Riordan

**benrocky** · 02-01-2011 01:06 AM

I ask you all to put your thoughts and true feelings on line re RIORDAN

BECAUSE I HAVE HAD ENOUGH

1 he has no bottle re tackling
2 cannot dribble
3 has no upper body strength
4 has no speed
5 never on side re always offside
6 very lazy
7 thinks he is good
8 not a team player
9 never ever will be in SCOTLAND SQUAD
10 do we need him ?

***500miles*** · 02-01-2011 01:11 AM

I would like to point out, the OP is not an alternate account of mine.....

***dp00*** · 02-01-2011 01:12 AM

Originally Posted by benrocky

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I ask you all to put your thoughts and true feelings on line re RIORDAN

BECAUSE I HAVE HAD ENOUGH

1 he has no bottle re tackling - correct
2 cannot dribble - wrong
3 has no upper body strength - he is not a target man
4 has no speed - correct
5 never on side re always offside - gotta get involved first to be offside
6 very lazy - certainly today he was
7 thinks he is good - he is good , he just needs to put some effort in
8 not a team player - correct
9 never ever will be in SCOTLAND SQUAD - not while harry potter is there
10 do we need him ? Not sure

ive added my thoughts above however i do think riordan had the last derby on the back of his mind today....

**benrocky** · 02-01-2011 01:22 AM

Originally Posted by dp00

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ive added my thoughts above however i do think riordan had the last derby on the back of his mind today....

I do thing HIBS can suceed without him ie prove re game against RANGERS team played well

**~~Dunbar Hibee~~** · 02-01-2011 01:49 AM

The only thought I am adding is that you talk absolute *****.

**~~Toaods~~** · 02-01-2011 01:53 AM

Why should we care if Scotland choose not to select him?

**~~Dunbar Hibee~~** · 02-01-2011 01:54 AM

1 he has no bottle re tackling ... ask Skacel.
2 cannot dribble.. You on the wind up?
3 has no upper body strength.. Makes up for it with his top quality finishing.
4 has no speed .. Doesn't need it
5 never on side re always offside...

6 very lazy ... yeah 101 Hibs goals lazy bassa..
]7 thinks he is good 101 Hibs goals proves him right.
8 not a team player

that is all.
9 never ever will be in SCOTLAND SQUAD ....Because of Levein
10 do we need him ? [B] In one word...... YES.

**ForeverHibs93** · 02-01-2011 02:23 AM

Originally Posted by Dunbar Hibee

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1 he has no bottle re tackling ... ask Skacel.
2 cannot dribble.. You on the wind up?
3 has no upper body strength.. Makes up for it with his top quality finishing.
4 has no speed .. Doesn't need it
5 never on side re always offside...

6 very lazy ... yeah 101 Hibs goals lazy bassa..
]7 thinks he is good 101 Hibs goals proves him right.
8 not a team player

that is all.
9 never ever will be in SCOTLAND SQUAD ....Because of Levein
10 do we need him ? [B] In one word...... YES.

Do you have your Riordan specks on

Only kidding, I agree with most of this except he could do with pace, he gets outpaced far too often, and he isn't the best team player but nor is he the worst

**Cabbage1875** · 02-01-2011 02:27 AM

In general play he does not do nearly enough.

But with his free kicks (deliveries and shots on goal) and instinctive finishing we cannot do without him.

I do agree however, he will never make it in any other league apart from the SPL.

I would also like to add the disclaimer that I love Derek playing for Hibs, but he could do so much more in my view.

**seanraff07** · 02-01-2011 02:28 AM

Originally Posted by greg_hibee

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Do you have your Riordan specks on

Only kidding, I agree with most of this except he could do with pace, he gets outpaced far too often, and he isn't the best team player but nor is he the worst

That's why we need him right up top unlike today where he was played out wide cause hardly ever can he get the ball on the wing and get past a player and whip in a great cross, it should be him in the 6 yard box getting on the end of deliveries.

**son of haggart** · 02-01-2011 06:20 AM

From a Hearts fan perspective

Originally Posted by benrocky

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I ask you all to put your thoughts and true feelings on line re RIORDAN

BECAUSE I HAVE HAD ENOUGH

1 he has no bottle re tackling correct but neither do many other wing forwards
2 cannot dribblepartially correct - rarely goes for the option to take it past a man - perhaps due to pace
3 has no upper body strengthnot sure - can't recall him being brushed off the ball too much
4 has no speed incorrect, but doesn't have enoughh speed for the very top grade
5 never on side re always offsidenot correct
6 very lazyno correct, but can fall out of a game - ? concentration ?style ofplay of Hibs team
7 thinks he is goodhe is good
8 not a team playerhis cross field pass yesterday suggests he is
9 never ever will be in SCOTLAND SQUADlack of pace and past attitude/ discipline issues outside football are issues - Levein is big on these in his teams - freezes players out who don't 'look after themselves' Still possible he would get in squad I believe
10 do we need him ?you certainly do - his goals are all that are keeping you away from the bottom

Incidentally in my 'happy new year' discussion with my slightly pished brother on his way back from the game the two players he picked out as above par for Hibs were Brown and Riordan who was 'always dangerous when he had the ball' - while that might not be enntirely accurate it dfoes reflect the way opposition fans (and probably players) feel playing against him.

**~~sunshine1875~~** · 02-01-2011 06:48 AM

Riordan is IMO the best goalscorer we have had for many a year. He can score goals that others cannot even in their dreams score. Give him an opportunity, he will score.

My last point is the key - give him the opportunity i.e. he cannot do it all by himself.

Riordan is not the problem at the moment. He is trying a lot harder than in the past, but he cannot do it all by himself. He needs better players behind him and alongside him.

Riordan will always be rated as one of the best Hibs players that we have had over the last forty years. It must be killing him to see how bad we are at this moment in time.

***matty_f*** · 02-01-2011 06:59 AM

What you get with Riordan is a valuable commodity - goals. He's not an all-rounder, but he generally doesn't need to be. Riordan gives you a goal from nowhere, and a genuine threat at set-pieces.

I suppose the issue comes in games where you need more than someone who could get you a goal out of nothing.

Is it better to have that, than to have someone who maybe isn't as prolific themselves, but is capable of creating chances so that you're not relying on a goal out of nothing? Is it better to have someone that provides a better first line of defence before the opposition are getting to our midfield?

I don't know if it is. I love watching Riordan, he's one of the very few players in the SPL that can leave you amazed by a moment of sublime skill. I think there should always be room in the side for someone like Deek. If it means that someone else has to be brought in to do more of the dirty work alongside him, then so be it.

**Forza Fred** · 02-01-2011 07:05 AM

Deeks is like any player, in the side until a better player comes along to take his place.

It WILL eventually happen one day, due to age, injury or whatever..or even transfer.

At the moment I don't see any candidates making him sweat for a starting position.

**Deek01** · 02-01-2011 07:11 AM

It's as simple as too right we need him. Where would we be without his goals this season ?, who else in the team looks capable of scoring?..If he was to leave now Hibs would be worse for it.

I can't think of a player in the team yesterday capable of having the vision to deliver the pass that he did for Nish, lazy he might be but a quality player he certainly is.

**~~sunshine1875~~** · 02-01-2011 07:13 AM

SPL Goalscorers this season:

Riordan - 8
Miller - 3
Hanlon -2
Hogg - 2
Bamba - 2
Nish - 1
Stokes - 1
Rankin - 1
Dickoh - 1

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***blackpoolhibs*** · 02-01-2011 07:54 AM

Originally Posted by benrocky

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I ask you all to put your thoughts and true feelings on line re RIORDAN

BECAUSE I HAVE HAD ENOUGH

1 he has no bottle re tackling
2 cannot dribble
3 has no upper body strength
4 has no speed
5 never on side re always offside
6 very lazy
7 thinks he is good
8 not a team player
9 never ever will be in SCOTLAND SQUAD
10 do we need him ?

You are right, we need to punt him and get another donkey up front, someone who will work his nuts off and give us 6-8 goals a season.

***Jack*** · 02-01-2011 08:02 AM

REOPEN THREAD.
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I'm not Deeks biggest fan but while we are celebrating one of our own scoring 100+ goals for our club I think the OP is reaching new depths of negativity and quite shameful.
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How any Hibs fan could come up with such dubious evidence to back their claims show a total lack of understanding of the player and the game itself.

**hibsbollah** · 02-01-2011 08:03 AM

Riordan annoyed me no end yesterday, but still managed that superb cross field ball to give Nish his chance, which he ****ed up.

In a matter of seconds, showed the difference between the quality and the mediocrity in our side.

***blackpoolhibs*** · 02-01-2011 08:11 AM

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REOPEN THREAD.
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I'm not Deeks biggest fan but while we are celebrating one of our own scoring 100+ goals for our club I think the OP is reaching new depths of negativity and quite shameful.
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How any Hibs fan could come up with such dubious evidence to back their claims show a total lack of understanding of the player and the game itself.

Originally Posted by hibsbollah

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Riordan annoyed me no end yesterday, but still managed that superb cross field ball to give Nish his chance, which he ****ed up.

In a matter of seconds, showed the difference between the quality and the mediocrity in our side.

Nail hit firmly on head. Some folk are just not watching the same game as me imo. They would rather fill the team with rankins and De Graffs, than genuine quality. Yes we need workers, players who can win the battles, but FFS we need quality to open up the opposition, we need quality to create, and Riordan does that, not Nish, not Trakys, but Riordan.

**alfieboi75** · 02-01-2011 08:21 AM

Time for Reeks tae go! Next player please.........

**Beefster** · 02-01-2011 08:22 AM

If Deeko goes, I'm going to protest by not buying a steak pie at ER for a season. I'll stick to pizza slices.

That'll teach Rodders to save money.

**~~The Voice Of Reason~~** · 02-01-2011 08:41 AM

I can't comment on yesterday's game cos I never saw it.

I can comment on the OP though. She enjoys winding us up and IMHO is a Yam.

Don't rise to her bait gentlemen.

***blackpoolhibs*** · 02-01-2011 08:47 AM

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Time for Reeks tae go! Next player please.........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCjEsN4E85s

**~~ronaldo7~~** · 02-01-2011 08:54 AM

Originally Posted by benrocky

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I ask you all to put your thoughts and true feelings on line re RIORDAN

BECAUSE I HAVE HAD ENOUGH

1 he has no bottle re tackling
2 cannot dribble
3 has no upper body strength
4 has no speed
5 never on side re always offside
6 very lazy
7 thinks he is good
8 not a team player
9 never ever will be in SCOTLAND SQUAD
10 do we need him ?

That is all

***BroxburnHibee*** · 02-01-2011 08:56 AM

Yep...................

We've blamed every other part of the club for our current position so its obvious Deek was gonna get it at some point.

***s.a.m*** · 02-01-2011 08:59 AM

Why does he have to be every type of forward player rolled into one? We don't expect that of any other position (or player). Surely that's why you have a squad? There are a number of things that have frustrated me about Riordan during his two spells at Hibs, but he's extremely good at what he does do, and he's worked hard at upping his contribution to the team effort. He even seems to have reduced the on-field moaning. At the moment, while our team is largely made up of limited journeymen - some hard-working, some even lazier than Riordan is considered to be - he is one of the few pieces of quality that we have to watch.

***Danderhall Hibs*** · 02-01-2011 09:00 AM

Originally Posted by benrocky

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i ask you all to put your thoughts and true feelings on line re riordan

because i have had enough

1 he has no bottle re tackling
2 cannot dribble
3 has no upper body strength
4 has no speed
5 never on side re always offside
6 very lazy
7 thinks he is good
8 not a team player
9 never ever will be in scotland squad
10 do we need him ?

ffs.

**Ollie Reed** · 02-01-2011 09:20 AM

Originally Posted by benrocky

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I ask you all to put your thoughts and true feelings on line re RIORDAN

BECAUSE I HAVE HAD ENOUGH

1 he has no bottle re tackling
2 cannot dribble
3 has no upper body strength
4 has no speed
5 never on side re always offside
6 very lazy
7 thinks he is good
8 not a team player
9 never ever will be in SCOTLAND SQUAD
10 do we need him ?

Aye, okay then.