Will losing to St Johnstone or Kilmarnock get Yogi the sack?

[Diclonius]

Does anyone think the board will act if we lose either of these games?

[easty]

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Does anyone think the board will act if we lose either of these games?

We wont lose them...(shock horror a bit of optimism on Hibs.net)

[silverhibee]

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Does anyone think the board will act if we lose either of these games?

If wee lose this weekend, i hope the board get rid of him this weekend, give a new manager the Killie game.

[banarc7062]

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does anyone think the board will act if we lose either of these games?

no !!!!

[BoltonHibee]

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Does anyone think the board will act if we lose either of these games?

Nope.

I think most Boards would have sacked Yogi by now, this Board do not have the bottle.

You can only assume he is here for the long haul. Fingers crossed he can guide us out of Div 1

[Sir David Gray]

If we lose to St Johnstone he might be sacked. If he's still around for the Kilmarnock match and we lose that as well, I would expect him to be sacked after that game.

[Dashing Bob S]

Impossible to say. Only RP and perhaps some other members of the board will know this. The board are business people with a perspective on these things. If results improve he'll stay, if they don't he'll go. It's as simple as that. I'm sure they have a notional date by which results will have to improve, and if they haven't by that time, then he'll go, it's a simple as that.

Only they know the answer.

There seems little doubt he's in a crisis right now.

Three options:

1) he's not up to it and his employment here ends,

2) he learns from his mistakes and comes back stronger, we go from strength-to-strength.

I'd take either of those two, and would prefer No 2. What I don't want is:

3) he lucks out and results turn round for a while and he gets a reprieve, before the same problems quickly re-emerge.

[sparkiehibs]

If he hasnt been sacked after the celtic game (where we dropped to 10th at one point, drew with ICT and Hamilton, lost to St Mirren and Kilmarnock and are already out of a cup. Also we were beaten by both of the Old Firm), then what difference will losing st johnstone and kilmarnock, who the board will see as being better than ICT, hamilton and ST Mirren, do towards changing their minds.

[Craig_in_Prague]

If we lose 5-1 like we did last time in Perth, then yes, I'd imagine he'll be gone.

but if we play quite well, show as good effort as last week, and even lose in a tight game, wouldn't see him sacked IMO.
St J are a very decent outfit whom also need to pick up there game, so it's a very tough match.

i know it's a points business, but if the performances are upped, sooner or later we'll get wins.
Too many good players not to.

[CmoantheHibs]

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Nope.

I think most Boards would have sacked Yogi by now, this Board do not have the bottle.

You can only assume he is here for the long haul. Fingers crossed he can guide us out of Div 1

I think most boards have had fewer managers to replace than ours over the last few years.I dont think it about bottle.Unless you are on about the Hibs.net board which judging by posts would have had him ousted yonks ago.

[Littlest Hobo]

For me it's about progress, not just about the result on the day!

Unfortunately it doesn't work that way and I can honestly say that if we lose to St Johnstone I think he could be gone by Mon morning.

It's up to the team he's put together to get their "finger oot" and go out and play as if it's their last game! Because it just might be!

Time for the players to show how much it means to them.

[CmoantheHibs]

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Impossible to say. Only RP and perhaps some other members of the board will know this. The board are business people with a perspective on these things. If results improve he'll stay, if they don't he'll go. It's as simple as that. I'm sure they have a notional date by which results will have to improve, and if they haven't by that time, then he'll go, it's a simple as that.

Only they know the answer.

There seems little doubt he's in a crisis right now.

Three options:

1) he's not up to it and his employment here ends,

2) he learns from his mistakes and comes back stronger, we go from strength-to-strength.

I'd take either of those two, and would prefer No 2. What I don't want is:

3) he lucks out and results turn round for a while and he gets a reprieve, before the same problems quickly re-emerge.

This would be my option too but it appears many Hibbies would rather see us lose and go for no 1(judging on some of the posts Ive read).

[Dr Jimmy]

If we lose to St Johnstone and St Mirren get a draw at Motherwell, we could be joint bottom of the league!
Surely the board will see that the team is in free fall and will act.............but then again it is the Hibs board we are talking about.

[silverhibee]

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If we lose 5-1 like we did last time in Perth, then yes, I'd imagine he'll be gone.

but if we play quite well, show as good effort as last week, and even lose in a tight game, wouldn't see him sacked IMO.
St J are a very decent outfit whom also need to pick up there game, so it's a very tough match.

i know it's a points business, but if the performances are upped, sooner or later we'll get wins.
Too many good players not to.

Saturday was never a tight game, Hibs had a spell of about 15mins in the second half where possession was maybe good, but wee hardy had celtc on the back foot at any real time, they never looked like they were going to lose the game.
If there was anything to take out of the celtc game, apart from Deeks goal, it would be that Yogi should play the same team against St. Johnstone this weekend.

[Andy74]

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Does anyone think the board will act if we lose either of these games?

No, we are on a poor run of form but none of the results are all that out of the ordinary on their own.

Our final placing last year does count, despite the poor end to the season. That just means we had a geat start which has to be credited to him. If you are going to claim that as luck then you have to accept the bad luck we've had this year. 7 months of good luck is a bit unusual.

I would not expect the Hibs board to sack a manager beacuse we have been missing too many chances. If that continued for quite some time, and that has to be this season only, then they'd have to look at it.

New season, new signings, some key injuries and a sale of a top striker, that will all get him some leeway for weeks or months to come yet unless we have some truly horrific things like getting horsed off wee teams at home, not just failing to beat them in games you dominated.

[Vini1875]

It's not down to bottle. The board must still believe that things can be turned around. Although our league position at the minute is poor we are hardly far behind third, 5 points, which in this league is easy to make up. I doubt the board will make a move until christmas time, unless we suddenly get a lot worse and find ourselves more and more adrift at the bottom of the league.

[Westie1875]

If we lose to St Johnstone this weekend and he doesn't get the sack does anyone want to have a guess at what the attendance for the Killie game will be?

[Sir David Gray]

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If we lose to St Johnstone this weekend and he doesn't get the sack does anyone want to have a guess at what the attendance for the Killie game will be?

We'll be struggling to break the 10,000 mark IMO.

[BT58]

We've played 6 games in the league, and won 1 game
Played 2 games in europe, and won none
Played one in the cup, and won nothing
We had a load of friendlies, which if my memory
is correct we won 25%
so if we forget last season as the happy clappers
Want us to do and base the teams results from July
/august, it's not great reading,, ok a new team needs
bedding in,, but can you say honestly that you've seen this
team getting better????
If we lose against st Johnstone, then YES he should go
Use the international break to get a new man in
Do we carry on and play the rest of the teams and accept
a loss,, but wait a minute,, the team are playing better for 20 minutes
GREAT STUFF,,,,,,,,,,,,NOT

[Littlest Hobo]

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We've played 6 games in the league, and won 1 game
Played 2 games in europe, and won none
Played one in the cup, and won nothing
We had a load of friendlies, which if my memory
is correct we won 25%
so if we forget last season as the happy clappers
Want us to do and base the teams results from July
/august, it's not great reading,, ok a new team needs
bedding in,, but can you say honestly that you've seen this
team getting better????
If we lose against st Johnstone, then YES he should go
Use the international break to get a new man in
Do we carry on and play the rest of the teams and accept
a loss,, but wait a minute,, the team are playing better for 20 minutes
GREAT STUFF,,,,,,,,,,,,NOT

That's what I'll watching out for this weekend. I'd like to see improvement, otherwise people will quite rightly be asking for his resignation.

[blackpoolhibs]

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No, we are on a poor run of form but none of the results are all that out of the ordinary on their own.

Our final placing last year does count, despite the poor end to the season. That just means we had a geat start which has to be credited to him. If you are going to claim that as luck then you have to accept the bad luck we've had this year. 7 months of good luck is a bit unusual.

I would not expect the Hibs board to sack a manager beacuse we have been missing too many chances. If that continued for quite some time, and that has to be this season only, then they'd have to look at it.

New season, new signings, some key injuries and a sale of a top striker, that will all get him some leeway for weeks or months to come yet unless we have some truly horrific things like getting horsed off wee teams at home, not just failing to beat them in games you dominated.

I like to think we had a good end to the season. We actually slipped down to 5th at one stage, but recovered to get that 4th place that secured Europe.

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Nope.

I think most Boards would have sacked Yogi by now, this Board do not have the bottle.

You can only assume he is here for the long haul. Fingers crossed he can guide us out of Div 1

I'm sure that under Hughes we wouldn't be long in Division One.

Unfortunately, the next question is whether he gets us back up into the SPL, or takes us down to Division Two....

I'm not prtepared to take that risk.

HE'S GOT TO GO.

[Just Jimmy]

he should already be gone. Hes gash, nothings improved, and most things have got a hell of a lot worse.

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he should already be gone. Hes gash, nothings improved, and most things have got a hell of a lot worse.

Amen, brother.

You're singing my song.

And what's more - they aren't GOING to get any better while he's around.

[BoltonHibee]

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I think most boards have had fewer managers to replace than ours over the last few years.I dont think it about bottle.Unless you are on about the Hibs.net board which judging by posts would have had him ousted yonks ago.

Probably comes for making the correct appointments in the first place, unlike ours in recent times!

[GreenPJ]

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No, we are on a poor run of form but none of the results are all that out of the ordinary on their own.

Our final placing last year does count, despite the poor end to the season. That just means we had a geat start which has to be credited to him. If you are going to claim that as luck then you have to accept the bad luck we've had this year. 7 months of good luck is a bit unusual.

I would not expect the Hibs board to sack a manager beacuse we have been missing too many chances. If that continued for quite some time, and that has to be this season only, then they'd have to look at it.

New season, new signings, some key injuries and a sale of a top striker, that will all get him some leeway for weeks or months to come yet unless we have some truly horrific things like getting horsed off wee teams at home, not just failing to beat them in games you dominated.

If 7 months of good luck is a bit unusual what is 10 months of 'bad' luck? I don't think you can look at results in isolation you have to look at the run and the trend and not only are we not getting results we are not playing well. I can't remember a game in the last 10 months where we have dominated a game for more than 20 mins.

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If 7 months of good luck is a bit unusual what is 10 months of 'bad' luck? I don't think you can look at results in isolation you have to look at the run and the trend and not only are we not getting results we are not playing well. I can't remember a game in the last 10 months where we have dominated a game for more than 20 mins.

Even when we were winning, this time last year, we weren't exactly controlling the games, far less dominating them.


It isn't about luck. It's about management and tactics, or the lack of them.

[The_Todd]

Most fans on Hibs.net may well want Yogi emptied, but I can almost guarantee that if the board do so this weekende they'll be accused of a knee-jerk reaction.

[Andy74]

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If 7 months of good luck is a bit unusual what is 10 months of 'bad' luck? I don't think you can look at results in isolation you have to look at the run and the trend and not only are we not getting results we are not playing well. I can't remember a game in the last 10 months where we have dominated a game for more than 20 mins.

10 months? Have I woken up in mid December today?

Mid February was when we started to go down the way. That's 7 months since then and we didn't play from mid May to mid July so 5 months really as against 7 of good results.

I think we actually played okay the last few games of last season and we have not been that bad this either the St mirren game apart.

[Ed De Gramo]

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Nope.

I think most Boards would have sacked Yogi by now, this Board do not have the bottle.

You can only assume he is here for the long haul. Fingers crossed he can guide us out of Div 1