Pat Nevin

***Jim44*** · 30-01-2011 04:13 PM

According to him, our number one problem is lack of a goalscorer. "Put in Anthony Stokes, and they're probably middle of the table." Who wants to be middle of the table and have to put up with troublemakers like Stokes?

**Beefster** · 30-01-2011 04:14 PM

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According to him, our number one problem is lack of a goalscorer. "Put in Anthony Stokes, and they're probably middle of the table." Who wants to be middle of the table and have to put up with troublemakers like Stokes?

We had to get rid of Stokes. The club was being damaged every day he was there.

Or something.

***Jim44*** · 30-01-2011 04:22 PM

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We had to get rid of Stokes. The club was being damaged every day he was there.Or something.

Thank God we're on the road to recovery.

**fatbloke** · 30-01-2011 04:24 PM

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We had to get rid of Stokes. The club was being damaged every day he was there.

Or something.

Disnae seem to harming the smellies.

***Baader*** · 30-01-2011 05:23 PM

The Stokes sale was utter nonsense. Why, if it was deemed he should go and Celtic had been sniffing around, did we then decide to sell him at practically the 11th hour on the last day of the transfer window? I know we brought in Duffy but surely this gave the manager limited options?

An appalling piece of business.

**chrisski33** · 30-01-2011 05:43 PM

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According to him, our number one problem is lack of a goalscorer. "Put in Anthony Stokes, and they're probably middle of the table." Who wants to be middle of the table and have to put up with troublemakers like Stokes?

id rather be mid table than getting relegated!

**GreenCastle** · 30-01-2011 05:47 PM

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id rather be mid table than getting relegated!

Nevin likes Hibs and wants us to do well.

Trouble maker or not - Stokes scored goals - something we haven't done for a while...

**CB_NO3** · 30-01-2011 05:53 PM

Its not rocket science guys. Stokes had an agreement with the club saying if a bigger club comes in for him, he should get the chance to talk to them. Thats what happened and the rest is history.

***Jim44*** · 30-01-2011 06:35 PM

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According to him, our number one problem is lack of a goalscorer. "Put in Anthony Stokes, and they're probably middle of the table." Who wants to be middle of the table and have to put up with troublemakers like Stokes?

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id rather be mid table than getting relegated!

I think the irony got lost somewhere, chrisski.

***Arch Stanton*** · 30-01-2011 06:51 PM

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I think the irony got lost somewhere, chrisski.

Not to worry chrisski, the irony was lost on me too.

However, having someone who could grab goals even if the team was playing crap is a mixed blessing in my book - especially when Stokes was still with us when our slump started last Feb.

**SMAXXA** · 30-01-2011 09:27 PM

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According to him, our number one problem is lack of a goalscorer. "Put in Anthony Stokes, and they're probably middle of the table." Who wants to be middle of the table and have to put up with troublemakers like Stokes?

I'd settle for that in a heart beat to be fair p.s pne player doesnt make a team

**ScottB** · 30-01-2011 09:34 PM

Let's not forget we had Stokes in the team for the second half of last season and we were still god awful.

I think our problems are far more than just the absence of any one player, as a collective group they have no confidence and no belief, in themselves or each other. The only solution for me is to try and replace as many of the starting 11 as we can before the window closes and hope the arrival of the new guys can carry us through until we can fully rebuild the side in the summer. I think there's no coming back for the vast majority of the players we had at the start of this season at the club, will be best for all involved for them to leave asap.

**~~New Corrie~~** · 30-01-2011 09:36 PM

What team does Pat support this week?

***HFC 0-7*** · 30-01-2011 09:39 PM

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Let's not forget we had Stokes in the team for the second half of last season and we were still god awful.

I think our problems are far more than just the absence of any one player, as a collective group they have no confidence and no belief, in themselves or each other. The only solution for me is to try and replace as many of the starting 11 as we can before the window closes and hope the arrival of the new guys can carry us through until we can fully rebuild the side in the summer. I think there's no coming back for the vast majority of the players we had at the start of this season at the club, will be best for all involved for them to leave asap.

I agree but getting rid of the top goalscorer when this is happening is a bad decision IMO. Yes we were getting beat and not playing well but we still managed to score goals. Now we are getting beat and not playing well and cant score goals. I good striker is what every team needs, even the Chelsea's, Man utd's and barcelona's play rank rotten, but for a good striker they get results.

**Shrekko** · 30-01-2011 09:40 PM

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What team does Pat support this week?

Hibs, but he's got a soft spot for Celtic. Just like the rest of us on here.

**HUTCHYHIBBY** · 30-01-2011 09:40 PM

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I'd settle for that in a heart beat to be fair p.s pne player doesnt make a team

What Preston player are we after? ;-)

Removed · 30-01-2011 09:41 PM

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Hibs, but he's got a soft spot for Celtic. Just like the rest of us on here.

Eh?

Hope that's either sarcasm, fishing or just cos it's a reply to Corrie Greens

**Shrekko** · 30-01-2011 09:42 PM

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Eh?

Hope that's either sarcasm or fishing cos I'm biting

That one was just for Corrie

Mainly sarcasm

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That one was just for Corrie

Mainly sarcasm

You were too quick, penny dropped and I edited

***J-C*** · 30-01-2011 09:46 PM

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What team does Pat support this week?

My lad sits beside him in the East, he goes because his son is Hibs daft, due to this he has a soft spot for us.

**~~New Corrie~~** · 30-01-2011 09:53 PM

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That one was just for Corrie

Mainly sarcasm

Only mainly?

**joebakerforever** · 30-01-2011 09:58 PM

Pat Nevin on the tv today reckoned that the main problem with Hibs, was not the succession of Managers we have had, but with the Board in continually not reinvesting a significant chunk of the transfer income we have received over recent times in the playing side.

OK a few crumbs were given to the various managers to recruit with and this resulted in quite a few duds being brought in.

But if you're expected to buy in Poundstretcher rather than Harvey Nick's what chance do you have of getting quality

**since90plustwo** · 30-01-2011 10:00 PM

Goals win you games and earn you points, we are creating a few chances atm but have noone to finish them off. i dont think we would be i this mess if stokes was here, true that one man doesnt make a team, but he scored a hell of alot important goals last year

***J-C*** · 30-01-2011 10:06 PM

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Pat Nevin on the tv today reckoned that the main problem with Hibs, was not the succession of Managers we have had, but with the Board in continually not reinvesting a significant chunk of the transfer income we have received over recent times in the playing side.

OK a few crumbs were given to the various managers to recruit with and this resulted in quite a few duds being brought in.

But if you're expected to buy in Poundstetcher rather than Harvey Nick's what chance do you have of getting quality

As was seen last year with Stokes, managed to get him for pennies but paid him a decent wage, only to be sold for £1m, reinvesting in an average Duffy and a worse Trakys.

**ScottB** · 30-01-2011 10:16 PM

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Pat Nevin on the tv today reckoned that the main problem with Hibs, was not the succession of Managers we have had, but with the Board in continually not reinvesting a significant chunk of the transfer income we have received over recent times in the playing side.

OK a few crumbs were given to the various managers to recruit with and this resulted in quite a few duds being brought in.

But if you're expected to buy in Poundstetcher rather than Harvey Nick's what chance do you have of getting quality

I think somewhere between he two. Successive managers have failed to spend their budget wisely, if it's true that we have spent £3million on players (and I don't see why it wouldn't be), the funds have clearly been there to secure decent quality players.

***basehibby*** · 30-01-2011 10:26 PM

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Pat Nevin on the tv today reckoned that the main problem with Hibs, was not the succession of Managers we have had, but with the Board in continually not reinvesting a significant chunk of the transfer income we have received over recent times in the playing side.

OK a few crumbs were given to the various managers to recruit with and this resulted in quite a few duds being brought in.

But if you're expected to buy in Poundstetcher rather than Harvey Nick's what chance do you have of getting quality

I agree with this POV. The policy of thrift in the transfer market - of consistently spending a fraction of transfer income on bolstering the squad - has been carried out too consistently for too long IMO.

What worries me most is that even in the midst of one of the worst runs of form in our club's history this trend shows no sign of abating. Stokes, Bamba and Zemama - three of our top performers regardless of issues with contracts or discipline - have all departed this season with fees of c £1.6M coming in the other direction. Thus far this window a fraction of that sum has been spent on boosting a playing squad and fan base deperately in need of a shot in the arm.

Worrying times indeed and I sincerely hope CC/RP have something up their sleeves to remedy this situation over the next 24 hours.

**Iain G** · 30-01-2011 11:15 PM

The fault with this reasoning is that we do have 2 (well) proven SPL goalscorers in Riordan and Nish, and neither of them are finding the back of the bleeding net!

What we need is a commanding no nonsense centre back and a big thumping great oak tree of a centreforward to batter the opposition and win the ball up for said goalscorers.

Oh and a winger who can cross a ball too would be nice

**sesoim** · 30-01-2011 11:24 PM

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Pat Nevin on the tv today reckoned that the main problem with Hibs, was not the succession of Managers we have had, but with the Board in continually not reinvesting a significant chunk of the transfer income we have received over recent times in the playing side.

OK a few crumbs were given to the various managers to recruit with and this resulted in quite a few duds being brought in.

But if you're expected to buy in Poundstetcher rather than Harvey Nick's what chance do you have of getting quality

The thing is, how much have all the other SPL teams outside of the Old Firm and Hearts paid in signing fees and wages over the last few years? Yes, we should have spent more money, especially when Stokes went, but we should still be doing a lot better than what we are with the budget we have. We should still be about 4th. The main reason we aren't is because our managers have been poor. And Petrie is to blame for appointing them.

***Kaiser1962*** · 31-01-2011 07:36 AM

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Its not rocket science guys. Stokes had an agreement with the club saying if a bigger club comes in for him, he should get the chance to talk to them. Thats what happened and the rest is history.

Dont let a trifling thing like this get in the way of a good Hibs-kicking session.