First of all I have to say that there is very, very real chance that we could be going down this year. We are that bad.
But, if we do, I think it could just be the best thing to happen to us long term.
Rod Petrie and STF need a pretty big wake up call IMHO because we have been drifting towards the rocks for a year now. I believe we need fundamental change at Easter Road and relegation could just bring it all about. Petrie has been good for the club but has overstayed his welcome and it is time for him to move on, I believe that he wields far to much influence over everything that goes on at the club. There must be somebody out there who can now move us on as a football club, not just a business.
I also think that Calderwood should go if we do go down. I know these are not his players, but he just does not come accross as a manager who can inspire anyone. He is dull, methodical and boring. Even the worst of managers can usually cajole some kind of positive reaction out of a squad when they first arrive, but - apart from Ibrox - we are as bloody awful as we ever were under Yogi and Mixu.
The SPL is boring beyond belief now and IMHO will only get even worse with a ten team league playing each other four times a season. The only thing that can ever relieve this would be the creation of some kind of entry into a British League - and that is obviously something that is a long, long way off.
With the correct blend of youngsters and bought in experience (the only, and I mean only player out of the current lot at ER I want to keep is Derek Riordan), we can start again in Division One, hopefully coming back in one season and without losing too much cash in the process.
I know am a just sad git who would watch Hibs if they were in the East of Scotland League, but at this moment in time I think we need to take a step back to move forward as a football club - which is , after all, what we are.
I am saying this, not because I want us to be relegated. I just feel that we should look upon it as an opportunity to get a large number of things sorted and bouce back stronger.
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Thread: If We Go Down.........,
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28-12-2010 11:01 AM #1
If We Go Down.........,
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28-12-2010 11:20 AM #2
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I don't think it would be the best thing to happen. Bit different from the last time in that we have substantial repayments to make on the stadium. Rod said we needed the stadium to be more highly occupied on match days and we arent getting that just now. If we went down the cost per seat would be lower as the gate money in the 1st is cheaper. Wouldn't have any tv money either. We would then need to overhaul the playing staff as this bunch of clowns couldn't get us out the 1st.
We seriously need to avoid relegation at whatever cost.
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28-12-2010 12:12 PM #3This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I most certainly do not want my club galvanising as you put it Young Sahib by way of a severe ramming by the Yams.
Woke up the last few nights screaming no ,no,no as the eighth goes in.
It was the topic of conversation in a few drinking establishments I visited for some liquid forgetfulness after our latest performance .
My nightmare starts as the team is read out over the tannoy , 7 names to put fear and anguish ,and a nappy on any Hibby
Hogg, Grounds,Harte ,Nish Rankin, Miller ,De Graaf
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Given we are in a huge economis recesson, perhaps you could tell us, who would be better for Hibs than STF and RP, and give us a list of potential buyers ?
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28-12-2010 12:52 PM #6This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Agree ! Totally pathetic for all the reasons you give .
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28-12-2010 01:26 PM #7This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I don't have a list of potential buyers, smartarse.
And please give us a detailed resume of why it is a riduculous post?
Wake up and smell the coffee.
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28-12-2010 01:28 PM #8This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Hardly an erudite and thought out response.......,
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28-12-2010 02:20 PM #13
We should all gang together and make a seriously worded thread on a forum which has a major influence on the decision making at Easter Road.
Pfffrrrt
that'll teach them
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28-12-2010 02:27 PM #15
I think that it's a very valid point that Rod Petrie and the current board should be replaced. Nothing about potential buyers or STF selling up but the time is now for there to be a major shift in the direction that the club wants to go and how it goes about it.
Is that a crime to suggest that we say our thanks to Rod and ask him to pass the baton on but please not to the uninspiring nice guy Scott Lindsay.
Can we have someone with some passion to lead from the very top please, we've had 10 years of the grey safe pair of hands.
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28-12-2010 02:30 PM #16
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With respect the use of that word hardly fits fits your original post
It comes accross very much as a knee jerk reaction
You say
"Petrie has been good for the club but has overstayed his welcome and it is time for him to move on, I believe that he wields far to much influence over everything that goes on at the club. There must be somebody out there who can now move us on as a football club, not just a business."
Given the present financial climate why would we want to see the back of the two pwople
( STF/RP) who have brought this club on to a sound financial footing , plus looking at ffootball clubs of a similar size as HFC where is this "white knighr" coming from ?
This has a lot more to do with
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The ability of succesive manager's to use the resources they have been given in a proper manner.
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A certain manager who lacked the basic man management skills to take the club forward .
Than simply blaming the financial side of things.
There are clubs with less resources than HFC through a decent mangement team are holding there own
As I say smacks of a knee jerk
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28-12-2010 02:52 PM #20
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28-12-2010 03:43 PM #21
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Going down would a disaster for Hibs. Even this shower will do enough to keep us in the league. Hamilton are awful as are St mirren and St Johnstone. I do agree we need to rid the team of the crap that is there just now. I would keep Brown, Bamba, Miller, Deeks , Trakis. The rest can go. Im not saying that some of the ones I would keep are blameless with their performances this season but they would give us a chance to build on something.
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28-12-2010 03:48 PM #22
Survival this season is the priority, the only priority. The club is playing the price for a flawed approach encapsulated by the determination not to replace quality with quality. To remedy this there must be immediate investment in players of the highest quality. The future of the club cannot be rested upon the shoulders of a group of players who as a unit have failed. Failure to address this by the manager or the board is nothing short of negligence. The price of failure will be relegation and the cost of this will be much greater than a million pound investment now.
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29-12-2010 07:33 AM #24
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Relegation would be an utter disaster for us - especially having just upgraded the stadium. My hope is that RP et al will have learned their lesson from about 10 years back and will sanction sufficient signings over the next month so as not to allow relegation to become a serious possibility.
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29-12-2010 08:09 AM #25
The threat of relegation is indeed a reality
our form away is abysmal,, our home form not
much better!!!!
I'm sure the year we did get relegated , we still paid
Premier league season ticket prices, I may be
wrong on this, others can confirm/debunk
We did have a large following then,, if it happens
this time,, we will lose a lot of die-hards
RP must help CC in any way possible
What I don't get though is,, will we not
Be in the same situation in say 2 years time
When all new players will have been signed
At either jan/ summer,, there contracts will be
coming to an end at the same time????
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29-12-2010 02:28 PM #27
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Since relagation 12/13 years ago the change with Hibernian off the park to today in 2010 is remarkable, compared to what the play is like well looks like we are not as far away from that as we should.
The football side of things has been treated as a side act compared to ott traing center and other matters, relegation will not help, the fact it is being discussed shows how badly the football side has been treated.
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29-12-2010 02:53 PM #28
Similar to the Miller situation, it's easy to say that we'd be better off without Petrie at the helm. Petrie has steered the club through many a choppy water most notably the satellite tv deal collapse.
I firmly believe that now we have steadied the ship, improved the stadium and training facilities he needs to clear his desk and review his fiscal policies. The club set out the season on the crest of a wave, new stand and a run in Europe on the back of the good league placing last year. Petrie will have entered this season confident that whilst the player budget had it's constraints would have been fit for purpose to build on last seasons progress. Unfortunately however our performance was not consistant with last season, well it matched the end but not the result. We have now had to once again provide a managerial casualty with a compensation package, coupled with a large squad which for the most part of the 16 should be allowed to move on (except Bamba, Miller, Riordan which we may not have any say).
Petrie's fruegal policy has remained intact as we staved off debt and developed our infrastructure however if we cannot afford to improve our team in the short term it's going to be a darn side harder to afford it in the longer term. We simply cannot afford to hit the 1st Division we could possibly pay a bit more than most of the 1st Div gates may improve but advertising would be massively down compared to what most consider poor fare in the SPL. Paying more to these players in a time of more difficult circumstances would be far worse than doing it now with the finances available to us. How could we entice better players to the 1st Div and how could we pay for them?
I don't agree that 1st Division is the answer, I don't agree that Petrie should not be in charge, however I do agree that he needs to review the boards stance now while there is a window and we can do something constructive about the situation. They reviewed Hughes position, they need to review their own.
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29-12-2010 10:08 PM #29
The only thing wrong with the way this club is run is that Petrie is focking awful at appointing managers.
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30-12-2010 04:57 AM #30
Tonight I thought Hibs turned the corner most of the problems on the bench ,bar 2 playing Hart and Nid didnt do us any favours
If he can drop Hogg for making a James of it Harts next for the chop , Nid maybe in a different roll but TBH I think his best isnt good enough anymore sad to say .
The Wee fella back and Duffy made Hibs look a different side a couple of signings in Jan and we are sorted I dont know what all the fuss is about
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