Did anyone see Shaun Ryder on the Xtra Factor about two mins ago
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12-12-2010 09:13 PM #181
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12-12-2010 09:41 PM #182This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
He can barely hold a tune and was flat half a dozen times tonight.
He'll sell nothing - Rebecca, Cher and OD will though. IMHO
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12-12-2010 11:31 PM #184This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Was a case of voting .... did anyone ???
We did at the very end ...
Voted for Rebecca - but Matt was superb as well and won - so am happy either way
Simon has a deal in the bag for One Direction anyway
Roll oan Christmas
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13-12-2010 12:29 AM #185
Matt was below average during the weekend while Rebecca has been superb over the last 10 weeks or so.
Can't wait for Becky to release her first album. She's like Hibs. Full of class.
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13-12-2010 08:20 AM #186
Sincerely hope a last minute campaign appears for Biffy Clyro's version to be number 1.
He absolutely destroyed it
Really can't wait until they cancel this pollution of the airwaves - the amount of sub-standard "music artists" it produces, and the songs they butcher en route to becoming a "star" is perplexing at best...Madness, as you know, is a lot like gravity. All it takes is a little push.
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13-12-2010 08:52 AM #187This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I'd also argue that despite the "Sub-standard music artists", there have been some successes that have come from the show ie Leona Lewis and Alexandra Burke (Who have both done well, I believe, in America also) ito name 2.
Not having a go at you personally mate
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13-12-2010 09:21 AM #188This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I hear these butchered efforts when they make their way into the mainstream radio stations etc, and folk have it on at work. In the past x amount of years, I've heard these people destroy songs by REM, Snow Patrol, Leonard Cohen and now Biffy Clyro. It says to me that Simon Cowell must actually either a) have a decent taste in music or b) must really enjoy torturing those of us who do.
But you're right - having a life which gets me away from the TV makes it easy enough to ignoreMadness, as you know, is a lot like gravity. All it takes is a little push.
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13-12-2010 09:36 AM #189This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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13-12-2010 09:59 AM #190This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
These drones are mutilating good songs with the vocal prowess of a glorified karaoke champion down the local. I accept there are one or two vocally impressive acts to have been discovered (as Houch notes above, in Lewis and Burke), but they're the exception rather than the rule.Madness, as you know, is a lot like gravity. All it takes is a little push.
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13-12-2010 11:19 AM #191This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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13-12-2010 11:26 AM #192This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show QuoteMadness, as you know, is a lot like gravity. All it takes is a little push.
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13-12-2010 11:30 AM #194
I tried to watch X Factor this series just to see what all the fuss was about. Wagner kept me tuning in far longer than i thought i would last but after he went, my viewing stopped.
I actually quite liked Matt at first but as the weeks went on his voice seemed to get much worse as opposed to better. The 'humble' act also started to get on my nerves as it became clear that underneath the quiet, self depricating exterior there was actually quite an arrogant guy who struck me as being a bit of a d*** to be honest.
The constant over the top praise of mediocre performances also started to do my head in. Cher got to the live shows through a combination of a pretty good first audition, a lot of wailing, bog standard rapping in a mockney accent and stealing lyrics from other people and claiming them as her own. Yet every week she was hailed as some kind of musical saviour. I'm sure she will do well because she will appeal to a market who don't want real urban music but want to think they are listening to something 'different'.
Overall i just found the show dull, the 'anomosity' between the judges was tiresome, the performance were generally average, the performers were generally hidden in amongst an over the top stage show with little substance ( perhaps to hide the fact that actual talent was at a premium). I can understand why people like the show but it's not for me and i think my brief flirtation with X factor is well and truly over.
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13-12-2010 11:43 AM #195This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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13-12-2010 12:14 PM #196This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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13-12-2010 02:07 PM #197This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Why does an artist have to write his own songes to be considered worthy?
Why is getting your talent recognised via a massive audition process - because that is basically what it is - any less valid than sending in a demo tape and getting discovered that way?
Why do people sneer at talented people getting a break? Matt Cardle is a very good singer, so is Rebecca, and so were a good few of the others. Did you hear Will.I.Am? Its not like he can hold a note really is it, but he's musically acceptable somehow?
And frankly, who cares if it is manipulated. It's a TV show, and ultimately, every year, the finalists have been people who can sing. I dont begrudge them a minute of that.
If you dont like the version of the Biffy Clyro song, fine. I thought it was ok myself, but you dont have to buy it, remember.
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13-12-2010 02:21 PM #198This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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13-12-2010 04:02 PM #199This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
It's not about "being discovered via an audition process" - if were a panel of musicians/producers/label artists or anyone who has experience in the music industry, I'd be inclined to agree with your point, but people (a home based audience) decide who is successful and who is not. By all accounts, the best act (the band who were knocked out last week?) didn't even make the final.
Will.I.Am is musically acceptable as a producer and a writer (I'm not personally a fan), having worked with some of the biggest names in the industry. He doesn't have a great voice, but he can write and perform music, edit music, arrange music and produce successful albums.
This guy will release one album and disappear of the face of the Earth no doubt, just in time for another one to come along next Christmas.
Whatever became of the lad who got pummeled by the Rage campaign last year?Madness, as you know, is a lot like gravity. All it takes is a little push.
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13-12-2010 04:04 PM #200This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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13-12-2010 04:36 PM #201This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show QuoteMadness, as you know, is a lot like gravity. All it takes is a little push.
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13-12-2010 05:58 PM #202This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I agree with that, up to a point. I was playing devil's advocate.... slightly. However, I was also responding to the point made that those who write their own music are more worthy than those who don't. Everyone (including those I mentioned) has to start somewhere, and that usually means doing other people's songs.
Steve van Zandt, Springsteen's guitarist and one of my musical heroes, reckons that all bands need to get out there and play....and play other's stuff, to start with, to enable them to find their own voice. That's not, of course, what the X factor types do, but they still should be given respect and time to find their own way.
And then practice "do you want fries with that, sir?"
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13-12-2010 10:17 PM #203This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Lots of songwriters and composers cant sing a note. If they write a song for someone else, who is deviating from the artistic purity you demand?
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By all accounts he's paid his dues (as I suspect you would term it) by gigging in pubs and clubs, but that doesnt matter really. Good luck to him.Last edited by Twa Cairpets; 13-12-2010 at 10:20 PM.
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13-12-2010 11:09 PM #205This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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14-12-2010 03:58 PM #206This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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I didn't say it is purely judged on the quality of the contestants, but at the end of the show, the singers with the good voices tend to be the ones who get voted for, and the Wagners of this world (who I agree are of minimal talent) sink back to where they come from having had their 15 minutes.
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14-12-2010 07:28 PM #207This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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15-12-2010 08:23 AM #208This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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You're criticism of Matt Cardle is based on one song which you don't like. Do a google of some of his other performances, and you will see that the lad can really deliver a tune. You might not like what he sings, but he can sing, and to a very very high standard.
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15-12-2010 08:38 AM #209This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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