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    Usual pish, likes what he saw.

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    I see from that link Aberdeen had 4 efforts on target!

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    Good to hear the manager has his 2 feet firmly on the ground - the amount of drivel written on here this afternoon is unbelievable.

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    Given the length of time he seemed to have kept them in the dressing room, I can't think he was so forgiving in there.

    And that's where it matters.

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    Right enough, people frustrated at 8 months (at least) of watching that cack, or as you say drivel!

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    We just need to get better. You said it, CC!

    Hard for him. He's got a bit to go before he can start to build his side and he's got to get on with these guys till then.

    You can sense the disappointment in his voice, although something tells me it would take a calamity of Norman Wisdom standards to get him expressing strong emotion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heretoday View Post
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    We just need to get better. You said it, CC!

    Hard for him. He's got a bit to go before he can start to build his side and he's got to get on with these guys till then.

    You can sense the disappointment in his voice, although something tells me it would take a calamity of Norman Wisdom standards to get him expressing strong emotion.
    From what I have read about him, he may come across as quiet and self-effacing, but he is a steely character who knows what he wants, I don't think anyone in the dressing room will wait too long to hear his opinion and what he expects. I hope and expect that the "It's not business as usual" signs will appear at East Mains soon!
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    Don't really know what to make of that. I agree in the sense that we need more unity about the squad and we do need to get better but I really don't think the team deserve any praise at all today.

    We certainley didn't show character (or words to that effect) by keeping going after being four down.

    We showed sheer incompetence in losing the four goals and I'd expect a former defender to be a bit more critical IMO.

    Hart on the Right, Murray on the Left and a centre of Hogg/Bamba and Hanlon should be much better - OK, not brilliant but better than having four CB's that didn't keep thier shape at all when defending today.

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    some of these guys are supposed to be professional footballers and some even have international honours. hopefully we've now got a coach that can teach them how do the easy thing right. Like defend.
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    First time I've heard him talk and have to say I'm disappointed. Yes, he's got a hell of a job to do and Yes, he will be give the time and support to get it done. But this was just the same sort of guff we got from Hughes week after week - very little substance, ideas, detail, passion or clear strategy about how we're going to turn this crap around. I can only hope and pray that he's much more astute, articulate and clear thinking when it comes to sorting out this mess.

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    He said that he had a great squad of players with the right mindset and was then immediately contradicted by John Robertson, I think it was, who said he was wrong about the players' mindset and that he had massive dressing room problems to solve. I don't like to admit it but I think Robertson was nearer the truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EasterRoad4Ever View Post
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    First time I've heard him talk and have to say I'm disappointed. Yes, he's got a hell of a job to do and Yes, he will be give the time and support to get it done. But this was just the same sort of guff we got from Hughes week after week - very little substance, ideas, detail, passion or clear strategy about how we're going to turn this crap around. I can only hope and pray that he's much more astute, articulate and clear thinking when it comes to sorting out this mess.
    Hughes lacked many things, but I don't think you can get away with stating that passion was one....

    Calderwood is hardly likely to share his strategy in a post-match interview, I game in, having been defeated 4-2!

    Give the guy a chance....

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    Calderwood has just gotten the job he doesn't want to be getting on RP's bad side by bad mouthing the squad putting down their already low confidence no matter how pish they are. Give him a break

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    One game, 1st interview and some fans have already given up on him. Sometimes I wonder if the cack we have to put up with is what we deserve.

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    He said that he had a great squad of players with the right mindset and was then immediately contradicted by John Robertson, I think it was, who said he was wrong about the players' mindset and that he had massive dressing room problems to solve. I don't like to admit it but I think Robertson was nearer the truth.
    I would tend to agree with you there Jim44, but he also emphasised in his interview the 4-0 before we got 2 goals. He's got a big job ahead of him, but sadly we might not see the true worth of CC until the winter transfer window, and that's still a good way away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Green Goblin View Post
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    One game, 1st interview and some fans have already given up on him. Sometimes I wonder if the cack we have to put up with is what we deserve.

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    Who has given up on him?

    I think that people are just annoyed and a bit diasppointed that he didn't have more to say after such an inept performance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dinkydoo View Post
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    Who has given up on him?

    I think that people are just annoyed and a bit diasppointed that he didn't have more to say after such an inept performance.
    But what do you want the guy to say? Should he have come out in his first interview saying that Hibs were crap and he felt like cutting his wrists in despair? Is that really what people expected him to do? From many comments on here, it seems they did. And what would that achieve exactly? Would it make things any better, or worse? How would that help him and the club between now and the next transfer window? It wouldn`t - it would only make a bad situation unravel even further.

    Only an idiot would fail to see the problems throughout the squad, and from what I have read about him, he is no fool. As frustrated as we are as fans, we also have to give the guy a chance, and some people are jumping to say they have doubts about him already, based on his comments after his first game in charge. That`s not good enough on the part of the fans who are saying/writing such things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EasterRoad4Ever View Post
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    First time I've heard him talk and have to say I'm disappointed. Yes, he's got a hell of a job to do and Yes, he will be give the time and support to get it done. But this was just the same sort of guff we got from Hughes week after week - very little substance, ideas, detail, passion or clear strategy about how we're going to turn this crap around. I can only hope and pray that he's much more astute, articulate and clear thinking when it comes to sorting out this mess.
    I don't want to come across as nippy or agressive but what did you want the guy to say?
    I doubt very much that any Manager goes out to an after match interview and says exactly what he really means.
    Slating the players publicly might sound like a good idea but the only chance he has is to convince them that he knows what he is doing and he hasn't lost the plot.
    CC is not a novice; let's see what happens next week, but bear in mind that these players are starting to get a reputation for being chicken hearted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EasterRoad4Ever View Post
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    First time I've heard him talk and have to say I'm disappointed. Yes, he's got a hell of a job to do and Yes, he will be give the time and support to get it done. But this was just the same sort of guff we got from Hughes week after week - very little substance, ideas, detail, passion or clear strategy about how we're going to turn this crap around. I can only hope and pray that he's much more astute, articulate and clear thinking when it comes to sorting out this mess.
    I don't know what we are all expecting, but i think I would be more worried if after a few days on the training pitch and one game in charge, he gave a post match interview slating everyone. That game will give him an idea of what needs changed. He will have a plan

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    It's threads like this that make me more and more demoralised and frustrated with football in general these days, never mind hibs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Green Goblin View Post
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    But what do you want the guy to say?

    Should he have come out in his first interview saying that Hibs were crap and he felt like cutting his wrists in despair? Is that really what people expected him to do? From many comments on here, it seems they did. And what would that achieve exactly? Would it make things any better, or worse? How would that help him and the club between now and the next transfer window? It wouldn`t - it would only make a bad situation unravel even further.
    Post match comments are neither here nor there but there is a heightened expectancy after a Manager's first game in charge about what he's going to say. How does he feel about what he's seen? I'd have been happier had he said something like:

    "We've let in some very poor goals today and defensively we were awful at times. Credit to the boys for keeping on going after being 4 goals down, but we should not have been there in the first place.

    It's early days yet for me at this club and at this stage every match, every training session is part of my learning curve as to what I have in the squad here. I can already see a few changes that I'll be making for the next match.

    I understand that the fans will be disappointed but hope that they will recognise that this will take some time and stick with us during this process."

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    I think he is just bringing the positives to the media, or at least some of them. I am 100% certain that he will not shy away from telling the players that our performance today was simply not good enough... I wouldn't be surprised if the players are in for training tomorrow.

    First performance, first poor display, but ultimately I am still hopeful that CC will sort this out, starting with that back four.

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    Everyone who found fault with everything Hughes said happier with this one?

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    Everyone who found fault with everything Hughes said happier with this one?
    When he said he was happy with what he saw, i nearly shat myself laughing. I am not going to believe anything, or take any notice either way with what he says. Its pointless, they are contracted to lie through their teeth, and never say what they are thinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy74 View Post
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    Everyone who found fault with everything Hughes said happier with this one?
    Well we didn't hear that all we needed was 'our luck to turn'.

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    I think he is just bringing the positives to the media, or at least some of them. I am 100% certain that he will not shy away from telling the players that our performance today was simply not good enough... I wouldn't be surprised if the players are in for training tomorrow.

    First performance, first poor display, but ultimately I am still hopeful that CC will sort this out, starting with that back four.
    That is how it should be and he is free to come his own conclusions about the worth of various players.
    Let's face it, even if he thought they were all crap what is the point of bringing them down further by telling them that. It would maybe cheer up most supporters to slag players off to their faces but that is not his job. He has to get the best out of them until he can get better.
    I was greatly encouraged by that interview. He is the first manager since Mowbray to give me the impression that he understands what went wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BEEJ View Post
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    Post match comments are neither here nor there but there is a heightened expectancy after a Manager's first game in charge about what he's going to say. How does he feel about what he's seen? I'd have been happier had he said something like: etc......
    But that`s just it, that`s exactly what I`m talking about Beej. One game, first 2 or 3 minute interview after being at the club for a few days and you want the word perfect response. You`re never going to get it. Why should he show his hand so soon? And is he even in a position to make judgement calls about the best way forward after almost no time here?

    I want to hear the right things too, but more than that, I want him to take a bit of time and make sure he gets it right. So, we agree about the interview being neither here nor there, but it`s what he does over the next few months that matters. For fans to make any kind of judgements on the man or his abilities after the first post-match interview is just being silly imho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Green Goblin View Post
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    But that`s just it, that`s exactly what I`m talking about Beej. One game, first 2 or 3 minute interview after being at the club for a few days and you want the word perfect response. You`re never going to get it. Why should he show his hand so soon? And is he even in a position to make judgement calls about the best way forward after almost no time here?

    I want to hear the right things too, but more than that, I want him to take a bit of time and make sure he gets it right. So, we agree about the interview being neither here nor there, but it`s what he does over the next few months that matters. For fans to make any kind of judgements on the man or his abilities after the first post-match interview is just being silly imho.

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    GG, unfortunately it's all about PR and communication. Whether we like it or not, most fans expect the Manager to be communicating with them through the post match interview.

    They don't need detailed analyses of what's gone wrong. They do want to hear that 'aspects of that performance were unacceptable' and that 'changes will be made'. CC must know that he can't field those same players in those same starting positions again, so he would have been safe to say that.

    It also sends a strong signal to the dressing-room that players should expect there to be changes when performances have been poor. No names, no pack-drill; but the Manager is not content with what he has seen. Shape up or expect to find yourself on the bench or left out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BEEJ View Post
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    GG, unfortunately it's all about PR and communication. Whether we like it or not, most fans expect the Manager to be communicating with them through the post match interview.

    They don't need detailed analyses of what's gone wrong. They do want to hear that 'aspects of that performance were unacceptable' and that 'changes will be made'. CC must know that he can't field those same players in those same starting positions again, so he would have been safe to say that.

    It also sends a strong signal to the dressing-room that players should expect there to be changes when performances have been poor. No names, no pack-drill; but the Manager is not content with what he has seen. Shape up or expect to find yourself on the bench or left out.

    why would he need to do this via the media though ? He spoke with them for quite a while after the game so i'm sure he would have let them have his thoughts and will do so at training etc

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