong. Because Murray is a Hibby he should be here for life Originally Posted by Doddie
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Second, you have players down to be kept who are either on loan, or whose contracts end at the close of this season. It's not up to Hibs alone whether these guys stay - they'll have to be made offers, and they may get better offers elsewhere.
This suggest to me that you've hardly begun to think things through in anything like a rational or collected manner.
Do you REALLY think CC would release Sodje and Thornhill? He's just signed them up, for crying out loud. Galbraith's just been called up to the Scotland U-21's - so he has to go? You release Ian Murray, and send the signal to everyone else that if a player cares enough to come back to ER and give 100%, he'll be sacked at the first opportunity?
The team's just managed to put two decent results together and oull themselves away from the bottom of the table a wee bit, and you're starting a "Let's have a big discussion about who is or isn't good enough for the Hibees" thread?
Sack everyone YOU want to sack and we'll be needing a lot more than a right back, an experienced centre half, a couple of wide midfielders and a couple of strikers - and this isn't the time to be starting a moanfest about various players real or imagined deficiencies. We can still be relegated.
You're a wee bit too quick off the mark here, chum.
Threads like these leave me utterly astonished that any player anywhere would want to play for "supporters" like you.
Except, I suppose, that most clubs have them. Remember how he left and remember his comments (by the way they domt bother me at all)
These are only my thoughts on the squad I know it CAN'T and won't happen.
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