Jambos v Perth Saints cup tie

[thebakerboy]

Hearts are not opening the Wheatfield stand for this match because St Johnston do not wish to cut prices for match.This means that ST holders cannot book their normal seat for game and attendance is therefore limited , seems to me they are cutting off their nose to spite their face. Typical Jambo logic beats me!!!!!!!!!

[Frazerbob]

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Hearts are not opening the Wheatfield stand for this match because St Johnston do not wish to cut prices for match.This means that ST holders cannot book their normal seat for game and attendance is therefore limited , seems to me they are cutting off their nose to spite their face. Typical Jambo logic beats me!!!!!!!!!

I thought that they'd be moving the game to Murryfield due to their huge fan base and "special relationship" with the big cup!

[Barney McGrew]

I don't remember them being quite so worried about the prices supporters had to pay when they fleeced us £33 to sit in the Roseburn Stand a few seasons ago.

[Part/Time Supporter]

http://www.heartsfc.co.uk/articles/2...241384_2235685

Why should they charge reduced prices? It's a BIG cup tie between two SPL teams.

[NadeAteMyLunch!]

That will be St.Johnstone hated for ever more, like St.Mirren, or St.Liedown or whatever they STILL call them 24 yrs after they made an absolute Noel Hunt of things in Dundee

[CropleyWasGod]

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That will be St.Johnstone hated for ever more, like St.Mirren, or St.Liedown or whatever they STILL call them 24 yrs after they made an absolute Noel Hunt of things in Dundee

Dundee?

[WindyMiller]

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Dundee?

I've heard something big happened back in '86 in Dundee.

I think maybe Hertz won the Double? Or something.

[Diclonius]

They having a wee temper tantrum?

Classless as per usual.

[Speedy]

"the first time in living memory"

WTF are they all about? They're closing the stand to prevent them operating at a loss, it's embarrassing.

[Toaods]

May be a bit of RUSSIAN Roulette with the Saintees board but I'm sure the SFA will be pleased to hear their fair share (1/3?) will be reduced.

[poolman]

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http://www.heartsfc.co.uk/articles/2...241384_2235685

Why should they charge reduced prices? It's a BIG cup tie between two SPL teams.

Yams and "Platinum Zone"

Canny think of a smilie for that one

[Springbank]

400,000 reasons to be cheerful

Love stories like this - it does make the Big Team boast look a bit like the Tallest Dwarf

[Springbank]

Meant to add, whoever released this article (Fedotovas) will do very well for himself in Team Romanov

He's clearly remembered Rule Number One of Team Romanov : It is ALWAYS someone else's fault

He's done well to pin this one on fellow SPL makeweights St Johnstone.
His reward awaits in Kaunas, no doubt.

[Phil D. Rolls]

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That will be St.Johnstone hated for ever more, like St.Mirren, or St.Liedown or whatever they STILL call them 24 yrs after they made an absolute Noel Hunt of things in Dundee

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Dundee?

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I've heard something big happened back in '86 in Dundee.

I think maybe Hertz won the Double? Or something.

Can anybody throw some light on this subject, it just won't go away.

[Twa Cairpets]

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"the first time in living memory"

WTF are they all about? They're closing the stand to prevent them operating at a loss, it's embarrassing.

Not only the first time in living memory, but the first time "a fellow SPL team has forced this rule". wow.

But hold on a minute. How old is the SPL? Twelve years?

So, its either the first time ever, or they have very short memories, or they're using unecessary hyperbole to cover the p!sh their spouting and work the massed 400,000 up into righteous fury.

I can see a very strongly worded open letter coming, I tell you.

[poolman]

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Can anybody throw some light on this subject, it just won't go away.

That reminds me

Did they ever get that lightbulb changed in the Wheatfield stand

[Part/Time Supporter]

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Not only the first time in living memory, but the first time "a fellow SPL team has forced this rule". wow.

But hold on a minute. How old is the SPL? Twelve years?

So, its either the first time ever, or they have very short memories, or they're using unecessary hyperbole to cover the p!sh their spouting and work the massed 400,000 up into righteous fury.

I can see a very strongly worded open letter coming, I tell you.

It also ignores the fact that most times two SPL teams draw each other in the cup, both clubs will be happy to charge the normal full price.

[Danderhall Hibs]

So Hearts wanted to reduce prices, aren’t allowed to and have closed the Wheatfield?

Obviously St Johnstone want to get as much money as they can from the game but what do Hearts gain by closing one of the stands? Is it a saving on reduced security and other staff (turnstiles, pie counter lassies etc)?

[Geo_1875]

They're just worried that everyone will find out how loyal the 400,000 are when they have to pay full price for a ticket.

[Danderhall Hibs]

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Not only the first time in living memory, but the first time "a fellow SPL team has forced this rule". wow.

But hold on a minute. How old is the SPL? Twelve years?

I didn't read it like that - I thought they said another "Premier League team" - not just going back to when it was changed to the SPL.

If they do mean SPL it's definitely a use of words that the pro-Nish lobby would be happy with!

[Twa Cairpets]

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I didn't read it like that - I thought they said another "Premier League team" - not just going back to when it was changed to the SPL.

If they do mean SPL it's definitely a use of words that the pro-Nish lobby would be happy with!

"This is the first time in living memory that a fellow Clydesdale Bank Premier League Club has forced this rule"

As written above.

It's either badly written or a deliberate extra dig at St J.

Either way it classless.

(But at least they're not having a pop at refs...)

[Woody1985]

Am I missing something here?

It looks to me like hearts are trying to do a good thing by reducing ticket prices for a game, something that Scottish football is continually slated for by fans, then they get it tight for showing a stance against the higher price by closing a stand. Regardless of their motive, wouldn't it be great if all clubs started to give the fans a break?

[Keith_M]

I'm genuinely confused by what closing the stand has got to do with the pricing.





Could somebody possibly explain the reasoning behind it, because it escapes me.

[Part/Time Supporter]

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I'm genuinely confused by what closing the stand has got to do with the pricing.





Could somebody possibly explain the reasoning behind it, because it escapes me.

Hertz have more variable pricing than most other clubs in the league, with the middle of the Wheatfield ("platinum") being the most expensive.

[Hibbyradge]

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So Hearts wanted to reduce prices, aren’t allowed to and have closed the Wheatfield?

Obviously St Johnstone want to get as much money as they can from the game but what do Hearts gain by closing one of the stands? Is it a saving on reduced security and other staff (turnstiles, pie counter lassies etc)?

[Keith_M]

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Hertz have more variable pricing than most other clubs in the league, with the middle of the Wheatfield ("platinum") being the most expensive.

Cheers.


So, basically, Hearts are trying to ensure the StJ don't get any more money than they would have with all stands open and reduced prices, purely to 'teach them a lesson'? If that's the case, and I can't see any other reasoning, it's petty beyond belief.

If they really wanted to both make a point and reward their loyal fans, why not just make STs valid, or at least discounted tickets, for this game.

FWIW, I'm all for the principle of reducing prices to encourage attendance and a little disappointed at StJs stand on this as well.

[timebomb]

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Am I missing something here?

It looks to me like hearts are trying to do a good thing by reducing ticket prices for a game, something that Scottish football is continually slated for by fans, then they get it tight for showing a stance against the higher price by closing a stand. Regardless of their motive, wouldn't it be great if all clubs started to give the fans a break?

I agree with you 100% and to an extent with Hearts stance.

What I would have done was move 'the away end' to the middle of the Wheatfield and charge all the Saints fans full whack and moved the Hearts fans to the cheaper seats behind the goals.

I'd have been interested to see what the Saints chaiman would have said about that.

[Hibbyradge]

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I agree with you 100% and to an extent with Hearts stance.

What I would have done was move 'the away end' to the middle of the Wheatfield and charge all the Saints fans full whack and moved the Hearts fans to the cheaper seats behind the goals.

I'd have been interested to see what the Saints chaiman would have said about that.

Aye. Take it out on the innocent fans.

Nice.

[The Harp]

What's the chances of the Yams disclosing in the press, as the date for the tie approaches, that the demand for tickets is so phenomenal that they have no choice but to open all parts of the stadium? Another publicity stunt?

[Twa Cairpets]

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I agree with you 100% and to an extent with Hearts stance.

What I would have done was move 'the away end' to the middle of the Wheatfield and charge all the Saints fans full whack and moved the Hearts fans to the cheaper seats behind the goals.

I'd have been interested to see what the Saints chaiman would have said about that.

Simple economics from the super Saintees.

Assume, say, 10,000 yams turn up regardless of ticket price, and 1000 come from Perth, all pay on average £20 quid at full whack = £220,000 gate receipts.

If you reduce the tickets to £15 quid, you need to attract an extra 3,666 people to generate the same income. Will that many people really decide to come for the sake of £5 reduction? If you half the price to an average of a tenner, the gate receipts become £174,200 on the assumption every seat is sold.

You're ST Johnstone, which route do you choose? A half empty stadium making you more money or a hostile full stadium making you less.

Given ther share will probably not be paid to them for months either, it's a no brainer if you ask me, and by the way I'd back a team doing it to Hibs as well.