Smoking poll

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Do you think Hibs should let us smokers out at half time for a smoke and keep everybody happy ?


I say yes, as it's so easy to keep everybody happy, just open one door and put one steward at the gates coming into the ground. would stop all the non smokers breathing our smoke in the toilets etc..


Simples

[Woody70x2]

No harm done... YES.

[MacBean]

Cant be hard to control, 3 stewards tops?
If it keeps my fellow hibees happy im in favour of it

[wazoo1875]

Should be easy enough for a couple of stewards to handle ,
It's a YES from me !

[Holmesdale Hibs]

Who voted no and why? Can't see any reason for not allowing it.

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Who voted no and why? Can't see any reason for not allowing it.

Calumhibee 1, col 02, siralbert kidd, slick shoes, spudster.

maybe they will tell us why?

[degenerated]

the precedent was set at the Rangers game when it worked without any problems.

[bod]

no,just do without till the games finished like everybody else who's at the game

[degenerated]

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no,just do without till the games finished like everybody else who's at the game

they dont though do they. i'm always reading complaints on here about people smoking in the toilets. which isn't fair on others.

here's an opportunity for the club to ensure that doesn't happen in the east, surely that's a positive thing

[Phil MaGlass]

Why cant they just not wait, I have to wait for the boozer and dont get let out for a halftime beer. To steward this would also incurr costs (maybe not much) and mibbe Im just being a twonk here but, Im a non smoker and there is nothing worse than a smoker who has just been for a quick smoke sitting next to you and reeking of smoke, I actually find this worse than smoking belive it or not. Also the more places that have a ban on smoking is better for the health of the nation, we have the worst heart disease and cancer in Europe, anything that can be done to stop folk smoking is good in my book.
Mind you Im just a grumpy old guy.
Oh aye for some reason or another, smoking in bars doesnae bother me???
Unless it is really really bad.

[degenerated]

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Why cant they just not wait, I have to wait for the boozer and dont get let out for a halftime beer. To steward this would also incurr costs (maybe not much) and mibbe Im just being a twonk here but, Im a non smoker and there is nothing worse than a smoker who has just been for a quick smoke sitting next to you and reeking of smoke, I actually find this worse than smoking belive it or not. Also the more places that have a ban on smoking is better for the health of the nation, we have the worst heart disease and cancer in Europe, anything that can be done to stop folk smoking is good in my book.
Mind you Im just a grumpy old guy.
Oh aye for some reason or another, smoking in bars doesnae bother me???
Unless it is really really bad.

you are that concerned about the health of the nation you use the example of not being allowed out to get a pint.

if that's the case i'm sure you'll join me in campaigning for a ban on junk food like pies in the stadium and behind the goals to stop selling beer. both of those are a bigger problem in scotland than smoking - i'm sure you'll agree.

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you are that concerned about the health of the nation you use the example of not being allowed out to get a pint.

if that's the case i'm sure you'll join me in campaigning for a ban on junk food like pies in the stadium and behind the goals to stop selling beer. both of those are a bigger problem in scotland than smoking - i'm sure you'll agree.

Well said, after all they let smokers outside in corprate areas

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Why cant they just not wait, I have to wait for the boozer and dont get let out for a halftime beer. To steward this would also incurr costs (maybe not much) and mibbe Im just being a twonk here but, Im a non smoker and there is nothing worse than a smoker who has just been for a quick smoke sitting next to you and reeking of smoke, I actually find this worse than smoking belive it or not. Also the more places that have a ban on smoking is better for the health of the nation, we have the worst heart disease and cancer in Europe, anything that can be done to stop folk smoking is good in my book.
Mind you Im just a grumpy old guy.
Oh aye for some reason or another, smoking in bars doesnae bother me???
Unless it is really really bad.

Or maybe someone stinking of drink hurling abuse at players with foul language

[Disc O'Dave]

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Or maybe someone stinking of drink hurling abuse at players with foul language

Well technically, if they are stinking of drink they shouldn't be admitted to the ground in the first place...being "under the influence of alcohol". I appreciate they could simply have doused themselves in a couple of pints of Best, and not actually drank it, but you get my drift.

That's a rule that doesn't apply to smokers incidentally - see it's not all doom and gloom for the chimneys

[Disc O'Dave]

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you are that concerned about the health of the nation you use the example of not being allowed out to get a pint.

Rumour has it that having the odd pint might actually be good for you....it's the other 10 that are the problem......

[Twa Cairpets]

No.

Reasons:

1) Opening for half time becomes 5 minutes either side of half time so another fag can be had. Up and down in seats either side of the 2nd half ko - its annoying enough at full time is it not?
2) Even if it is only 3 more stewards it is 3 more stewards who, frankly, dont need to be paid.
3) Its good for your health

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But people are allowed up and down to go to the toilet or to get a pie. Should a stop be put to that.



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[CropleyWasGod]

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But people are allowed up and down to go to the toilet or to get a pie. Should a stop be put to that.



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They're not illegal, though. However, given the contents of the pies....

[marinello59]

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Do you think Hibs should let us smokers out at half time for a smoke and keep everybody happy ?


I say yes, as it's so easy to keep everybody happy, just open one door and put one steward at the gates coming into the ground. would stop all the non smokers breathing our smoke in the toilets etc..


Simples

Yes from me, if a low cost system can be put in place.
Saying that the smokers will just do it anyway isn't going to win round the don't knows though is it?

[degenerated]

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They're not illegal, though. However, given the contents of the pies....

Smoking tobacco in an outdoor environment that isnt enclosed isn't illegal either is it, or I've definitely missed something




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[NORTHERNHIBBY]

Perhaps we should get a smoking section, just like the singing section. Entrance of course would be set at £25 to cover the cost of fire extinguishers and brushes and shovels for the extra stewards required to sweep up all the fag dowps.

[Jack]

Although the back of the East is open its still classed as being within the stadium. There is no smoking allowed within the stadium.

A way round this might be leasing that area to me for a peppercorn rent and me turning it into something not part of the stadium – like a smoking area for example

I wonder how other stadia are allowed an official smoking area????

[delbert]

I say yes, as long as the smelly so and sos nip home and change their reeking clothes before coming back in to sit beside the non smokers.

[CropleyWasGod]

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Smoking tobacco in an outdoor environment that isnt enclosed isn't illegal either is it, or I've definitely missed something




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Cross purposes.... note to self, try not to think about Hibs.net at work...

[MSK]

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I say yes, as long as the smelly so and sos nip home and change their reeking clothes before coming back in to sit beside the non smokers.

Behave yersel ..

[stuart]

its a great idea i was there on sat werent going to open the doors but more people complained aboot it the did an the usual 2 police 5 stewards to get us bk in what a joke would rather go outside than in the toilets what people did when they were getting everyone bk in side the bottom gates were closed so dont no why there are not alowing it
common sence hibs be fair we spend good money at the club and the rubbish that we watched in the 1st half we needed a smoke

[.Sean.]

I voted yes, simply because i'm fed up going to the toilets at half-time only to see a smog of smoke coming from the cubicles thanks to selfish smokers. The bogs are rank when they're full of your second-hand smoke

[basehibby]

YES - it does no harm so why not?

Possible objections: Contravenes the club's overall stance on smoking - well TBH I don't aprove of this preachy holier than thou health nazi policy. Fair enough to ban smoking in enclosed spaces in the interest of public health - or to ban it from the squad of professional athletes on whose performance it could impinge. But to ban your paying customers from enjoying a smoke in circumstances which will harm nobody but (possibly) themselves is a load of sanctimonious drivel IMO.

Extra stewarding costs: Considering how many stewards must be kept busy at HT patrolling the toilets and the stairwells, I don't think this argument holds any water - in fact the stewards' HT workload would probably be reduced and many could be diverted back to more conventional stewarding activities such as harrassing paying customers for standing up and singing at a football match

[Arch Stanton]

If they are going to stop people going out for a fag then they should do the decent thing and stop people smoking in the toilets.

But they won't - they can't - it just isn't under their control. And they should stop pretending that ER is a non-smoking stadium, because it isn't.

[Green_one]

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Although the back of the East is open its still classed as being within the stadium. There is no smoking allowed within the stadium.

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So basically the smokers would have to walk all the way down to the road, have their fag and walk all the way back? Seems impractical to me, both in terms of time and stewarding (you would have to steward the entire area behind the stands - not a 3 man job).

There are lots of things you cannot do within the stadium and this is one of them. Can we have a poll next for how many want standing, smoking and drinking all brought back, just as a study in futility.